Time  Nick            Message
01:10 lisac           cheapie, https://github.com/cheapie/chat6/pull/7
08:02 Raven262        Hello nerzhul
08:13 tenplus1        hi folks
08:15 Raven262        Hello tenplus1
08:15 tenplus1        hi raven
08:25 Shara           Morning everyone
08:25 tenplus1        hi Shara
08:25 Shara           Hi Ten :)
08:25 tenplus1        :P
08:29 Raven262        Hello Shara
08:30 Shara           Hi there Raven
08:50 * Shara         sighs at item descriptions again
08:51 Shara           The more I look at them, the more tiny problems I see, and I doubt anyone but me cares :P
08:53 tenplus1        which one's ?
08:54 Shara           I'll have a PR for it in a moment :P
08:54 tenplus1        :PP every pr helps
08:57 Shara           https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1795
08:57 Shara           It is very silly :P
08:58 tenplus1        keeping it consistent is good
08:59 Shara           I spent long enough poking small details like this professionally that I can't not see them these days
08:59 Shara           The thing that is really bugging me is the use of "block" in descriptions.
08:59 tenplus1        for which nodes
08:59 Shara           I mean, Brick block, diamond block and so on... but then ice is just ice
08:59 tenplus1        good point
09:00 Shara           I mean, technically we could stick "Block" after any full node
09:00 Shara           And have "Acacia Wood Planks Block" and so on
09:00 tenplus1        but that would be kinda overkill :P ehehe
09:01 Shara           Yea. I'd prefer to go the other way and delete a bunch of "Block"s
09:01 Shara           It makes sense to call it that if it was an item you specifically crafted into a block. Like the metal and stone ones
09:02 tenplus1        yeah
09:03 Shara           But snow, obsidian, diamond and mese can be found that way
09:03 Shara           And bricks are bricks.
09:03 * Shara         shrugs
09:04 tenplus1        I was reading about real life obsidian and how it can be used to make the sharpest knives
09:05 tenplus1        maybe it's use as a ssword would be a good thing, even better than diamond at times for sharpness but not speed
09:05 Raven262        Stone block > Stone tile
09:05 Raven262        I suggest renaming
09:06 Shara           Raven262: I think block is okay, since they are actually being crafted into one, and they might be used for things other than floors
09:06 Raven262        Tiles can be used for floors, walls and ceilings
09:06 Shara           Tile implies it's a thin slice  to me
09:06 tenplus1        same
09:07 Raven262        ...
09:07 Shara           Yea, but these are not thin slices
09:08 Shara           Why dots?
09:09 * Raven262      is thinking.
09:10 Raven262        There must be a better name than "block"
09:10 Raven262        Almost everything is a block in minetest
09:10 Shara           Yea. That's where my thoughts started
09:11 Shara           But if ice is just "Ice", instea dof "Ice Block", Why can't "Brick Block" just be "Bricks"
09:11 Shara           ?
09:11 Shara           Or even "Brick"
09:11 Raven262        There is "brick block"?
09:12 Raven262        Ice should be renamed to ice block i think
09:12 Raven262        Sice ice itself can take almost any form
09:12 Raven262        ?Since
09:12 Raven262        *since
09:12 Raven262        Yet i don't see how to rename the stone block
09:12 Shara           Eww. I'd much prefer to change Brick Block to Brick.
09:12 Shara           You wouldn't rename it
09:12 Raven262        Brick is one brick
09:13 Shara           Stone Block is Stone that has been crafted into Stone Block.
09:13 tenplus1        true
09:13 Raven262        But stone itself is a block of stone :P
09:13 Shara           Well, I did say Bricks first, but that wouldn't be consistent with any of the other bricks
09:13 Raven262        Clay bricks?
09:13 Shara           The others are all <description> Brick
09:14 Raven262        Well clay brick would do i think
09:14 Shara           Never heard anyone calls bricks that
09:14 Raven262        Me neither
09:14 Raven262        But if we follow that same description + brick, we get that
09:15 Shara           Heh, well, I might make a PR for it after the current one is settled.
09:15 Shara           Unless you feel like doing it
09:15 Shara           But I don't think you can call it Clay Brick
09:15 Raven262        Well i'm not sure either
09:16 Raven262        I would leave this as it is until we get some more opinions
09:16 Shara           I doubt many people care :)
09:17 Raven262        Yea, thats the main problem :/
09:17 Shara           AFK a while anyhow
09:48 tenplus1        hi DS-minetest
09:51 DS-minetest     hi tenplus1
09:58 tenplus1        Protector Redo updated - /protector_replace command has nil checks :P
10:16 tenplus1        hi Fixer
10:49 tenplus1        hi Jordach
10:49 tenplus1        hi lisac
10:53 lisac           Hi tenplus1
10:53 tenplus1        hi cx
10:53 cx384           hi 10+1
10:54 tenplus1        o/
11:06 Krock           hi tenplus1
11:06 tenplus1        hi Krock, hows u
11:06 Krock           just fine :)
11:08 tenplus1        ::p
11:12 Krock           eeks. You've got four eyes
11:13 tenplus1        yeah, bit of a nuclear waste area I live in
11:13 Bobr2           morninh
11:13 tenplus1        hi bob
11:13 Bobr2           how is everyome
11:14 tenplus1        not bad ta, you ?
11:14 Bobr2           good :) prom was awesome
11:14 tenplus1        glad to hear :)
11:14 Bobr2           i gave a girl a cheeky kiss not much but i was happy
11:15 tenplus1        ehehehehe
11:15 tenplus1        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJWB4AYDZAQ
11:16 Bobr2           slow dance and then end i pulled her to me and hugged her and gave her a cheeky kiss on the cheek and i just walked with a grin on my face
11:16 red-001         tenplus1, thats a great description
11:16 tenplus1        hi red, and yeah... it's an interesting show :D
11:17 Bobr2           OH great more errors!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11:17 DS-minetest     wanna see some colored beds? https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/7613443/27508142-5790fbd2-58df-11e7-8cbc-873214470b0f.png
11:18 Bobr2           2017-06-24 10:47:51: ERROR[Main]: mod "creative" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "sfinv"
11:18 Bobr2           -_-
11:18 tenplus1        bob, are you running a custom game ?
11:18 Bobr2           yeah
11:19 tenplus1        hrm, gotta watch your dependencies...
11:19 tenplus1        sfinv has to be included
11:19 Bobr2           ok shall i just put things in to paste bin lol
11:19 tenplus1        DS-minetest: didnt blockmen make a bed mod that uses 1 node per bed and has coloured beds?
11:19 DS-minetest     yeah, but i use param2 for coloring
11:20 tenplus1        ahh nice
11:20 tenplus1        so 1 registered bed and dye to colour :) that I like more
11:20 DS-minetest     (game#1794)
11:21 tenplus1        +1
11:21 Bobr2           https://pastebin.com/fhLc6a72
11:21 DS-minetest     well, i haven't yet added to possibility to color with dye, only at first crafting, so that you don't have to use red wool
11:22 tenplus1        bob, seems you have forgot to add bones and sfinv, those are kinda needed arent they ?
11:23 tenplus1        yeah, white bed by default and dye after :) sounds better
11:23 tenplus1        and no rotation, once placed you gotta pick up and replace... makes life easier
11:23 Bobr2           yeah they are
11:23 Bobr2           tbh i need to just wipe AMHI and rethink it
11:24 DS-minetest     it would be nice if there was something like only horizontal facedir and colored
11:24 tenplus1        :P
11:24 DS-minetest     => only 2 bits for rotating and so, 6 bits for coloring
11:25 tenplus1        I would remove bed rotation entirely and have it for colouring...
11:25 tenplus1        it rotates when placed and that's about it :D
11:26 DS-minetest     ehm, having beds just in one direction would be meh imo
11:26 tenplus1        no no...  it rotates when placed... I mean disable screwdriver rotation
11:26 tenplus1        and have them 1 enlarged node only like doors
11:27 DS-minetest     but for rotating, param2 is needed
11:27 Bobr2           beep beep bots beep beep
11:27 DS-minetest     (if you don't want to add more nodes)
11:27 tenplus1        so how does vanessa do it for the lights ? you can colour those and they rotate ?!?!
11:27 DS-minetest     i think, that uses wallmounted
11:28 tenplus1        crap
11:28 DS-minetest     hm, maybe wallmounted would also work for bed
11:28 * DS-minetest   has never used ikt >_<
11:28 DS-minetest     it*
11:29 Bobr2           hehe when u get last night was realy fun from the girl u kissed must be good XDXDXXXDDXXDDXDXXDDXDXD
11:30 Bobr2           tenplus1 does sinji_ikari ever join here?
11:30 tenplus1        nope... he'll pop onto server to build and do admin stuff, but doesnt bother with forums/channels
11:31 Bobr2           fair enough
11:32 Bobr2           oh wow that server is getting hit hard O-0
11:33 tenplus1        what server ?
11:33 Bobr2           switchpvp pretty sure its getting hit with bots
11:34 tenplus1        eek, that's no good
11:34 Bobr2           might have to lower the count of random players it lets in
11:34 tenplus1        does bot names have numbers at the end?
11:34 Bobr2           eah 3 numbers
11:41 Krock           quick, get a cheater client to beat the bots
11:42 Bobr2           what u mean
11:42 tenplus1        lol, I thnk we ban numbered accounts
11:42 Bobr2           we have it to ban every one in 4
11:47 Bobr2           im so confused how to bring a chanserv in to a channel lol
11:49 Krock           invite it
11:49 Krock           that's at least how it worked on Rizon, I believe
11:49 tenplus1        hrm, gotta think of a new recipe for invisibility potion now that nyan cats arent in game
11:50 Bobr2           red mushroom apple white dye and a glass bottle
11:50 tenplus1        too easy to get
11:50 tenplus1        :P
11:50 Bobr2           what mods do u have
11:51 tenplus1        I need a default game recipe for invisibility potion
11:52 Bobr2           hmm
11:52 tenplus1        normally i'd use nyan cat rainbow block and glass bottle...  since they are kinda rare...  now I need something just as rare
11:52 Bobr2           mese block
11:52 tenplus1        too easy to get
11:53 Bobr2           diamond block
11:53 tenplus1        still easy tog et
11:53 tenplus1        *to get
11:53 Bobr2           hmm
11:54 tenplus1        cya
11:54 tenplus1        oops, wrong window :D
11:54 Bobr2           lol
11:57 Bobr2           beeeepppp
11:57 tenplus1        hrm, how about all 6 saplings, 1 bottle and.... hrm...
11:58 Bobr2           apple
12:00 Bobr2           ofc nano isnt gonna work!
12:02 tenplus1        ??
12:02 Bobr2           its not working my acess to the server its letting me in im in the correct directory and when i do nano dcb its just comming up as a blank nano
12:05 shivajiva       mistyped or non existent filename
12:05 Bobr2           nope
12:05 Bobr2           its typed correctly
12:06 Bobr2           [ "dcb" is a directory ]
12:06 Bobr2           and its just comming up blank like everything else in the mods folde
12:07 shivajiva       wait, you can't open dir with nano, it's a text editor
12:07 tenplus1        hi shiva
12:07 Bobr2           realy?
12:07 shivajiva       Hiya 10+1 :)
12:08 shivajiva       yea nano dcb/somefile.txt will work fine though
12:09 Bobr2           idk lol
12:09 * Bobr2         is listening to old music
12:11 Calinou         hi
12:11 Bobr2           hello Calinou
12:11 Bobr2           o/
12:11 tenplus1        wb fixer
12:12 Krock           Bobr2, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkTTb4IBCNQ
12:12 Krock           !title
12:12 ShadowBot       Krock: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 4KB.
12:12 Bobr2           ok
12:14 Bobr2           urm k
12:22 Bobr2           haha very funny Krock XD
12:24 Krock           it's pseudo-old
12:26 Bobr2           lol
12:31 tenplus1        Invisibility Potion updated to 0.4: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=14846
12:32 Bobr2           cool
12:33 tenplus1        1 of each sapling, red shroom and glass bottle... makes player explore the world more to obtain ingredients :D
12:33 Bobr2           yh like the crysal gilly staff crafting recipie but with leaves
12:33 tenplus1        exactly :)
12:34 tenplus1        nyan cat was rare and caused players to epxlore to find it :D
12:34 tenplus1        hi DI3HARD139
12:35 DI3HARD139      Hello
12:41 tenplus1        hi thomas
12:41 Krock           tenplus1, FYI: updated minetest PR #5762 (line_of_sight) to match the requests
12:41 tenplus1        checking :P
12:41 red-001         hi Thomas
12:41 red-001         dammit 11 ninja'd me
12:41 red-001         grand sure has a bad connection
12:42 red-001         Grandolf, please set up SASL so we don't see 3 lines every time you connect
12:42 tenplus1        wow, thanks Krock :) looks a lot better
12:42 Krock           np
12:42 * tenplus1      hopes it gets in
12:43 * tenplus1      glues Grandolf to floor... stay!
12:44 tenplus1        brb
12:45 shivajiva       hmm banned by the bot lol
12:46 red-001         ty
12:46 shivajiva       hey red :)
12:46 Bobr2           lol
12:46 shivajiva       did you want me for something?
12:46 red-001         oh yeah did you fix that issue with the shop mod?
12:47 red-001         since I finnaly got around to taking a look at that code
12:47 shivajiva       I don't think so
12:47 red-001         and it doesn't handle formspecs well
12:48 shivajiva       it's pretty ugly code overall
12:48 red-001         yeah
12:49 tenplus1        which shop mod ?
12:50 Bobr2           the smart shops
12:50 tenplus1        wait, is there an issue..??? we use those
12:50 shivajiva       I was contemplating creating a shop specifically for creative players with a fixed price list and making the money like bitcoins in a wallet
12:50 Bobr2           tes theres a issue
12:50 red-001         at least it seems to handle inventories correctly
12:50 red-001         ...
12:50 red-001         it uses int's as booleans
12:51 tenplus1        bobr, can you msg me the issue please so i can fix
12:51 red-001         the whole shop could be described as an issue
12:52 shivajiva       lol we use strings like that don't we in settings
13:47 red-001         wb DI3HARD139
13:47 red-001         wb DS-minetest
13:47 red-001         wb tab_auto_complete failure
13:48 tenplus1        ehehe, wb ds
13:49 DS-minetest     thanks
13:50 shivajiva       http://www.tecknet.co.uk/m002-grey.html that's a lot of mouse for £7.49
13:51 tenplus1        dont like wireless mice, prefer a cord :P
13:52 shivajiva       my R.A.T.Z. failed to perform well on Linux, sweet on windows but what use is that!
13:54 shivajiva       I hear you ten but 18 month battery life and no pairing makes it feel like a corded mouse
13:55 tenplus1        hi Megaf
13:55 Megaf           Hello tenplus1
13:56 shivajiva       Megaf: o/
13:56 Megaf           Hi shivajiva :)
13:58 Megaf           I wonder if there's a way to tell which are the oldest active servers of Minetest :)
14:00 tenplus1        hrm, would minetest server list record time/date it was added ?
14:01 Megaf           Kinda
14:01 Megaf           it shows my server as 3.1 Years old
14:01 Megaf           but it is around 5
14:02 tenplus1        wonder how old xanadu is now :DDD
14:03 Megaf           well, 3.1 I think is this last generation of Megaf Server, we are in the series 4.x
14:04 Sokomine        tenplus1: i'm sorry, but xanandu doesn't count. it had to many mapresets
14:04 Megaf           yep
14:04 tenplus1        lol, hi so
14:04 tenplus1        hi Sokomine
14:04 Megaf           I am on the fourth map, hence Megaf Server  4
14:04 tenplus1        Xanadu is mk.3
14:04 Megaf           this one is around 3.1
14:04 Sokomine        vanessaes survival server has good chances of beeing the longest-running with only a short interruption. redcrab was also very good. linuxgaming2 still has the old map and is well maintained. landrush came back up
14:05 Sokomine        megaf: is your old map online again?
14:06 Megaf           Sokomine, Just the fourth map, wich is 3.1 years old
14:06 Megaf           or a bit more actually
14:06 Megaf           but I had two epic servers before, Megaf Server (the first one) and Till It Ends
14:07 Megaf           Till It Ends was quite famous...
14:07 Megaf           back in the day
14:07 Sokomine        hm. didn't i have a house on your map? or was that even older? how is your current server called?
14:07 Megaf           Sokomine, I think you've made a house on every one of my servers
14:07 tenplus1        I remember Clip's server :P
14:07 Sokomine        and oldcoders servers do preserve a lot of older maps
14:08 Sokomine        megaf: that's possible
14:08 Krock           does anyone know where I can find ExeterDad?
14:08 Sokomine        hm, on the forum?
14:08 Bobr2           any one need help with anything
14:08 Krock           on IRC, if possible
14:09 Sokomine        bobr2: i am still looking for textures for rape seed plants. would love to have those as oil source in minetest_game
14:12 Megaf           Folks, can you please check if Megaf Server is on your servers list in minetest?
14:12 tenplus1        MegaF Server v4.0 shows up
14:13 Megaf           Thank you tenplus1
14:15 Sokomine        strange. it doesn't in mine
14:16 Megaf           my server is running a quite old version
14:17 Megaf           It's a configuration I know it's rock solid and reliable, so why change?
14:17 Krock           0.4.14-Megaf lol why?
14:17 tenplus1        heh...
14:17 Krock           nvm
14:17 tenplus1        am using latest dev with no issues, only that damn serialize.h error every week I cant seem to track down
14:17 Krock           Megaf, it's outdated. there's not the sqlite backend for players
14:18 Krock           *now
14:18 Megaf           Krock, I quite like the txt mode
14:18 Megaf           I can easily check what players are doing and use shell script to perform tasks
14:18 Megaf           very flexible
14:23 tenplus1        heh, wait until 0.5.0 is released...  that's gonna force ppl to upgrade
14:24 tenplus1        wb twoelk
14:24 twoelk          hi
14:27 Krock           hi twoelk
14:27 twoelk          o/
14:27 Krock           \o/  /o/
14:27 twoelk          \o
14:27 tenplus1        looks like you're doing exercises :P
14:28 Krock           huh, how come?
14:28 tenplus1        \o\   \o/     /o/
14:28 tenplus1        and repeat :D
14:28 twoelk          an'up an'down - left and right and all over again
14:28 twoelk          pss - maybe a secret sign language
14:29 twoelk          wonder wether the flag alphabet works :-P
14:29 tenplus1        hrm
14:30 tenplus1        can we fit all that in ascii :P
14:42 Megaf           my current desktop :P -> http://i.imgur.com/bCTNHLC.png
14:42 tenplus1        tidy :P
14:44 Megaf           using just a single font for everything
14:44 Megaf           to save memory
14:44 Megaf           so I can run Google Chrome  :P
14:45 tenplus1        ehehehe, what font do you use ?
14:45 Megaf           Liberation Mono
14:46 tenplus1        nice... I use Ubuntu's own font :D
14:46 Megaf           size I'm using is 8 for everything, 9 or 10 here on Hexchat
14:47 tenplus1        Lubuntu in action; http://pre06.deviantart.net/21c9/th/pre/f/2017/029/c/a/bildschirmfoto_vom_2017_01_29_10_28_26_by_hypnoshot-dax4anu.png
14:48 Megaf           yep, LXDE for the win
14:48 Megaf           I'm on LXDE too, if you didnt notice :P
14:48 tenplus1        +1million
14:50 Megaf           I undecorate items
14:50 Megaf           windows
14:50 Megaf           so they use less space
14:51 tenplus1        good idea... i remove buttons except closse
14:56 tenplus1        http://imgur.com/a/mnUg1 my desky
14:56 Raven262        lol
14:57 tenplus1        minimal :D
15:01 Raven262        My desktop on the mint: http://i.imgur.com/kC9mfbs.png
15:01 * twoelk        quickly plugs in an usb stick to download ... er ... something
15:03 tenplus1        lol
15:06 red-001         could someone added ThomasMonroe to the access list?
15:06 tenplus1        I dunno how
15:06 tenplus1        he asked earlier and I asked nrz :PP
15:07 red-001         /cs access #minetest-hub add ThomasMonroe +V
15:08 red-001         try that
15:08 Bobr2           can i be added
15:08 tenplus1        unknown command
15:08 tenplus1        arent you auto-voiced bob?
15:08 red-001         /msg chanserv access #minetest-hub add ThomasMonroe +V
15:08 Bobr2           oh yeah duh soz
15:08 red-001         I guess I assumed that /cs was sort of standard for irc clients
15:09 red-001         /cs is the alias hexchat uses for /msg chanserv
15:10 red-001         wow this channel is already 12 weeks old
15:11 Bobr2           lol
15:15 tenplus1        wb DI3HARD139
15:16 Megaf           Mu Hexchat BTW -> http://i.imgur.com/aI70ZHx.png
15:16 Megaf           My*
15:16 DI3HARD139      ty
15:16 tenplus1        heh.. I use Pidgin
15:17 DI3HARD139      I use Hexchat just so I can spam the itunes plugins
15:17 tenplus1        lol
15:23 Bobr2           well
15:23 Bobr2           wb lisac
15:24 tenplus1        ^
15:24 lisac           Have I missed World War 3 or something?
15:24 DI3HARD139      My HexChat http://picpaste.com/snip_20170624112418-YgGlFl2Y.png
15:24 Bobr2           no
15:24 DI3HARD139      Just sharing cause I can. | Yes you have lisac. The war just ended. We are now rebuilding
15:24 tenplus1        ooh, full screen concentration DI3
15:28 DI3HARD139      Was that or give a Fullscreen Tri-monitor snapshot :P
15:29 tenplus1        Here's an 8k screenshot scaled to HD http://imgur.com/a/mnUg1
15:30 * DI3HARD139    applies his 4k resolution to see that image better
15:30 tenplus1        :PPP
15:32 Krock           8k?!
15:32 DI3HARD139      If only this monitor had a DP. I would try 8k
15:33 DI3HARD139      Ok. I forgot the reason why no one likes 4k without DPI scaling.
15:33 DI3HARD139      too dang small!!!
15:35 benrob0329      DI3HARD139: then apply some DPI scaling :P
15:47 tenplus1        wb storm
15:49 stormchaser3000 thanks and hi
15:56 tenplus1        DI3HARD139 is away to make another movie
16:07 Krock           Universal Pictures    presents     Die Harder - The Minetest Movie
16:07 tenplus1        ooh err... I'd watch that :D
16:08 tenplus1        give hollywood some time and a minecraft movie will appear :)))))
16:26 tenplus1        wow chanserv is slow tonight :)  hi calcul0n
16:27 calcul0n        hello :)
16:28 tenplus1        o/
16:29 Krock           hi calcul0n
16:29 Bobr2           #we will be reborn
16:30 * tenplus1      still wants player heads to rotate in-game...  mroe characteristics
16:31 Sokomine        rotating player heads would be nice
16:32 tenplus1        to see what players are looking at would be a bonus :)
16:32 tenplus1        although the playereffects mod that handles it is laggy as hell
16:40 tenplus1        hi Darcidride
16:47 Darcidride      Hi tenplus1
16:47 Darcidride      and hi everybody :)
16:47 tenplus1        :P
16:48 twoelk          more player animations would add a lot
16:48 * twoelk        is still hoping for a dancimg mod
16:48 tenplus1        if player damage reason gets added then we can scan for many things and can add death anim
16:49 tenplus1        lol, a dance mod could easily be done, jsut need someone to add animations for players
16:49 twoelk          yeah, imagine a wolf biting you and the animation plays being shot
16:51 tenplus1        death reason is a good addition... gotta figure out where to add it to tho :)))
16:53 twoelk          probably need to start with a list  grouping death kinds so it doesn't get too bloated
16:54 tenplus1        in engine fall damage should change player HP with "fall" string...  damage_per_second should have "dps" with node information
16:54 tenplus1        set hp for player or punch should give a string for reason also, and from that on_hp_change can handle anything
16:54 tenplus1        from awards, death messages or special anims/functions
16:54 twoelk          and add drowning
16:55 tenplus1        oh yeah :D
16:55 twoelk          don't know what falling in lava should look loke
16:55 twoelk          -o+i
16:55 tenplus1        "dps" with node info, so you can detect what you died in
16:56 tenplus1        a stream of fire particles.. ahaha
16:57 twoelk          looking at the dead of pompeii most seem to have simply suffucoted
16:57 twoelk          although there are rumors of exploding heads if the boiling went fast enough
16:57 tenplus1        ooh, interesting
16:58 twoelk          most did die very fast though
16:58 tenplus1        in that sorta setting you wouldnt wanna linger
16:58 twoelk          and miss the sight?
16:59 benrob0329      I like my brains and sanity in tact thank you very much
16:59 tenplus1        lol
17:00 twoelk          it did seem some where trapped in relative safety for quite a while and got killed instantly by the last wave
17:00 benrob0329      Fun fact: alsa works fine if you set the default card
17:02 * twoelk        just read a paper on how exactly the house of julius polibio was destroyed
17:04 tenplus1        https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/emjPFJGVW.png aww
17:06 twoelk          should add that as ingame deco picture
17:07 tenplus1        Q. in Mobs Redo, should I disable drops for children so you have to wait until they grow for items ???
17:11 twoelk          sounds reasonable
17:11 twoelk          except if they grow extremely slowly
17:12 twoelk          wait - no easter lamb dish?
17:13 tenplus1        lol
17:13 tenplus1        stops the mob procreation and instant killing for items
17:13 tenplus1        although I found an issue with baby chicks, they kinda suffocate after being born
17:14 twoelk          are you breeding them in cramped factories?
17:14 tenplus1        not I... lol...
17:15 tenplus1        suffocation is enabled by default, but shrinking the mob model to give a child messes with settings and causes it to think it's walking in the node below... not good:P
17:16 twoelk          a friend of mine managed to drown quite a few chicks in rl because the water giving mechanism got blocked by stupid chicks
17:16 tenplus1        eek, that's nasty
17:17 twoelk          yeah, nasty chicks drowning all the others
17:17 benrob0329      twoelk: Easter lamb? What form of unholy combination is this??
17:17 benrob0329      :PP
17:18 twoelk          well christianity is based on canibalism anyways
17:19 benrob0329      ...not quite..... *backs away from crazy person*
17:19 tenplus1        wbs niper
17:19 twoelk          that is if you follow the words of some interpretations as to what happens at the last supper
17:19 benrob0329      Well yeah, crazy people
17:19 benrob0329      It was meant figuratively
17:20 twoelk          this is my body, this is my blood blablah
17:20 twoelk          ask a catholic priest about the wonder that happens each time
17:20 benrob0329      Im boy Catholic :-)
17:21 benrob0329      Im not even Christian, for that matter
17:21 benrob0329      *not
17:21 twoelk          well I'm not catholic as well but some sort of christian I guess
17:23 twoelk          If you would stripe all the wonders from christ; I would say he still had enough cool ideas to form a religion but who would have listened then
17:24 tenplus1        o.O
17:24 benrob0329      Im somwhere in between Christianity and Judaism
17:24 Calinou         I BELIEVE IN NOTCH
17:24 tenplus1        lololol
17:24 benrob0329      Seems legit
17:24 Calinou         hi :P
17:24 benrob0329      Hi Cal
17:25 benrob0329      I gave Pulseaudio the boot last night
17:25 benrob0329      Was very much done dealing with it
17:26 tenplus1        MObs Redo API updated
17:26 benrob0329      Cool, what was added?
17:26 twoelk          easter lambs?
17:26 benrob0329      *Passover
17:35 tenplus1        fixed y_level position for environment checking.. when baby I forgot to 1/2 bottom colllisionbox :PP also baby mobs dont drop items until grown
17:35 tenplus1        Xanadu updated with mob api and invis potion recipe changes
17:38 tenplus1        wb ds
17:38 DS-minetest     thanks 11
17:38 red-001         so may ninja's
17:41 tenplus1        o.O I think that I may have my work cut out for me in adding hp change reasons to all engine functions :P aha
17:41 red-001         http://www.foddy.net/Ninjas.html
17:42 red-001         tenplus1, you do
17:42 tenplus1        what it... every country in the world has there own high trained ninja's but we only know about Japan's cause they're shit
17:47 tenplus1        hrm... https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/b32f36bf34c9a3208b2c0261e0f541453b4459b6/src/clientenvironment.cpp#L548 this seems to handle player damage, so adding a table or string with a reason shouldnt be too hard
17:48 DS-minetest     aww, the game is hard
17:49 red-001         tenplus1, prepare for network packets
17:50 red-001         and guessing
17:50 red-001         a lot of guessing
17:51 tenplus1        wb nrz
17:51 nerzhul         ty
18:21 garywhite       hi 11
18:22 tenplus1        hi gary
18:34 Sokomine        hi. can someone say my name for a test?
18:34 rubenwardy      Heisenberg
18:34 rubenwardy      oh wait no, Sokomine
18:34 tenplus1        Sokomine
18:34 Sokomine        thanks. hm. barely visible...
18:35 rubenwardy      https://media.giphy.com/media/WQJ2DORvilpEk/giphy.gif
18:35 tenplus1        lol
18:35 tenplus1        wb cx
18:36 cx384           hi
18:51 tenplus1        hi fussel
18:52 IhrFussel       Hi guys, do any of you have any ideas regarding a "Tutorial Island"? There is a level system on my server and I created an island where players below level 10 HAVE TO remain cause I only want players to explore the whole map who learned the core mechanics of the server/game
18:54 IhrFussel       But I need to make sure the island isn't boring and that isn't easy
18:54 tenplus1        punch wood forest :P
18:56 IhrFussel       So far I got a few chests with charity stuff in them, greenland to build on and a mine ... the players have unlimited resources cause every 20 secs there will fall a certain item from the sky on the island..it's either cobble, wood or potatoes
18:56 tenplus1        tatties!!!!
19:11 Shara           IhrFussel: Now you're making me want to check out your server :P
19:16 IhrFussel       Shara, haha...it's far from ideal I'd say, but I try to make it more challenging now...before I gave many players full creative and the challenge level was below 0
19:18 Shara           I'm reluctant to play new servers these days, because 'if' I decide to build, I just don't have time to find things. But I am interested in this levelling system you have
19:21 IhrFussel       The level system has been overhauled recently...before the cap was 35 and the level only meant "activity" ... now the cap is 50 and the level increases damage you do to monsters for example
19:21 * twoelk        tries to remember what level he has
19:22 IhrFussel       twoelk, 21 with 580 EXP left :P ... but since I rebalanced the level system you will skip a few levels as soon as you join next time
19:23 twoelk          guess my far from spawn building has triggered a little settlement - it became a little full the last time I was on - might need to relocate :-P
19:24 twoelk          sigh - so many servers - so little time
19:24 IhrFussel       Building directly at the spawn isn't allowed anymore..there are 3 roads where players can build their houses
19:25 Shara           twoelk: I can only sympathise
19:25 Shara           IhrFussel: what do you gain for levels, other than being able to leave this island?
19:26 twoelk          well nowadays I usually start building some 2km from spawn - lessons I learned
19:27 IhrFussel       Shara, I'm still thinking about more ways to implement the player level...right now you just become stronger as you level up and at level 20 you're allowed certain advanced items
19:27 twoelk          ah the bucket levels :-P
19:29 twoelk          Adventuretest had a system of gaining efficiency at crafting - so you got more output the more skilled you are
19:29 IhrFussel       Nah you can buy buckets as soon as you leave the TI and find a shop that sells them..or you can craft them too...the replacer tool is one example
19:30 twoelk          I rather thought of water or lava placing
19:30 Sokomine        Shara: you might like IhrFussels server. the time to get to semi-creative mode is very short
19:30 IhrFussel       I made lava harmless so I have no worries when a player walks around with lava buckets :P
19:32 twoelk          I recently tried several skyblock servers - quite interesting - I had to restart once because I used all coal for torches instead of crafting ore
19:32 tenplus1        nite folks :)
19:32 Sokomine        twoelk: that's bad :-( who will see your buildings there? at least make it a requirement for server owners to supply travelnets :-)
19:32 IhrFussel       Sokomine, are you refering to the CP-system? I had to remove it because players abused it too much
19:32 twoelk          yoe get fly after level 3 or so
19:33 Sokomine        twoelk: hmm. IhrFussels server and adventuretest are way diffrent in that regard. can't really be compared. there's not much building going on in adventuretest, while fighting against mobs on IhrFussels server is an option for those that are currently out of ideas for their building projects
19:34 IhrFussel       You can still request items by clicking them in the creative inventory, but I encourage my players now to use shops
19:34 Sokomine        IhrFussel: oh. yes, that's what i meant. i have a bag full of steelblocks for shopping later on. was very useful for getting materials
19:35 Sokomine        i think fly was given for building a house? with not excactly high requirements to it
19:35 Sokomine        hm. this font here might actually be readable...
19:36 * Sokomine      is trying to get a font that can be read quick and easily and be used for programming
19:36 Shara           IhrFussel: I think I will take a look around in a little while :)
19:36 IhrFussel       Yes you get fly after you built something *remarkable* like a house...I don't see the fly priv as admin priv because many players are trapped in extremely deep holes and the priv helps them
19:37 Sokomine        it's a quick way to get it :-) there's also a lot of entertainment for players in general
19:38 IhrFussel       I think that's to be expect with 150+ mods xP
19:38 IhrFussel       expected*
19:38 Shara           I'm probably not even capable of building without fly :P
19:39 IhrFussel       But I make sure that all mods I add are compatible with each other...I do not blindly add every mod I see
19:39 IhrFussel       The server started with 20 mods in May 2016 ... it's come a looong way since
19:40 Sokomine        i've taken a look at the mineclone2 anarchy server, but...that concept is very far from what i personally like. some textures tempted me to build a house with them. but then i had to get something to drink irl, and when i came back after less than a minute, a mob had spawned inside my mountain, killed me - and most of the building materials where gone
19:40 IhrFussel       Sokomine, something my server provides too: the LDP command that teleports you to your bones after you died
19:41 Shara           IhrFussel: Yup, I like when people add mods with care, and pay attention to what works well together.
19:42 Sokomine        that anarchy server is very diffrent. i was mostly visiting it out of curiosity. it just doesn't have what i want :-(. no protection, no locked chests, very hard death, mobs that destroy buidlings...
19:42 Shara           I always have people asking me to add this mod or that mod... But they don't understand the balance :)
19:42 IhrFussel       Shara, I hope you won't get overwhelmed by the ~ 120 commands
19:42 Shara           Hehehe
19:42 Sokomine        Shara: one of the fates of server owners :-) there'll always be player asking for more
19:42 Shara           Sokomine: Yup.
19:42 Shara           And now and then, just to be different, someone will ask for less.
19:43 Sokomine        oh. that happens as well?
19:43 Sokomine        as long as it's not a mobile client it ought to not matter much
19:43 Shara           I have some unusual players.
19:43 Shara           I've had requests to make things harder...
19:44 IhrFussel       I have added a command for mod requests/ideas ... nowadays I think I probably shouldn't have done that...
19:44 Sokomine        IhrFussel: :-) you could set a bot to auto-reply to it....
19:45 Shara           Hmm, nice, you have my glass mod :)
19:45 IhrFussel       Like seriously...some of the ideas are so stupid and silly...I don't even understand how they came up with that
19:45 Shara           Hmm, not the most recent version though
19:46 IhrFussel       Shara, talking to me?
19:46 Shara           Yes.
19:46 IhrFussel       abriglass?
19:46 Shara           Yup, that's one of mine :)
19:47 IhrFussel       It's very good...just a bummer that the frosted glass doesn't work with the saw it seems xP
19:47 IhrFussel       It results in invisible glass
19:47 Shara           Hmm, never tried it in the saw
19:47 Shara           The mod as it is doesn't support it, but I have a seperate mod I use to add things to the saw
19:47 IhrFussel       Maybe some alpha/transform effect going on in the definition?
19:48 Shara           Hmm, not sure. Might test it out though.
19:48 Shara           Because I don't see why it wouldn't work
19:49 IhrFussel       Sokomine, trying to connect with phone/tablet or why the timeouts? :o
19:49 Sokomine        hm: Setting [mono_fallback_font_path] not found.   is what the newest (current git) mt version crashes with when connecting to the server
19:49 IhrFussel       Oh you were testing xP
19:51 Sokomine        upgraded to debian stretch. most of the upgrade went fine, but i lost the settings for rxvt somehow. the font in most terminal windows is almost unreadable for me. perhaps that error is related to that
19:53 Shara           I am not entirely sure what I'm meant to do on this island
19:56 IhrFussel       Shara, the message isn't clear enough I guess...you're supposed to take stuff from the chests behind you then go downstairs and build or mine
19:56 Shara           It seems liekm pretty much everything is protected, so all I can do is wait for something to spawn to kill?
19:56 Shara           like*
19:56 Shara           Well, what can I mine?
19:56 Shara           I took stuff, went down... but what looks like the mine is protected
19:57 IhrFussel       The end of the tunnel shouldn't be protected..one sec
19:57 Shara           I got teleported back when I tried to dig in the one place I found that would let me
19:57 Shara           Yup, and again
19:58 IhrFussel       You need to dig where it ends^^
19:58 Shara           I did
19:58 Shara           It just teleports me back to the start
19:59 IhrFussel       That's right...I forgot that the island definition ends there, good catch
20:00 Shara           A sa real new player, I'd have quit by now :P
20:00 Shara           As*
20:00 Shara           And almost everywhere I try and do anything, all that happens is I lose interact for a really long time
20:02 IhrFussel       You can mine down the ladder now
20:03 Sokomine        hm. that droidsansmono font i seem to have been using seems to have disappeared. perhaps it went to unfree or so...
20:03 Shara           Hmm
20:03 Shara           Does the tutorial island reset itself?
20:04 IhrFussel       Not sure how I can automate it, never tried it
20:05 Shara           It's just that I don't know how long it would last with lots of new people digging it up for experience
20:07 IhrFussel       Well the Tutorial Island idea was just a flash thought yesterday...so all you see was realized in a day ... I'm still thinking about how I can improve it
20:09 Shara           I like the general idea
20:11 IhrFussel       An idea can always be awesome..the hard part is the realization xD
20:11 Shara           Yea. I did have an idea a long time ago, about something like this, but for players who misbehaved... Make them serve some kind of sentence/do some task before they could rejoin normal play
20:12 IhrFussel       That's kinda why I asked for more ideas regarding the island haha
20:12 Shara           I think it needs more explanation
20:12 IhrFussel       Maybe I should make the island larger and remove the upper part
20:13 * Sokomine      borrows a diamond sword from a pvp server and hits some fonts very hard
20:13 Shara           Also consider surrounding the underground part with nodes that a player can't break... so they won't accidentally mine out and get teleported
20:14 Shara           Because it gets really frustrating to find yourself back at the start and to need to walk down all the stairs again
20:14 IhrFussel       I kinda changed my mind while building it...at first I wanted the island to have 2 levels like now..upper level for explanations and the lower level for building/mining...but not sure if that's a good approach
20:14 Shara           You could even do the whole thing underground, maybe with a teleporter to the surface that can only be used at level 10 +
20:15 Shara           So by the time anyone would dig to the surface they'd pass level 10 anyway
20:16 twoelk          there are some mazes out there and there even was some maze mods, maybe add some of those or a nice parcour (that sorts out the mobile users)
20:17 twoelk          you could put the island in a protected lava lake :-P
20:19 IhrFussel       I think I will just remove the upper part and rework the lower greenlands...and make the island larger in general and I will surround the island with something players can't break
20:21 IhrFussel       Also I'm not sure how much sense it makes to place signs with instructions about the server/game ... would enough players even read those?
20:21 twoelk          you could reduce chat advice to >read the signs<
20:22 IhrFussel       Many players don't even understand English that's a big problem
20:22 twoelk          again that would sort out tiny screens :-D
20:22 twoelk          I guess we need a pictograms mod
20:23 twoelk          I did have pictures explaining my map but the media load was too high
20:25 * Shara         always reads the signs :P
20:26 IhrFussel       Well with the signs_lib mod at least more players will notice/read the text on them I guess haha
20:35 Sokomine        how can players on that island be visited?
20:37 Sokomine        twoelk: pictograms about server rules could be useful. most are very reasonable after all. but how to express that in pictograms would be tricky
20:39 twoelk          Sokomine maybe you can adjust one of your crafting schools for the IhrFussel -server:-)
20:40 * Sokomine      feels like a fly...crashing against huge obsidian glass fields :-)
20:40 Sokomine        twoelk: those crafting schools where usually for servers with few or wastly diffrent receipes. i'm afraid ihrfussels server has too many mods for that
20:43 IhrFussel       Sokomine, you can tp to it by saying "tutorial island"
20:51 twoelk          Sokomine, the Skyblock derver after I gained the fly priv; guess what I built ;-)     http://i.imgur.com/PyHMlE1.png
21:09 Sokomine        twoelk: nice! but also small to see on that picture
21:09 twoelk          http://i.imgur.com/8RWEWvP.jpg from the inside ;-)
21:11 Sokomine        looks very nice, twoelk :-)
21:11 twoelk          actually I built two. that big dirt pyramid on the left is also from me
21:12 Sokomine        which skyblock server is it?
21:12 twoelk          TPS-Skylands
21:13 Sokomine        ah. don't think i've ever been there. would love to see one that uses the additional levels i added to cornernotes original skyblock
21:13 Sokomine        but nowadays they're all those islands and no spheres anymore on the skyblock servers
21:13 twoelk          it has only three levels, so I searched for one with four
21:14 twoelk          shivajiva's has four iirc
21:15 twoelk          I think I built with my nephew on that one
21:16 twoelk          which reminds me; the skyblock mod needs translation, as my nephew can't read english yet it prooved difficult to solve for him
21:16 twoelk          haven't looked into that yet
21:17 twoelk          I never did find a skyblock server with your additions
21:21 Sokomine        oh :-( hm. maybe i ought to host one...but my connection is too slow for that i guess
21:31 twoelk          sneakpreview of some work on my roman map http://imgur.com/a/ViDnH
22:28 IhrFussel       Sokomine, what's the "bad" texture in question again? I will replace it with the older one
22:38 Sokomine        IhrFussel: er. i think it was desert stone. it used to look like a brick texture. the new one isn't bad either - but doesn't fit for my building
22:38 Sokomine        twoelk: looks very nice :-) hope you'll be able to finish it soon
22:47 IhrFussel       The HUD implementation seems to be flawed...if the player loses the connection for a moment WHILE the server sends a hud remove call the client will not remove it anymore...or at least that's what I'm experiencing right now
22:53 Fixer           *,...,0
23:03 Fixer           laptop manufacturers who still produce 1366*768 shit in 2017 must have brain cancer, all of them
23:04 Fixer           in 1997 it was fine resolution, but not in 2017
23:04 Fixer           craponomy
23:31 * Sokomine      thinks that the font is better now
23:49 IhrFussel       Sokomine, desert cobble stone??
23:51 IhrFussel       The one that kinda looks like flowers with a bit imagination  xP