Time Nick Message 00:23 octacian Are LBMs suitable to add particles to nodes? 00:24 bigfoot547 Never used 'em 00:24 octacian huh 00:24 octacian It's unclear 00:24 octacian Seems as though LBMs are either called once, period (even after a restart), or every time the block is loaded 00:27 octacian Works, but when a new player comes into the area where the original player caused a particlespawner to be added, the new player doesn't see any particles 00:27 octacian Any thoughts? 00:28 octacian I haven't defined a player option in the particlespawner definition 00:28 bigfoot547 Was the areal left unloaded by the first player? 00:28 octacian No 00:28 bigfoot547 Maybe that's why 00:29 octacian I thought that once the particlespawner was added though the particles would show for all players 00:29 octacian The original player already loaded the area causing the particlespawner to be added, so I'd expect that when the new player came into the area the particlespawner would be displayed to them 00:29 bigfoot547 Regression where not all particles are rendered? 00:30 octacian I dunno 00:30 octacian Doesn't seem to be anything in my code though 00:30 octacian VanessaE: Maybe you could give some input on how particles should be added to nodes? 00:30 octacian I mean, you've got the chimney in home decor, so... :P 00:31 octacian I wonder if this is a bug related to the commit that prevented particles from being sent to clients far away 00:31 bigfoot547 Yes 00:31 bigfoot547 That's what I said 00:32 red-001 hey does anyone know where the subgame spec is documented? 00:33 octacian It seems as though particles are only displayed if both clients were there when the particlespawner was added 00:33 octacian Well, I'mma commit my code and open an issue on github 07:29 tenplus1 hi folks 08:11 tenplus1 wb red 08:11 shivajiva Good morning ten 08:12 tenplus1 hi shiva 08:14 tenplus1 Mobs Redo updated - animations have loop setting, explosion damage provides 'pos' for knockback :) 08:30 tenplus1 hi Megaf 08:35 tenplus1 wb Dargod 08:36 shivajiva nice touch tenplus :) 08:37 tenplus1 the death animation repeats so it fixes that problem... also if you make a vehicle mob that you can ride then taking off and landing animations work without looping also :D 08:38 shivajiva heh you have been busy 08:38 tenplus1 gotta fix ALLLLL the bugs :P ehehehe 08:40 shivajiva hehehe 08:40 tenplus1 hows you ? 08:42 shivajiva always tired by Friday, but I got gcc 6 installed so I'm back in business, being unable to compile latest was quite annoying :) 08:42 tenplus1 what ya compling ? 08:43 shivajiva minetest, after jun 10 it needs a reasonably recent gcc 08:43 tenplus1 ah yes... the launchpad link I get my daily builds from no longer work before ubu 16.04 :P 08:44 shivajiva my dev machine is on mint 17.3 so it needed beating into shape 08:45 tenplus1 ehe... am waiting for ubu 17.10 alpha and will switch to that 08:45 tenplus1 I like testing new releases 08:46 shivajiva I've noticed lol 08:49 shivajiva I kinda slowed down due to the setup I need taking time to re-establish, apps, shortcuts, file extensions means it's less than trivial but way better than the amount of work to shift a windows setup ;) 08:49 tenplus1 *shudder* winblows 08:52 shivajiva yea dotnet updates take so much time never mind the bloated VS and al the other crap 08:52 tenplus1 dontnet is a lazy ass way of doing things 08:52 tenplus1 and the fact it installs them ALL is annoying, same with vs c++ updates 08:56 tenplus1 thankfully my other desktop is running Wine 2.0.1 with Steam to get to all my games :) works perfectly 08:57 shivajiva I was chatting to a MS employee a few years ago who totally agreed they lost the plot by bloating VS, always nice to see the staff knowing better than the management 08:58 tenplus1 yeah, windows is totally screwed now... 09:00 shivajiva as a reasonably large contributor to linux you just know they will end up sat in it, they ain't that stupid 09:00 tenplus1 it still surprises me that driver packages are huge... a wifi driver was over 180mb to download 09:02 shivajiva wow are they hiding parts of the internet in their driver packages :) 09:02 tenplus1 lol... in this day and age where compilers can optimize end results nothing should be THAT huge anymore without reason 09:04 shivajiva the reason is to make tasks take the same amount of time for the end user so there is little difference in any of their OS offerings despite the tech advancements 09:05 tenplus1 scary... gimmie linux anyday, at least everyone works hard to optimize things and fix issues fast 09:06 shivajiva ^ 09:08 shivajiva https://www.quora.com/Why-wont-the-left-let-Trump-bring-the-coal-mining-jobs-back/answer/Franklin-Veaux?share=44f380f7&srid=Z6DG 09:08 tenplus1 lolol 09:09 shivajiva :D 09:10 shivajiva I like reality checks 09:10 tenplus1 indeed, plain talk is the best way... that's if it doesnt offend the pc brigade :PPP 09:12 shivajiva it's their job to be offended, cant stop em 09:13 tenplus1 good point 09:20 shivajiva https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-of-the-funniest-got-fired-stories/answer/Rajeev-Garg-1?srid=hRZoX 09:21 tenplus1 lol pizza 09:43 Calinou hi 09:43 tenplus1 hi Cal 09:43 Calinou shivajiva: VS 2017 is a smaller download/install than VS 2015, by the way 09:44 Calinou here, it says it's 14 GB, VS 2015 was more like 18-20 GB for the same feature set 09:44 Calinou it also starts up much faster, in 3 seconds you can see the welcome screen 09:44 tenplus1 VS??? 09:44 Calinou Visual Studio 09:44 tenplus1 ohh 09:44 Calinou also, you can install the C++ compiler without the IDE, which should only require 5-6 GB 09:45 tenplus1 14gb is still kinda large 09:56 Bobr2 hi 09:56 tenplus1 hi bob 09:56 Bobr2 how are u today ten 09:56 tenplus1 goox thx, you ? 09:57 Bobr2 good thanks exited got prom tonight 09:57 tenplus1 nice one... :) hope you have fun 09:57 Bobr2 thanks i will do :) 09:58 * Bobr2 decided not to go to after prom 09:58 tenplus1 go to where ? 09:59 Bobr2 after prom prom is organised by school after prom is organised by the students 10:00 tenplus1 oh right... heh... I never had a prom at my school when i was there, dont know what really goes on apart from what i see in movies :P 10:00 shivajiva same here 10:00 Bobr2 lets just say after prom you dont feel safe in usualy 10:00 tenplus1 eek, not good 10:05 Calinou prom is a thing I've never been in and I don't regret it 10:05 Calinou :D 10:07 tenplus1 :P 10:13 Bobr2 lol 10:17 tenplus1 hi DS-minetest 10:19 DS-minetest hi 10:35 tenplus1 hi Fixer 10:37 tenplus1 wb Raven262 10:37 Raven262 Thanks tenplus1 10:49 Bobr2 gg 10:49 tenplus1 hh 10:49 Bobr2 doesnt every comment have potential to cause drama 10:50 tenplus1 depends on how you interprit the comment I suppose 10:50 Raven262 if you are creative enough... 10:52 tenplus1 a good example was the "Hugh Mungous" video :))))))))) 10:55 tenplus1 did you see that one ? 10:56 Raven262 I didn't 10:57 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I <-- original video 10:57 tenplus1 worth a watch... a simple name sparks something horrid 10:58 Raven262 Am I sure that i want to open that link? xD 10:59 tenplus1 watch the 1st 2 mins, that's all you need for the example ;D 11:03 Raven262 lol 11:11 tenplus1 hi lisac, hi NathanS21 11:11 NathanS21 hi tenplus1 11:11 tenplus1 duude, did you try the bag of winds yet ??? 11:12 NathanS21 if you're asking me, no 11:12 NathanS21 I haven't been doing much with Minetest this week, have had a lot of other stuff going on. 11:12 tenplus1 lol, the inventory bags mod you made a video of has "bag on winds" which is amazing 11:12 * DS-minetest did 11:13 NathanS21 Ya, I guess there is a handful of bags that I didn't see because I didn't have some optional dependencies. 11:14 tenplus1 aww, I checked out the mod after watching your vide and saw a few extra things, although flying around with the bag of winds was like iron man trying his new gloves for the 1st time :D 11:14 NathanS21 :) 11:16 DS-minetest afaik, the bag of winds sets the player gravity to a negative value. interesting is, that the first half nodelength is slower 11:16 tenplus1 yeah, sets - gravity so you float up :P was fun 11:17 NathanS21 I'm going to have to check this out. 11:21 tenplus1 I think the only issue with bag of winds would be 3d_armor mod would override it 11:23 lisac Hi tenplus1 11:23 tenplus1 o/ 11:24 * Bobr2 internet is being realy weird 11:25 tenplus1 whats happening ? 11:25 Bobr2 being slow like unusualy slow 11:26 tenplus1 Q. what windows or linux version ? 11:26 Bobr2 ubuntu mate but its being slow on my phone as well never gets slow if it has any problems it eiither just says its working or it doesnt work at all 11:28 tenplus1 hrm, reset router/modem, turn off phone for a few mins and boot into ubuntu's usb flash-drive and do a speed check 11:28 tenplus1 will let you know if a rogue app or background process is stealing bandwidth 11:28 Bobr2 ok its working now fine for some reason 11:28 Bobr2 i swear some one is messing with me 11:28 tenplus1 hehehe, prolly an update to app store or repo list 11:29 tenplus1 happens :D 11:29 NathanS21 nmap will find anybody on the network. 11:29 Bobr2 nah no update wasnt going on 11:29 tenplus1 depending on settings it runs in background, will load new repo list in background etc. that's why I turn it off 11:29 tenplus1 same with google play store, does it in background 11:29 NathanS21 maybe your smart light bulbs were downloading a system update. :P 11:30 tenplus1 lol 11:30 tenplus1 had to add that new feature... ON, OFF, BLINK!! 11:31 * Bobr2 is just running around exited like a chicken 11:33 * Bobr2 will go to prom around seven and take his laptop with him leave it at his freinds and finish around 11 and then will go back to freinds house with freind and then do some work on AMHI till about three am lol 11:34 tenplus1 lol, got your night planned :P 11:34 Bobr2 i have 11:34 * Bobr2 is getting to many of these errors 11:34 Bobr2 2017-06-23 13:30:34: ERROR[Server]: mysql_auth: record_login(pvp) failed: affected row count is 4, expected 1 11:38 tenplus1 hi zeno 11:38 Bobr2 wb zeno 11:38 Zeno` hi 11:39 Bobr2 tenplus1 any idea what that error means? would be greatful 11:40 tenplus1 looks like it's giving a number of rows/items affected by whatever is causing it... what you running ? 11:41 Bobr2 idk i dont host the server i only run it 11:42 tenplus1 hi fussel 11:42 Bobr2 wb IhrFussel 11:43 IhrFussel Hello there^^ 11:43 tenplus1 back laters :P need to buy foody :))) 11:43 Bobr2 ok 11:44 Bobr2 how are you today IhrFussel 11:49 IhrFussel I'm alright and you? 12:15 Bobr2 im alright thanks 12:25 red-001 looks like elitebnc is rebooting the server I'm using 12:42 IhrFussel Bobr2, ihrfussels-server.tk/player_light.zip < should work but untested 12:44 tenplus1 hi folks 12:50 IhrFussel WB tenplus1 ... also Bobr2 you need to specify a nodename in the code that you want to use as light 12:50 tenplus1 o/ thx fussel 12:50 so_this_broke I guess I'm still offline 12:52 tenplus1 hi so_this_broke 13:04 Raven262 Calinou, can we get tnt.wad on your server? 13:05 Calinou I can change the IWAD, but not right now 13:05 Raven262 I got tired of playing doom2 all over and over again xD 13:05 Raven262 Sure 13:05 Calinou going to deliver my internship report at university 13:05 Raven262 Btw, what are you hosting the server on? 13:05 * tenplus1 steals Calinou's report and changes all of the words 'the' to 'wibble' 13:05 Calinou a VPS 13:05 Raven262 Oh nice. 13:07 Calinou heh, funny one... the server is down now because I tried to restart it 13:07 Calinou and I don't have libjpeg62, which the server requires (!) 13:08 Calinou done, it works 13:08 Calinou server should be running tnt.wad now 13:08 Calinou *** MAP01: system control *** 13:08 so_this_broke oh great they just broke stuff while rebooting 13:08 Raven262 Thanks, Calinou :D 13:11 Raven262 I never understood why is there a cyberdemon on map01 of tnt 13:12 Raven262 Like no one has weapons to defeat him on the first map :P 13:13 tenplus1 did you find the secret room containint the poo-on-a-stick 13:34 tenplus1 wn nrz 13:34 tenplus1 *wb 13:34 tenplus1 hi Jordach 13:35 Jordach hello tenplus1 13:44 tenplus1 hi LazyJ 13:45 LazyJ Howdy tenplus1 ;) 13:53 tenplus1 wb red 13:58 Raven262 Nope tenplus1 i found no such room 13:58 Raven262 Oo 13:58 tenplus1 :P 13:58 Raven262 We managed to get to the end of the first tier i think 13:58 Raven262 me, hijenavuk and some random players that periodicaly joined 13:59 Raven262 Actually it seems we only got tho the map08 :/ 13:59 Raven262 *to 14:30 tenplus1 hi DI3HARD139 14:30 DI3HARD139 Hello 14:47 Raven262 playing doom these days http://i.imgur.com/rshR9KY.png 14:47 tenplus1 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6ZLN4WOS1Ts/hqdefault.jpg 14:48 Raven262 xD 14:48 tenplus1 gotta love bad lip syncing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9t-slLl30E 15:26 tenplus1 hi cx384 15:30 cx384 hello tenplus1 15:33 * twoelk dares a peek while waiting for hometown to restart in debug modus 15:34 tenplus1 hi twoelk 15:34 twoelk o/ 15:34 tenplus1 :P 15:34 cx384 \o/ 15:35 tenplus1 heh 15:35 Raven262 Could hqx texture scaling be implemented in minetest? 15:54 paramat seems better to use that when creating a texture pack than include that in MT 16:01 tenplus1 o.O we have snow stairs ??? isnt it too soft to make stairs 16:01 tenplus1 hi paramat 16:01 tenplus1 wb Fixer 16:04 IhrFussel tenplus1, have you ever been hit with a snowball? I wouldn't call that "soft" 16:04 tenplus1 that's compacted snow 16:04 tenplus1 snow/snowblock is just fallen snow 16:04 tenplus1 I'd make it into compressed snow before making it into stairs 16:05 IhrFussel You have to compact it in order to form it I'd say 16:05 IhrFussel or compress* 16:08 cx384 snow can't smelt, right? 16:09 DS-minetest afaik it can 16:09 twoelk I remember RL snowstairs :-D they are fun when the sun comes out 16:09 tenplus1 :P 16:10 DS-minetest heh, the only problem, if you step on it, it breaks 16:11 twoelk rather you break your bones 16:11 cx384 Yeah. 16:11 twoelk snow can be quite hard and durable if compacted and used right 16:13 cx384 twoelk, do you want to live in a snow house? 16:14 twoelk I built many a snow hut as kid, it's fun and can be quite warm 16:14 IhrFussel twoelk, that's why I added snowblocks to the saw 16:14 Raven262 Right, paramat, I have seen that gzdoom uses it, but it seems to impact the fps a lot :/ 16:14 twoelk I'd rather live near a southsea lagoon though 16:15 cx384 thats comprehensible 16:30 Fixer compacted snow is very good 16:31 tenplus1 imo a recipe should be added to compact snow and use that as stairs, but its too late now 16:40 paramat you can walk on snowblock, that's solid enough 16:41 paramat Raven262 hqx would not run in-game, that would kill performance 16:42 Raven262 Gzddom seems to handle it quite fine 16:43 paramat it doesn't seem needed, low res textures are mean to be low res, not smoothed 16:43 tenplus1 smoothed low-res textures look crappy anyhoo 16:44 Raven262 Yes you are right, gzdoom also uses much larger textures :/ 16:44 Raven262 But why do we have bilinear and trilinear filtering? 16:45 tenplus1 good question 16:46 paramat actually, the performance hit probably isn't huge 16:48 paramat so perhaps we already have the feature with our filters? 16:49 benrob0329 Filtering is necessary for high resolution textures 16:49 tenplus1 does using backface culling give a noticable increase ? 16:50 paramat i'm actually not sure if our filters act on enlarged textures, never use them 16:51 Raven262 For magnifying computer graphics with low resolution and/or few colors (usually from 2 to 256 colors), better results can be achieved by hqx or other pixel art scaling algorithms. These produce sharp edges and maintain high level of detail. 16:51 Raven262 hqx^ 16:51 paramat .. thought it was more for distant detail 16:51 Raven262 The difference between the bilinear/trilinear and hqx is really noticeable 16:52 paramat i think we actually want to see the pixels of close textures, that's what MT is about, pixel art 16:53 octacian I'm going to be gone till Sunday afternoon, may pop in sometime over the weekend, but unlikely. Cya'll then! :D 16:53 tenplus1 have fun octacian 16:53 octacian heh, Thanks :) 16:53 Raven262 And why do we have bilinear and trilinear filters then, paramat? 16:54 Raven262 hqx preserves the texture better than those 16:54 Fixer http://www.sysopt.com/showthread.php?35953-3DMark-99-Max-results 16:54 Fixer 18 years ago....... 16:55 paramat our filters seem to be for dealing with distant detail? 16:55 paramat if not, hqx is nice and sharp yes 16:56 Raven262 More impact on distant detail has antialiasing 16:56 tenplus1 Stairs Redo updated... Added backface_culling, ice/snow/new sandstone stairs and tidied code 16:56 Raven262 I didn't notice much impact from the trilinear/bilinear filter :/ 16:57 tenplus1 same... the only thing it does for me is blur lowres textures... 16:57 tenplus1 nothing else really changes 16:57 Fixer I only use aniso 17:07 red-001 shivajiva, remeber that issue with someone stealing items? 17:39 tenplus1 from a locked chest? 17:42 red-001 oh it was with toggling infinate items in a shop right? 17:42 tenplus1 eek 17:52 Calinou happy belated 21st birthday, Quake 17:52 Calinou here's the QuakeWorld launch video, this happened before I was born: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXw6BkZ-gdY 17:52 Calinou :DF 17:52 Calinou :D* 17:52 tenplus1 heh, Quake was a fun game 17:52 Calinou you can see Carmack caressing a cat in the video 17:52 Calinou :D 17:57 * benrob0329 is glad to finally have a chill-ish day 17:57 tenplus1 :) 17:57 benrob0329 Schedule has been absolutely insane lately 17:58 tenplus1 some chill time is always needed :) 17:59 benrob0329 The ish comes from the fact that there are still some things to do today 18:04 Fixer Calinou: have not even heared about QuiakeWorld, and I played Quake I/II like in 1998 18:32 tenplus1 wb ssieb 18:34 tenplus1 wb lisac 18:35 lisac thanks tenplus1 18:35 lisac I was napping 18:36 Shara Hello all 18:37 tenplus1 hi shara 18:38 tenplus1 hows things 18:40 tenplus1 wb nrz 18:40 benrob0329 Technic is dying :'-( 18:41 tenplus1 aw 18:41 benrob0329 It breaks more and more with every release, and no alternative exists 18:41 tenplus1 it will need to be rewritten 18:44 Shara tenplus1: Not bad, just not really awake :P 18:44 Shara Trying to plan what to do with the weekend 18:44 tenplus1 relaxx and eat pizza :D 18:45 tenplus1 wb paramat 18:45 tenplus1 Shara: I dunno if you're using it but Stairs Redo had an update :) 18:45 Shara I probably am 18:45 Shara Hi paramat 18:46 lisac paramat, why do you think current description position is better than my proposed one? 18:46 tenplus1 added some new default stairs, it use sbackface_culling which is suposed to speed up drawing of stairs 18:46 Shara lisac: I agree with paramat completely, sorry. 18:46 tenplus1 description positoin ? 18:46 Raven262 Hello Shara 18:46 Shara Hi Raven262 18:47 lisac tenplus1, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5978 18:47 lisac Shara, I see. But I don't think anyone told me why 18:47 Shara Well, why do you prefer it different from current? 18:47 lisac Because it doesn't move with the cursor :P 18:47 lisac I think it makes it look cleaner 18:48 Shara I simply wouldn't like it. 18:48 lisac :( 18:48 lisac Do you think the current position is perfect? 18:48 tenplus1 keep it as it is... 18:48 Shara Define perfect? 18:49 Shara But I prefer to go with don't fix what isn't broken on this kind of thing 18:49 Shara People can have a dozen different preferences for what might be a slightly nicer position, but you're unlikely to get lots of people to agree on one 18:49 lisac I did propose having it as a setting 18:49 tenplus1 position it to pointer, nice n simple 18:49 Shara And no one has complained about the current position, but I suspect there'll be complaints if it changes. 18:50 Raven262 paramat, would it be much of a work to make a test version for the hqx? Just thinking that we should see how it looks in minetest, I'm not too sure that 16x16 graphics are going to be scaled as well as 64x64 and 128x128 ones that i've seen. 18:50 Shara I'd be fine with it as an options, if default stays the same, but that's up to the devs. 18:50 Shara option* 18:52 tenplus1 how's the map layering feature coming along paramat? 18:56 paramat hi lisac, i explained why in the PR, 'lower right at the base of the pointer and after the stack number' looks better to me than 'below' 18:58 paramat Raven262 i look forward to you coding hqx :] it's likely no-one else will 18:58 Raven262 I'm no coder, sorry xD 18:58 paramat hehe 19:02 benrob0329 Steam sales are back 19:02 tenplus1 wb LazyJ 19:02 tenplus1 ooh steam sales, anything good ? 19:02 benrob0329 Im tempted to buy The Long Dark and make a series 19:03 paramat onety-one, i'm experimenting, so far i can make multiple layers but every layer has the same terrain character (as if an extension of other levels) 19:03 paramat .. not very interesting 19:04 tenplus1 wouldnt setting different height biomes change this character? 19:05 paramat well partially 19:05 paramat what's needed is terrain shape character to alter per-level, difficult work 19:05 tenplus1 at least it generates layers now with biomes and decoration :) 19:05 tenplus1 for me that's good... cant wait to try it out 19:06 LazyJ Thanks, tenplus1 ;) 19:13 paramat well i have multiple mapgens i'm experimenting with, another approach to realms may interest me more, whatever i do, MT's world space will be used 19:15 tenplus1 yay... *eager* 19:17 Calinou benrob0329: I bought a Star Wars game pack, with Jedi Academy/Outcast 19:17 Calinou aka. "Quake 3 Lightsaber Edition" 19:17 Calinou :P 19:17 Calinou Jedi Academy at least uses a modified Quake 3 engine 19:17 tenplus1 heh kewl... last game set I bought was Humble Indie Bundle 19:18 Calinou I don't have much storage space available right now :( 19:18 Calinou only a few GB 19:18 Calinou my old 500 GB might be dead 19:18 Calinou so I can't put it in my desktop 19:19 Calinou need to test it in an external enclosure 19:19 Calinou too bad, it cost €140 back then, today it's €150 or more 19:19 Calinou (SSD prices went up, they were *cheaper* in 2015) 19:19 tenplus1 went up ? no way... ebuyer.com has a sale on and they are quite cheap 19:19 Fixer steel beasts is bad fucker, tried a lot of ways, still won't run past XP 19:20 tenplus1 doesnt it work in compatibility mode 19:27 Calinou also, there's a new highest discount on Quake on Steam, and the bundle is cheap too, http://store.steampowered.com/app/2310/QUAKE/ 19:28 Calinou for those who haven't bought it yet :D 19:33 tenplus1 hi stormchaser3000 20:00 Raven262 Calinou, Heretic & Hexen series for 2.50€ also sounds nice :) 20:00 Calinou yeah, I bought these on the last sale 20:00 Raven262 Really? 20:00 Calinou they're ok but I don't enjoy magic-themed games that much 20:00 Calinou yeah, they were in the winter sale 2016 20:01 Raven262 I like them very much 20:01 Calinou I have all Doom engine games pretty much 20:01 benrob0329 I prefer scifi 20:01 Raven262 Well i guess i prefer that style over scifi 20:01 tenplus1 a wee bit of nostalgia 20:01 Raven262 But its a matter of taste i guess 20:01 Calinou Doom is just a special game to me... my dad let me play it when I was 4.5 years old or so 20:01 Calinou I only came back to it in late 2015, when I was 17 20:01 Calinou :D 20:01 Raven262 Really? mine too 20:01 Calinou I remember a few scenes of the game 20:02 Raven262 Damn i was afraid of the pink demons like hell 20:02 Raven262 They don't seem so nightmare-ish now 20:03 Calinou cacodemons scared me 20:04 Raven262 I only had the demo version then, so no cacos 20:04 Raven262 i guess they would be really scary too then 20:04 Calinou I had the full game on a CD, IIRC 20:05 Raven262 Nice 20:05 benrob0329 Living skeletons scared the crap outa me as a kid 20:05 Calinou played with DOSBox, my dad did not know about source ports 20:05 Raven262 Mine still doesn't 20:05 Calinou I remember this scene from the game, I took this screenshot today: https://lut.im/fqfk6GHbu9/mGMQvsHeoEfMoqvf.png 20:05 Calinou the orange sky, green walls, and pickups/staircase in front of you 20:05 tenplus1 sweeeet, brings back memories :D 20:05 Calinou also there's a cacodemon that flies up into that room, from outside 20:05 Raven262 I can't remember where is this 20:05 benrob0329 Nowadays it takes a lot to scare me 20:06 Calinou E4M7: And Hell Followed 20:06 Calinou I love the level names :D 20:06 Raven262 Oh yes 20:06 Raven262 I remember now 20:06 Raven262 Well its been more than few months since i played ultimate doom 20:06 Calinou although, I did not know much about the game back then... let me make a few more screenshots 20:07 Raven262 Still, i can say that nothing beats that feeling which i had when i got the rest of the wads 20:07 Raven262 I mean aside from doom1.wad 20:08 Calinou E1M3: "How do I get to this secret?" - I remember my dad telling me I could press Q to jump (?), but it didn't work... for obvious reasons 20:08 Calinou https://lut.im/IVEN58CJqp/MEaozDNwEc9J81Re.png 20:08 Raven262 lol 20:08 Raven262 My father always knew of that secret and i have no idea how he found out 20:08 benrob0329 Would anyone be interested in me doing a The Long Dark series? 20:09 Calinou although, some things struck me when I seen them recently, that I didn't know back then 20:09 Calinou like, Doom 2 secret levels, Ultimate Doom episode 3 and 4 end pictures 20:10 Calinou Raven262: I remember that secret trolling me all the time by closing itself in front of me :P 20:10 Calinou also, I didn't know about E1M9 20:10 Raven262 I know, Calinou, trolled me too a lot 20:11 Raven262 There is a secret on e1m9 that neither i or my father knew of 20:11 Raven262 And my brother found it by accident few months after we got the full game 20:11 Raven262 that elevator in the corner if you know which one i mean 20:12 Raven262 Also, when going trough e1m3, secret level was a must xD 20:14 Calinou hmm, I found the E1M5 secret pretty recently 20:14 Calinou pentagram-shaped structure which is a teleport 20:14 Calinou like, 5 months ago 20:14 Raven262 lol 20:14 Raven262 i had the problem finding the secret behind those barrels on the start xD 20:15 Calinou I remember playing Doom 2's MAP31 20:15 Calinou reading the wiki to find MAP32 20:15 Raven262 lol 20:15 Calinou I then played Wolfenstein 3D E1M1, and found E1M10 the same way 20:15 Calinou (same location) 20:15 Raven262 i also played wolfenstein map that looks like doom2's map31 20:16 Raven262 but wolfenstein wasn't that interesting to play 20:16 Calinou yeah it's not very fun these days 20:16 Calinou still is worth trying 20:16 Calinou but it also gets you dizzy quickly, since the levels are very maze-y 20:16 Calinou it's also very hard IMO 20:17 Calinou I can't beat E3M9 in lowest skill without cheats 20:17 Raven262 the main reason why i din't play it that much is cause i got stuck in the absence of the automap 20:17 Calinou ECWolf has an automap 20:17 Calinou try it 20:17 Raven262 nice 20:17 Calinou native resolution, true mouse support 20:17 Fixer hmmmm 20:17 Raven262 linux support? 20:17 Calinou yes 20:17 Raven262 nice :D 20:18 Fixer i don't know, how MONKEY you can be to fucking write this crap, that won't start past WinXP, and no fucking hack will help it (including wrappers) 20:18 Fixer tanksim.exe 20:18 Calinou you need to play E3M9, just because of the final boss :D 20:18 * Raven262 has to play e3m9 20:18 tenplus1 run inside vb 20:18 Fixer tenplus1: i have 20:18 Fixer tenplus1: but this is shitty 20:18 Fixer so i've tried wrappers 20:19 Fixer d3drm.dll error 20:19 tenplus1 old games arent 100% compat... shame but true... only fallback is vm running xp or wine 20:19 Fixer d3dim.dll crash 20:19 Fixer fuuuck 20:19 Fixer i've tried dxwnd, wined3d, ddwrapper 20:19 Fixer nothing helped 20:19 Fixer it starts, but crashes during ingame 20:19 Fixer how shitty 20:19 Fixer you don't write software for win like that 20:19 tenplus1 what's the title of the game again ??? 20:20 Fixer even tried dgvoodoo in dx mode 20:20 Fixer tenplus1: "Steel Beasts" 20:20 Fixer tenplus1: no need to google 20:20 Fixer tenplus1: nobody ever had success running it post XP 20:20 tenplus1 not google :P 20:20 Fixer it does not even run on wine 20:21 tenplus1 hah, the writeups are funny... no one could get it running either :DDDDDD 20:21 benrob0329 Wine in 2000 mode? 20:21 tenplus1 PlayOnLinux using latest wine dev was best they managed 20:23 Fixer it runs only in VM 20:23 Fixer but thats not cool enough 20:23 tenplus1 shittily made game indeed :P 20:24 benrob0329 Dosbox? 20:26 Fixer there is also M1TP2, and it runs 20:26 Fixer released in 2000 20:26 Fixer yet they wrote it THAT SHITTY 20:27 Fixer 640*480*256 colours 20:27 tenplus1 damn... no excuse for that... throwing games out for cash gain without making it properly 20:27 Fixer so i apply the 256 colour fix 20:27 Fixer and it crashes 20:28 Calinou eh, for what it's worth, even id Softwar can be lazy 20:28 Calinou Quake 3 does not come with proper widescreen support, its HUD is stretched 20:28 Calinou despite the devs having such screens back in 1999 20:28 Calinou although, very few other games supported widescreen properly back then 20:28 Calinou (but I think Quake 2 was easy to modify to support it fully) 20:29 Calinou (unlike Quake 3, which locks down game logic modifications on "pure servers") 20:29 Calinou (and you need to modify the game logic to fix widescreen) 20:37 tenplus1 nite all :P 20:40 Raven262 I'm sure that real germans are not screeching like this when you kill them. 20:40 * Raven262 was palying wolfenstein3d 20:42 Fixer Calinou: thats different, at least it runs 20:42 Calinou Raven262: mein leben! 20:43 Fixer there is one more game that gets on my nerves 20:43 Fixer Mech Warrior 3 20:43 Calinou better play Meth Warrior 3 20:43 Raven262 Calinou, blue ones are even realistic comprared to the brown ones, they are screeching sometimes xD 20:45 Raven262 If you look at the screen long enough you can think of the ceiling being the sky 20:46 Calinou there's an easter egg in secret levels 20:46 Calinou killing an enemy has a low chance of replacing the death sound with a fart sound 20:46 Calinou like in E1M10 20:47 Raven262 lol 21:00 Fixer sorry for offtopic 21:00 Fixer sometimes i want to fight with those games that refuse to work 21:00 Fixer it all started with pcem v12 videos 21:00 Fixer they have voodoo 2 emulation 21:03 Fixer so you can pretty much emulate PC of that time 21:03 Raven262 I'll run halo on linux in wine just to show microsoft whos the boss. 21:03 Raven262 xD 21:03 Fixer something like Pentium 133MHz / S3 / Voodoo2 / audio / etc 21:08 Calinou https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_wiaVl1i9Q 21:08 Calinou [demonic screeching] 21:08 Calinou (relevant to Quake) 21:33 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyMM0D_qx9o 21:33 Fixer quake related 21:34 paramat yeah MT is offtopic, make sure to post about quake and doom 21:37 Fixer less offtopic 21:37 Fixer https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1794 21:37 Fixer something intensifies 21:38 Raven262 paramat, http://i.imgur.com/rshR9KY.png this goes where? 21:38 Raven262 i guess its both ontopic and offtopic :P 21:39 Shara Hmmm.. coloured beds? 21:40 paramat using hardware colouring yeah 21:41 VanessaE homedecor beds had that months ago :) 21:42 sfan5 do homedecor beds feature bed bugs? ;) 21:43 Fixer bad bed bugs 21:50 Shara Random chance to get bitten? 21:54 paramat hehe 21:57 Shara paramat: wouldn't it make more sense for fancy beds to have colours than simple ones? 21:57 Shara They are, after all, "fancy" :P 21:58 Raven262 Make them rainbow colored 21:58 Shara I actually find the simple ones really ugly and try not to use them 21:59 Fixer coloured mobs in MTG 21:59 Shara Oh, let's just hope for any mobs in MTG first (even if bed bugs!) 22:06 Fixer "Apps That Emulate a Game System" Are Now Banned from the Windows Store 22:08 benrob0329 soo, people have to put those on Steam now :PP 22:09 Jordach Fixer, whoever gets a Gameboy Emu inside MC:PE gets MC:PE banned ;) 22:09 Jordach or: Turing Machines break app stores ;) 22:11 paramat yes i guess it's obvious fancy ones will be wanted too. but i think coloured simple beds will be wanted just as much 22:12 Fixer paramat: coloured baked clay *cough* 22:12 Fixer also, kid friendly 22:12 Fixer they love it 22:12 Shara paramat: then add both :) 22:12 paramat clay is not available in large quantities, painted stone might be better 22:13 paramat yes the PR will add both 22:13 paramat also less of a MC copy 22:14 paramat (painted stone, that is) 22:14 Jordach why not lime as well 22:14 Jordach make it slightly glow too ;) 22:15 paramat then there's the problem of very limited dye resources .. 22:15 Fixer paramat: yeah, thats minus, what I see is holes in sand everywhere since kids dig out all the clay 22:16 Jordach have clay generate underground 22:17 paramat maybe too unrealistic 22:17 Jordach and what's wrong with that 22:18 garywhite Hello 22:20 sfan5 clay is not available in large quantities 22:20 sfan5 it should be tho 22:20 sfan5 what if I want to build a brick house? 22:21 Shara Too little clay has annoyed me before as well 22:22 Fixer funnily not long ago clay was even more rare (because of bug) 22:22 Shara Ethereal bsaically drops in a biome that is made of clay to handle this. Not the nicest looking biome in my opinion, but it means I get clay :P 22:27 Fixer today I've learned OpenTTD sound pack is considered non-free by debian standards 22:30 paramat lots of clay blobs would look messy on the seabed, but an all-clay-seabed biome would look better 22:31 Shara Maybe possible to have different types of ocean biome, to some extent? 22:31 paramat that could possibly be added into an existing biome 22:31 paramat we do already, one for each land biome 22:32 Shara Hmm, I'm thinking more away from land 22:33 paramat they extend into deep water too, all ocean is an ocean biome linked to a land-type biome 22:33 Shara Hmm, can't say I ever noticed it 22:34 paramat only the shallow seabed varies, deep seabed is sand in all ocean biomes 22:36 Shara Yea, and it's the deep parts I am thinking of 22:36 Shara Give people more reasons for diving :) 22:37 paramat we can have underwater decorations restricted to certain ocean biomes 22:38 Shara Even that would be nice 22:38 paramat reminds me: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5748 22:41 Shara Yea, need proper water plants 22:43 Shara Get that in, drop some interesting things to find in the deep sea, and find a use for coral... then the sea would be interesting :) 22:45 paramat mtg devs are mostly absent recently, it's spooky 22:46 Shara Yea, noticed. 22:47 Shara And I'm too scared to spend much time on MTG PRs :P 22:52 Shara Ugh... I think I missed a capitalisation error on my last commit :( 23:45 benrob0329 https://vimeo.com/21019139 23:46 benrob0329 (Yes, its on-topic. Minetest could use a good soundtrack mod)