Time  Nick            Message
05:56 srifqi          So, how to use Travis CI build?
05:56 srifqi          My building progres is still at 9%.
05:57 srifqi          nerzhul,
05:58 nerzhul         it's not a use case, more a working example
06:00 srifqi          :O
06:01 srifqi          Well, I just run buildwin32.sh and tweak some value on toolchain_mingw.cmake.
11:57 nerzhul         https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19059927_10203340807558086_266623055909717707_n.jpg?oh=d3e47b98926ab43bb0f6abfad2076710&oe=59D395E8
12:17 * Jordach       is BTFI
12:17 Jordach         pffff
12:17 * Jordach       is BTFO
12:40 nerzhul         Jordach, is WTFIO
12:46 Jordach         uwotm7
12:57 Fixer           VanessaE: your servers are insanely slow right now, network problems or smth
13:12 Calinou         just saying, but Minetest at 1920x1080 fullscreen runs much faster than 3840x2160 fullscreen with undersampling = 2
13:12 Calinou         :/
13:12 Calinou         and that's on Windows
13:12 Calinou         not sure if we can solve this
13:14 Fixer           Calinou: not a gaming laptop
13:15 Fixer           if you want to play in 3840x2160, you need a gaming laptop or PC
13:15 Calinou         Fixer: yeah, but 1920x1080 is fine
13:15 Calinou         even at view range 150 (tested in singleplayer)
13:15 benrob0329      Calinou: the GPU has to scale the image up
13:15 benrob0329      For every frame
13:15 Calinou         benrob0329: true, but judging of how undersampling was implemented in Minetest...
13:15 Calinou         looks inefficient to me
13:15 benrob0329      Probably is
13:15 Calinou         also, you will get better rendering with upscaled 1920x1080 because it's blurred instead of pixelated
13:16 Calinou         the Minetest undersampling doesn't perform any filtering...
13:16 Calinou         Fixer: gaming laptops are bricks anyway, I'm not getting one of these again :P
13:16 benrob0329      Fatops FTW
13:17 benrob0329      You can actually take them apart
13:19 Calinou         yeah, but if you spec your ultrabook right from the start, you probably won't ever need to upgrade them
13:19 Calinou         taking laptops apart is nice, but it also makes them look ugly from the outside with all these gaps :)
13:19 benrob0329      "Ever"
13:19 Calinou         this one has 16 GB of RAM (soldered) and 512 GB SSD (replaceable), probably will be enough for 3-4 years for most use cases
13:19 benrob0329      Hah, haha, hahahahaha
13:20 Calinou         eh, I don't see basic programs requiring 32 GB of RAM soon
13:20 Calinou         also, you should complain at MacBooks where not even the SSD is replaceable
13:20 benrob0329      Depends, although the old thinkpads still work fine from what I hear
13:20 Calinou         using an old laptop is never a fun thing, so I don't care
13:21 benrob0329      What im saying is that they still work, as will newer laptops for about as long, if not longer
13:22 nerzhul         if a program require more than 4GB ram and is not a game it's not justified (and for many games it's not too)
13:34 benrob0329      Hi Megaf
13:37 Megaf           Hello
14:33 IhrFussel       Guys this line just crashed my server..it must be a bug or how can it be nil on_joinplayer() ? protv[joinn] = minetest.get_player_information(joinn).protocol_version
15:52 tenplus1        hi folks
15:52 Bobr2           hey tenplus1
15:52 tenplus1        hi bob
15:52 Sokomine        laptops...guess i'll have to buy a new used one soon. the old one's noisy cooler goes on my nerves. and it's too slow and small for..most things by now. any recommendations? how will mt run on a thinkpad x200 or similar?
15:52 tenplus1        hi soko
15:52 Sokomine        hi ten, hi bobr2
15:52 Bobr2           hello Sokomine
15:52 Bobr2           how is everyone doing today]
15:52 tenplus1        not bad thx, you ?
15:52 Bobr2           im alright thanks :)
15:53 tenplus1        I had an idea just now... lemmie know if it sounds ok or stupid
15:53 tenplus1        player:set_hp(damage, "reason text") -- reason text shows what caused damage, a simple string for things like fire, lava, mob etc.
15:54 tenplus1        also:   minetest.register_on_player_hpchange(function(player, hp_change, reason)
15:54 Bobr2           doesnt sound stupid
15:54 Bobr2           shows the reason why players got damaged correct
15:54 tenplus1        gives modders the opportunity to add special functions based on what caused damage, also awards and death messages that work
15:54 Sokomine        Calinou: i see no point in 3840x2160 resolution. granted, finer resolution may make text more reasonable, but...something like 1200x1000 ought to be enough in many cases
15:55 Bobr2           tenplus1 sounds good
15:55 Calinou         Sokomine: once you see text in hiDPI, you will think loDPI text looks far worse :P
15:55 Sokomine        tenplus1: that would be very fine. i'm not aware of the current state of damage and cause of death. it annoys me to get purely random death messages on some servers
15:55 tenplus1        hi Cal
15:55 Calinou         hi
15:55 Bobr2           hi Calinou
15:55 Calinou         building Godot for Windows using MinGW, to see if it works and performs well
15:55 Calinou         (GCC 7.1.0, latest)
15:56 Calinou         both 32-bit and 64-bit seem to be building fine so far
15:56 Bobr2           Sokomine yeah and itll come out usefull with AMHI as well since it will help with players complaints
15:56 Sokomine        Calinou: could be. but as long as i don't get accustomed to higher resolution i can live with the "normal" one. that also has the advantage to require less cpu power, less noise, less energy, ...
15:57 Sokomine        Bobr2: amhi? what's that?
15:57 * tenplus1      thinks standard HD is large enough for most things :D
15:57 tenplus1        amhi = user and server
15:57 Sokomine        ah. the amhi server?
15:57 Bobr2           Sokomine its my server :)
15:57 Bobr2           hosted by DI3hard139
15:57 IhrFussel       On my server at least you can see in the chat if a player killed you...but to calculate that message there is some hack required
15:58 Sokomine        aah. fine :-) havn't been there for a while. currently making ihrfussels server insecure :)
15:58 Calinou         Sokomine: true, but modern games have a lot of small details, and 1080p doesn't pay a lot of respect to them
15:58 tenplus1        hi fussel
15:58 Calinou         they look quite better in 1440p already
15:58 Bobr2           yeah i know about u not being there in a while
15:58 IhrFussel       Hello there tenplus1 :) I really hope they fix the collision bug soon, it breaks my server quite a bit
15:59 Bobr2           where do i know that name from...
15:59 Sokomine        Calinou: mt is by far the most visually demanding game i play. so that's not too much of a problem :-) but i don't want a too..bad...keyboard. newer laptops seem to offer choice between worse, horrible, catastrophic, unbearable...as far as keyboards go
15:59 tenplus1        w00t!  <fingers crossed> it's causing havoc with entities glitching so much
15:59 Calinou         Sokomine: I'm fine with this laptop keyboard, it has a small right Shift key (but full-sized arrow keys in exchange), but I never use that key in the first place
15:59 Calinou         since it's 14", no numpad, though
16:00 * tenplus1      gives Calinou a usb keypad :P
16:00 * DI3HARD139    pokes his head in
16:00 tenplus1        hi DI3HARD139
16:00 DI3HARD139      Hello
16:00 Bobr2           tenplus1 hows xanadu going?
16:01 tenplus1        Xanadu is running fine, few updates lately but ok... just the entity issues everyone is having with them glitching inside walls
16:01 IhrFussel       tenplus1, my players complain about losing their pets all the time...I'm tired of telling them to build 2-node wide walls...and double fences just look stupid!
16:01 DI3HARD139      You running /clearobjects? It removes mobs
16:01 Bobr2           Ihrfussel isnt that due to the /clearobjects quick command
16:01 tenplus1        fussel, yesterday I watched a chicken glitch inside a solid wall and die due to suffocation
16:02 red-001         lol
16:02 DI3HARD139      lol
16:02 tenplus1        the entity issue is a bad one, even soccer balls get kicked into solid nodes...  this is a serious issue that must be fixed
16:02 IhrFussel       Bobr2, I didn't use /clearobjects for 5 months now
16:02 red-001         huh a werid thing that happens sometimes is the player glichting into a node
16:02 Bobr2           hmm
16:02 red-001         you have to use fast and being in a liquid helps
16:02 tenplus1        hi red, and yes... knockback showed this happening
16:02 IhrFussel       I'm talking about animals running THROUGH solid nodes
16:02 DI3HARD139      Thats all I got. Im sure Im pissing the users on AMHI off as '/clearobjects quick' runs every hour
16:03 Bobr2           DI3HARD139 oh well life is life
16:03 DI3HARD139      indeed
16:03 tenplus1        why does '/clearobjects quick' run every hour ????
16:03 Bobr2           to stop lag
16:03 IhrFussel       Is your machine that weak?
16:03 tenplus1        what entities gather that much to cause lag ???
16:03 Bobr2           i dont know
16:03 DI3HARD139      So I dont have to do it and so the "warning: xxx objects in xxx area. Forcing delete" error stops
16:04 tenplus1        do you have technic installed ?
16:04 DI3HARD139      Not on that server
16:04 Bobr2           no
16:04 tenplus1        do you have sign_lib and itemframes ?
16:04 Bobr2           AMHI doesnt even have a armour in inv gui
16:04 DI3HARD139      sign_lib
16:04 Bobr2           yyes we do have item frames
16:04 tenplus1        all of those contribute tot he xxx items in area as well
16:04 tenplus1        increase the limit to 99
16:05 tenplus1        and make sure item_entity_ttl is set to say 120 for 2 minutes before dropped items are removed
16:05 Sokomine        IhrFussel: take a look at my cages on xanadu :-) but first make invisible glass visible to you. and even those cages proof to be not sufficiently secure sometimes :-)
16:05 Sokomine        bunnys, chicken and baby mobs are escape specialists
16:05 Bobr2           may i suggest something about animals
16:05 Bobr2           what about maptools:fullclip
16:05 Bobr2           does that keep them in
16:05 tenplus1        that's the think sokomine, they are secure.. it's the entity issue that's causing mobs to move inside solid objects
16:06 IhrFussel       I don't see how a fullclip node would be "more solid" than a dirt node
16:06 Bobr2           i just have a feeing
16:06 tenplus1        also tnt has an issue where it shoots dropped items and mobs into solid walls too
16:07 tenplus1        at least with my builtiin_item mod it free;'s the dropped items into a local space...
16:07 Sokomine        tnt ought to be illegal on servers
16:07 IhrFussel       The issue definitely started between Apr and May since my Apr server version did not have that problem
16:07 Bobr2           their own fault if they have it
16:07 tenplus1        it's disabled on xanadu, only lucky blocks has the tnt_burning node
16:07 * DI3HARD139    removes tnt and fire by default
16:07 Sokomine        wonder how i can get burli to extend his pathfinding algorithm to support ladders :-)
16:08 * Sokomine      nods to DI3HARD139
16:08 Sokomine        in the lucky blocks arena it's ok. that's part of what happens there
16:08 DI3HARD139      Little tip. Don't WE in 500,000+ TNT and set them off. It takes FOREVER to complete destruction.
16:09 tenplus1        heh
16:09 Sokomine        another reason not to have tnt
16:09 DI3HARD139      precisely
16:09 tenplus1        thankfuly it's disabled by default on servers now
16:10 Bobr2           thank god
16:12 benrob0329      Sokomine: mine cost me around $500
16:13 tenplus1        https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5971
16:13 benrob0329      i5, fully Intel so works flawlessly with open source drivers
16:13 tenplus1        not exactly an issue, but an idea for later inclusion
16:13 Sokomine        benrob0329: er, what did cost you that much? your laptop? ah
16:13 benrob0329      Yes
16:14 Sokomine        i don't like the keyboards in most current laptops. the thinkpads are not the same anymore either :(
16:14 Bobr2           agree
16:17 tenplus1        they have kinda squished them together
16:17 benrob0329      Sokomine: https://youtu.be/MgDfpzQya14
16:22 Sokomine        benrob0329: yes. that's a very intresting machine. wonder how it'll run mt
16:22 benrob0329      Sokomine: not my laptop, but it shows that the older thinkpads do still work
16:23 Sokomine        they do. i have an even older one that still runs. it's just...too slow hardware by now. too low on ram. much older than that x200
16:29 red-001         huh logging version strings is pretty intersting
16:30 red-001         too bad that minetest doesn't send the name just the version
16:30 red-001         "1.1.7--Android"
16:34 sfan5           it does send the name via http
16:34 Bobr2           hi sfan5
16:34 tenplus1        hi sfan
16:41 red-001         it seems that '1.1.*--Android' is a pretty common version string
16:45 Bobr2           oh
16:48 Krock           hi tenplus1
16:48 Krock           GOTCHA GAIN
16:48 * tenplus1      goes back in time and drinks coffee
16:48 tenplus1        hi Krock
16:48 tenplus1        :P
16:48 Krock           ^^
16:49 Bobr2           well tower broke again :/
16:49 tenplus1        what happened bob ?
16:49 tenplus1        krock, you experiences the entity issues with them glitching into solid nodes ?
16:49 Bobr2           end kernal panic not syncin vfs unable to mount root fs on unkown block
16:50 Krock           tenplus1, from what I've read this sound like they're soaked into the nodes, which can't be possible
16:50 tenplus1        it's possible alright... I watched a chicken glitch into a solid wall and suffoacte to death
16:50 Krock           it's rather that the server misses to calculate the collisions properly and reset the positions
16:50 tenplus1        also soccer mod hitting ball ended up inside wall
16:51 tenplus1        tnt explosino blew items inside wall
16:51 tenplus1        it's happening and very annoying
16:51 Krock           tnt is already known for a long time, as the items have a quite high speeed
16:52 Krock           fixing this issue will most likely cause more frequent collision calls or in exchange, weird movement
16:52 tenplus1        isnt there any other way to stop this ?
16:52 tenplus1        soccer ball and mobs arent even moving that fast for it ti happen
16:52 tenplus1        and no lag
16:52 Krock           but I haven't gone into this problem yet but it should definitely be solved in the core
16:53 Bobr2           one sec moving to main
16:55 Bobr2           and back
16:55 tenplus1        wb
16:56 Krock           tenplus1, are there also items that are halfway glitched into nodes?
16:56 Bobr2           thank you
16:56 Krock           I mean, other than completely inside or outside
16:56 Bobr2           may i post the specs of my tower in hear to see what u all think
16:56 tenplus1        yeah
16:56 Bobr2            HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-78-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.9GiB, 74.0% free ** Disk: Total: 568.2GiB, 92.7% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation DAudio Codec ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 5m 16s **
16:56 tenplus1        it's as if the collisionbox checks are too slow to stop it happening
16:57 Krock           f32 pos_max_d = BS*0.25; // Distance per iteration
16:57 red-001         Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ArchLinux • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4430S CPU @ 2.70GHz (3.04GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.6 GiB Total (871.7 MiB Free) Swap: 15.6 GiB Total (14.6 GiB Free) • Storage: 964.4 GB / 1.5 TB (520.0 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM] @ Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller •
16:57 red-001         Uptime: 9h 55m 35s
16:57 Krock           hmm.. that should be enough actually
16:57 Krock           oh. let's post sysinto
16:57 Krock            HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.8.0-54-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6700  @ 2.66GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.9GiB, 66.9% free ** Disk: Total: 366.2GiB, 73.2% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation G80GL [Quadro FX 4600] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel ** Ethernet: 645 NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express ** Uptime: 39m 13s **
16:57 Bobr2           i know about my ram
16:57 tenplus1        o.O
16:57 tenplus1        I'd have to type mine :DDDD
16:58 Krock           no hexchat installed there?
16:58 Krock           it's likely the first thing I installed after getting linux
16:58 tenplus1        am using Pidgin here
16:58 Krock           ah
16:59 Krock           Bobr2, nice specs but my kernel is newer :P
16:59 tenplus1        Pidgin: 2.12 ** Os: Linux 4.10.0-20-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu 17.04, blah blah! yeah, net-top pc, slow
16:59 tenplus1        :P
17:00 Krock           :⁽
17:00 Bobr2           :)
17:00 Bobr2           how old is my kernal
17:00 tenplus1        Intel Atom 1.8 dual-core HT, 4gb ddr2 memory, 120gb sandisk ssd sata-ii, nvidia ion v2 graphics
17:05 tenplus1        4.11 is available bob
17:05 Bobr2           for?
17:06 tenplus1        linux
17:06 Bobr2           Ah yeah i know only just rebuilt this computer yesterday
17:06 tenplus1        what distro you running ?
17:07 Bobr2           urm lol
17:08 Bobr2           ubuntu 16.04
17:09 Bobr2           lts
17:09 tenplus1        ahh that's kewl :) good distro
17:09 Bobr2           shall i update
17:09 tenplus1        nah, if you want stable and suported for up to 5 years then leave as it :D
17:09 tenplus1        if you NEED latest drivers and versions of everything then yes
17:12 tenplus1        hi DS-minetest
17:12 DS-minetest     hi tenplus1
17:12 tenplus1        wb DI3HARD139
17:13 DS-minetest     tenplus1: still coffee in your blood?
17:13 tenplus1        ehehe :P had one a few hours ago...  was good coffee tho
17:13 DI3HARD139      ty. Really need to fix that router
17:13 DI3HARD139      hm......
17:13 * DI3HARD139    heads to ebay with a few ideas
17:14 Bobr2           lol
17:14 * tenplus1      orders an Oscar the grouch toy to build new pc inside
17:15 DI3HARD139      clever idea. Mine was to build a router with Intel AC nics and a quad gigabit network card. I think 4GB ram should do nicely
17:15 Bobr2           router is internet correct
17:16 DI3HARD139      Router: A devices that routes traffic to/from multiple devices
17:16 DI3HARD139      Basically it takes a network connection and splits it
17:16 Bobr2           i can suggest something
17:16 DI3HARD139      as well as manages it
17:16 DI3HARD139      ?
17:16 Bobr2           use virgin media XD or someother
17:17 VaultyTowers    duuude that new clash royal update is liiiiiiiiittt
17:17 DI3HARD139      eeeeew no
17:17 tenplus1        ?
17:17 DI3HARD139      Comcast is Fiber-Coax
17:17 VaultyTowers    2v2 you get chests, crowns and you dont lose trophies
17:17 DI3HARD139      Fiber back, Coax drop
17:17 VaultyTowers    nahnahnah guys
17:17 VaultyTowers    Google Fiber
17:17 DI3HARD139      Meh. I could top that. Try 2Gbps/2Gbps
17:18 DI3HARD139      If I wanted to anyways
17:18 VaultyTowers    dude id love that
17:18 VaultyTowers    oh wait I get 1gigps
17:18 DI3HARD139      :P
17:18 VaultyTowers    and im TWC XD
17:18 DI3HARD139      speaking of. I wonder how much it is now
17:18 * tenplus1      gets 75mb/s
17:18 VaultyTowers    sorry Spectrum
17:18 Bobr2           DI3 can u help me with some stuff on AMHI later please maybe if u have time
17:18 * DI3HARD139    gets the same as tenplus 1
17:18 VaultyTowers    they never changed the IP domain name
17:19 tenplus1        86mb/s when using linux :PPPPPPPPP
17:19 DI3HARD139      I wont be back on till tomorrow
17:19 Bobr2           ok
17:19 * DI3HARD139    gets 93/15
17:19 VaultyTowers    for me it depends what ethernet port I have is
17:19 VaultyTowers    my tower gets 100 laptop gets a gig
17:19 DI3HARD139      ew
17:19 tenplus1        I always seem to get better networking speeds with linux...
17:19 Krock           tenplus1, does the glitching through also happen with 1-node large objects?
17:19 VaultyTowers    but thats on ethernet
17:19 Bobr2           alright afk restart of vomputer
17:20 tenplus1        never tried it with things like that krock
17:20 VaultyTowers    tenplus1, yes it has to deal with drivers and crap
17:20 tenplus1        most of the world is single node blocks and that's the issue
17:20 Krock           tenplus1, so only small items are a problem?
17:20 VaultyTowers    we all know windows is a piece of shit (except Win10) when it comes to drivers
17:20 tenplus1        might line a room with refrigerators and check
17:21 tenplus1        (except win10 where w10 itself is a piece of shit)
17:21 Krock           VaultyTowers, so far I got all drivers running for my machines on win XP
17:21 VaultyTowers    exactly XD
17:21 VaultyTowers    Krock good luck getting working ethernet drivers for my inspiron I tried it
17:21 Krock           had to get almost all from the internet but they worked
17:21 VaultyTowers    failed
17:21 VaultyTowers    says needs last disk in set
17:22 VaultyTowers    course im downloading straight from Dell website and porting over partitions BUT you get what you pay for
17:22 Krock           alternative download or set up a ramdisk in the requested location then throw in again the whole setup program
17:22 tenplus1        I detest how big windows driver files are... I mean c'mon... 218mb for a damn wifi driver ????
17:22 VaultyTowers    XD
17:22 VaultyTowers    ikr
17:22 tenplus1        or 600mb for nvidia driver
17:22 VaultyTowers    lol I love how people still zip png files XD
17:22 Krock           tenplus1, when you strip out all useless fancy additional applications they usually get down to 20MiB
17:22 Krock           if not less
17:23 VaultyTowers    or even 7z or .rar
17:23 tenplus1        I'd hope so... but damn... a huge download just for that
17:23 VaultyTowers    tenplus1, which processor
17:23 Krock           LZMA2 is actually able to compress PNGs, if they weren't passed through OptiPNG
17:23 Krock           but well, 99% ratio isn't good at all
17:23 VaultyTowers    btw I swear to christ if DI3HARD139 gets a Titan X I will kms
17:23 tenplus1        vaulty ? my processor ?
17:23 VaultyTowers    tenplus1, yes the nvidia
17:24 tenplus1        x86
17:24 DI3HARD139      I might next year when my taxes come in XD
17:24 Krock           I believe he means the graphics processor name
17:24 VaultyTowers    lol you know what I found?
17:24 DI3HARD139      ?
17:24 VaultyTowers    I found a ATI Radeon Pro x800
17:24 VaultyTowers    those things are worth big money
17:24 tenplus1        I personally have an nvidia ion.2 gfx...
17:24 DI3HARD139      meh
17:24 tenplus1        but the driver isnt that huge for linux thankfully
17:24 VaultyTowers    ive seen em go for 60-400
17:24 DI3HARD139      lmao
17:25 DI3HARD139      They aren't even worth that
17:25 VaultyTowers    and they are from 2002!
17:25 VaultyTowers    DI3HARD139, apparently they were the best back then XD
17:25 VaultyTowers    or so ive read
17:25 RobbieF         Hi Shara
17:25 DI3HARD139      Yeah for about a year or so. Till nvidia caught up and started slaughtering them every year following
17:25 VaultyTowers    but rn im running a Radeon Cedar
17:25 VaultyTowers    XD
17:26 VaultyTowers    I still have a NVidia 2 gpu XD
17:26 VaultyTowers    Geforce 2*
17:26 Krock           heh, get a Riva TNT
17:26 VaultyTowers    Client: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Ubuntu "yakkety" 16.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU          420  @ 1.60GHz (1.60GHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.1 GiB Total (2.8 GiB Free) Swap: 3.2 GiB Total (3.1 GiB Free) • Storage: 110.5 GB / 196.9 GB (86.4 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 7350/8350 / R5 220] @ Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller • Uptime
17:26 VaultyTowers    : 2d 6h 3m 16s
17:26 VaultyTowers    mmm I love working with cedar the wood
17:26 VaultyTowers    smells so good
17:26 tenplus1        radeon drivers (open source) for latest ubu 17.04 are a lot better :D
17:26 * DI3HARD139    can get free cell phone service with unlimited data from verizon for $45+tax+fees
17:27 VaultyTowers    lol
17:27 DI3HARD139      The $45+T/F is for the data
17:27 VaultyTowers    lol I still got mifi's in the barn
17:27 VaultyTowers    or basement
17:27 VaultyTowers    whichever
17:27 DI3HARD139      eeeew
17:27 VaultyTowers    XDDD
17:27 VaultyTowers    2009 eat your heart out XDDD
17:27 tenplus1        that's pretty good for unlimited data
17:28 VaultyTowers    lol di3s gotta go use alot of Kodi streaming at work XD
17:28 DI3HARD139      The best part is the throttling only goes to 1.5Mbps/768Mbps instead of 64Kbps/64Kbps after 20GB
17:28 DI3HARD139      768Kbps*
17:29 * VaultyTowers  needs to purchase an HDMI-> VGA
17:30 DI3HARD139      Brah... Get with the times. What you need is a Scart cable!
17:30 Jordach         PogChamp
17:30 Jordach         http://i.imgur.com/T2vnMEC.png
17:31 Shara           Hi all
17:31 tenplus1        hi shara
17:31 Bobr2           hi
17:31 * Shara         pokes RobbieF a few times
17:31 tenplus1        msot tv's have vga
17:31 DI3HARD139      Oh wow lol. Did you notice the pe*** size app before it was removed? (I take the time to scroll through 1by1 when Im bored)
17:33 DI3HARD139      I see that a few IPs are trying to get to my network via telnet and ssh :P
17:33 DI3HARD139      #GoodLuck
17:33 Bobr2           easy
17:33 Bobr2           and im in XS
17:33 Bobr2           XD
17:33 DI3HARD139      doubt it
17:34 DI3HARD139      I'm watching the logs
17:34 Bobr2           im in with ssh]
17:34 Bobr2           im in with ssh
17:34 DI3HARD139      NNnnnnnnope. Just signed in to verify. Not seeing anything
17:34 Raven262        Hello everyone
17:34 Bobr2           u dont see me logged in?
17:34 DI3HARD139      Not on my home network
17:35 DI3HARD139      Hello Raven262
17:35 tenplus1        hi raven
17:35 Bobr2           ah ok also Plebs said to do what he was doing to my server i need sudoers level which i understand if no
17:36 DI3HARD139      Gotta learn a bit more :)
17:36 Bobr2           i can tail the logs XD
17:36 tenplus1        dammit, my chicken just escaped again through solid walls
17:36 tenplus1        Krock: trying fridges dude
17:36 Bobr2           ten plus one where u testing it
17:36 DI3HARD139      lol. Have you tried collision boxes if irrlicht supports them?
17:38 Krock           tenplus1, working on a patch
17:39 Bobr2           urgh
17:39 Bobr2           how does a item in a server just go missing out of no where
17:40 tenplus1        hi srifqi
17:40 tenplus1        Krock: soccer ball and dropped items have no stepheight whereas mobs have a default of 1.1 set
17:40 tenplus1        if that helps
17:40 DI3HARD139      Im off to bed. cya l8r
17:40 tenplus1        dya DI3HARD139
17:40 tenplus1        *cya
17:40 Bobr2           cya DI3
17:40 shivajiva       o/
17:43 Krock           tenplus1, https://pastebin.com/AREdETG3 compiling rn to test
17:44 srifqi          hi tenplus1 !
17:44 benrob0329      Nooooo the Ben Heck Show is getting renamed :-(
17:45 tenplus1        thanks Krock
17:45 tenplus1        so far single node TALL nodes like fridge dont seem to have glitch... could it be that stepheight glitches them inside nodes even when it's a solid wall ?
17:46 Bobr2           maybe
17:46 Krock           ...you have fridge mobs?!
17:48 tenplus1        ehehe, using homedecors 2node high fridge to wall in chickens to see if it can glitch through
17:50 Bobr2           lol
17:50 garywhite       the Ben Heck Show? What the heck is that?
17:51 tenplus1        hi nrz
17:51 nerzhul         hi
17:51 Bobr2           which chickens we talking about mobs?
17:51 tenplus1        yeah, testing mobs as entities and soccerball for player controlled entity
17:51 tenplus1        different one's to test with
17:52 Bobr2           i have mobs:chicken on AMHI
17:55 Sokomine        tenplus1: teach the mobs to play soccer with players :-)
17:55 * Sokomine      hides
17:55 tenplus1        heh
17:55 Bobr2           they cant get out of fullclip
17:56 benrob0329      garywhite: sort of a tech/build show based around projects
17:56 benrob0329      Sponsored by element14
17:57 garywhite       oh
18:07 Dargod          Hi all
18:07 tenplus1        hi Dar
18:07 Shara           Hi Dargod
18:07 tenplus1        krock: strangely the fridges seem to work... might have to add specific 2-high nodes for animal pens
18:08 Dargod          How I can remove player inventory info with sqlite player backend?
18:12 Dargod          I know about /clearinv command, but I can use it only if player loggined
18:13 Dargod          Before I can just edit player files, but after migration to sqlite I can't
18:21 Krock           tenplus1, #5973 should do it for mobs. TNT is another theme
18:21 Krock           s/theme/topic/
18:22 tenplus1        thanks krock :) hope this gets in and it works a-ok :DDDDDD
18:23 Krock           me too.. on both points
18:26 Krock           https://i.imgur.com/8Gq6Ih3.jpg
18:27 Bobr2           hmm
18:29 tenplus1        ehehehe, oldie but a goodie
18:31 Bobr2           whats a bind host
18:34 benrob0329      *cough* a real physics engine *cough*
18:34 tenplus1        that'd be handy :D
18:34 Bobr2           hmm
18:36 benrob0329      I don't understand what it is with open source engines and rolling custom physics
18:36 benrob0329      Even Godot does it
18:48 tenplus1        physics is nice but cpu intensive
18:51 benrob0329      tenplus1: you don't always check for change
18:51 benrob0329      Only if an object is "woken up"
18:52 benrob0329      Outside of that, you can skip computations for the asleep objects
18:54 cx384           bye
18:56 tenplus1        true true
18:57 benrob0329      And some calculations could be omitted by the server
18:57 benrob0329      Such as movement smoothing
18:59 tenplus1        does server handle all entity movement and sent to client to draw ?
18:59 benrob0329      Currently I believe so
19:00 tenplus1        and hopefullly only those viewable to player
19:00 garywhite       hi 11
19:00 tenplus1        hi gary
19:46 Fixer           !tell Krock JPEG
19:46 ShadowBot       Fixer: O.K.
19:47 Fixer           Make a moooooooooooooooove
19:47 * tenplus1      wiggles
19:50 * Fixer         pokes VanessaE
19:52 Fixer           time is runnniiiiing ouuut
19:53 tenplus1        ehe... nite folks :D
20:04 * benrob0329    heats up some mac and cheese
20:06 paramat         Shara shivajiva and any other server admin please consider https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5974 "Allow a server to disable all (non-essential) client-provided clientmod functions"
20:07 paramat         wow tenplus1 left early
20:09 red-001         I'm starting to see your point
20:09 paramat         we have some unvoiced users, shall we ban Grandolf? we might unban on minetest channel sometime but until then we should at least be consistent across channels
20:09 red-001         I say we add a single setting that forces clients to use all server provided media
20:10 red-001         so sounds, textures and client mods
20:10 Shara           Hi paramat
20:10 paramat         sorry i'm being annoying recently
20:10 Shara           You are certainly not annoying to me. :)
20:11 Shara           Very glad you are looking at these CSM issues
20:11 red-001         I thinking I might have to reimplement mod security for the client
20:11 paramat         :] i've been a bit hard on the CSM devs
20:11 Shara           As for bans... I'm not sure who banned him on #minetest or for what reason now
20:11 red-001         s/I/I'm
20:12 red-001         Shara, sfan5
20:12 Shara           Then maybe we should find out what sfan5 thinks of it.
20:12 red-001         for spamming about ##minetest-project
20:13 red-001         oh btw it seems that sofar might have some time for minetest soon
20:13 Shara           I previously told Grandolf I'd defend his right to be here if he showed he was making a contribution but... then I got accused of something. Haven't really followed things after that too closely.
20:13 rubenwardy      sweet, red-001
20:14 Fixer           weeks
20:14 Fixer           or more
20:14 Shara           Fixer?
20:14 red-001         eh when I unignored Grandolf I just got accused of trying to get him k-lined
20:14 Fixer           sofar is busy atm
20:14 sfan5           i think bans don't need to be done across channels since he only broke the rules in #minetest
20:14 sfan5           however i don't think the ban in #minetest should be lifted yet
20:14 red-001         well a few weeks is soon
20:17 Shara           sfan5: I also don't think they should always be across all channels.
20:18 Fixer           erm
20:18 paramat         when c55 closed down MT-project grandolf was upset and started a new MT-project channel and invited users to it
20:18 Fixer           i have RED hand when in creative mode, is this legit?
20:18 paramat         hehe
20:18 red-001         countdown till someone makes a joke about communionism
20:18 red-001           60
20:18 Shara           Just no.
20:19 red-001         3600
20:19 red-001         well I suppose whenever Raven returns
20:20 red-001         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZskjLq040I
20:22 paramat         i'm happy it's just a case of busyness for sofar, was a little concerned
20:22 Fixer           github image upload breaked for me
20:22 Fixer           Something went really wrong, and we can’t process that file.
20:30 lisac           hey anyone got any idea how to set up the inventory hud element?
20:31 lisac           this https://pastebin.com/SgAMLZhZ segfaults in InventoryList::getSize() const ()
20:32 lisac           red-001, RED FIST OF COMMUNISM
20:35 red-001         well that was 818
20:39 lisac           red-001, I managed to fix my code
20:39 lisac           but now I've got an even worse problem
20:40 lisac           some graphical bugs on the HUDs
20:40 lisac           and guess what? There's an issue about it
20:40 lisac           https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3970
20:40 rubenwardy      yup :)
20:41 rubenwardy      so many bugs that Indy won't be here anytime soon
20:44 lisac           hey rubenwardy, thanks for your modding book! I'm reading the inventories part right now lol
20:44 rubenwardy      yw :)
20:45 rubenwardy      haven't updated in sooo long though
20:45 lisac           yeah, and the HUDs section could use some more examples
21:07 Sokomine        hmm. snow is an obstacle for mobs...maybe i ought to change it so that snow on the ground can be walked through
21:19 nerzhul         the hud API has some problems, like the representation of the HUD clientside and server side which is based on a vector instead of a map... :(
21:21 Lord_Buckethead huh I'm starting to like this nick
22:07 srifqi          After cross-compiling to Windows, when I run the app, I get Entry Point Not Found error.
22:07 srifqi          Any idea why?
22:12 srifqi          I only get that error after placing libvorbisfile-3.dll to bin/.
22:44 lisac           Lord_Buckethead, Your nick is not red enough
22:44 lisac           Good night, everyone
22:45 octacian        Jordach: Do you have a good cactus model?