Time Nick Message
00:02 Fixer gn
02:07 benrob0329 hello
03:49 octacian What's with not being able to revoke privileges like interact from singleplayer!?
04:01 benrob0329 octacian: its called a stupid decition no one wants to change
04:02 benrob0329 because "you could screw up your singleplayer account"
04:02 benrob0329 and "if your using privs for anything other than admining your wrong"
04:42 Zeno` huh?
04:42 Zeno` you can revoke privs from singleplayer
04:51 benrob0329 try it
04:54 Zeno` oh, interact specifically
04:54 Zeno` and shout
04:54 Zeno` yeah that's right. But other privs you can revoke (like fly)
04:55 benrob0329 But that doesn't always work
04:55 benrob0329 And for eg you can revoke your own privs if your the server admin
04:55 benrob0329 *cant
06:14 red-001 (offtopic) https://qntm.org/files/hatetris/hatetris.html
07:45 tenplus1 hi folks
07:49 shivajiva morning tenplus1
07:49 tenplus1 hi shiva :P
08:34 tenplus1 hi nrz
09:03 tenplus1 hi lumidify
09:04 lumidify Hi tenplus1
10:05 tenplus1 hi fixer
10:06 Fixer hi
10:27 Calinou hi
10:28 tenplus1 hi Cal
10:32 Calinou hmm, GitHub just added https://github.com/marketplace
10:33 Calinou it's in the top bar when logged in
10:34 nerzhul they need to make money as it seems :)
10:34 nerzhul i don't like to have free apps which require to order 0$, maybe at a point they need more
10:39 tenplus1 hi Zeno
10:39 Shara Hello all
10:39 tenplus1 hi shara
10:50 Fixer very hip
11:49 tenplus1 hi Jordach
11:49 Jordach meow
11:52 Jordach hai Fuchs
11:53 Jordach steam has all these wonderful games i have 0 interest in
11:54 * Jordach goes back to playing MMOs
11:54 tenplus1 hi Vanessa
11:58 VanessaE [off[ heh
12:41 tenplus1 bbl
12:49 Dargod Hi VanessaE :/
12:49 VanessaE hi
13:11 Dargod I think I must put my bouncer here
13:24 Zeno` oh come ON
13:24 Zeno` this is going too far
13:25 Zeno` this is a targeted campaign
13:26 Zeno` celeron55, do something to mitigate it at least. Get rid of #minetest-project
13:26 VanessaE he's afk
13:26 VanessaE also you know what? fuck using 'off
13:26 VanessaE ... [off]
13:28 Zeno` and tbh I don't care
13:28 Zeno` I want it logged
13:28 nerzhul Zeno`, please find memleaks instead of complaining haha
13:29 Zeno` at least two of those email addresses are NOT public knowledge
13:29 Zeno` I'm sick of his campaign of terror and FUD
13:30 Zeno` I've basically stayed out of it until the last few days, but I want it stopped
13:30 VanessaE as do I, Zeno`
13:31 VanessaE I'm sick of this shit
13:31 VanessaE "The Minetest core devs have escalated things yet again.
13:31 VanessaE After the next step, they'll be out of options. They'll be playing in my ballpark."
13:31 Zeno` He publicly threatened me in another channel today, so I can't wait to see what becomes of that
13:32 Zeno` VE, op me :P
13:32 Zeno` or I'll disclose your real name
13:32 * CWz uses apples to keep Zeno` at bay
13:33 Zeno` no no no. not apples!
13:33 Zeno` btw, does everyone know that CWz's real name is ChaosWormz?
13:33 VanessaE (as if I give a shit about you saying my real name ;) )
13:33 * CWz flinches like an apple
13:34 CWz Zeno's true name is, Jack andabeenstalk
13:34 Zeno` so you should, ChaosWormz
13:35 Zeno` ok, that's going too far
13:35 CWz My real name is Hugh Mungus
13:35 CWz eh nah
13:36 CWz I am too young to a Hugh
13:41 Zeno` you know that he leaked his next dox right?
13:41 Zeno` he's doxxing me this time: https://pastebin.com/qR5fhKvA
13:41 Zeno` it is illegal
13:41 VanessaE it IS illegal
13:42 VanessaE but is it illegal if the personal details were already published? i.e. minetest credits
13:43 Zeno` I don't think my love of ABBA is in the minetest credits
13:43 Zeno` I could add it I suppose
13:49 Zeno` #5800
13:49 Zeno` oops
13:49 Zeno` https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5800
13:50 Amaz xD
13:51 VanessaE haha
13:54 nerzhul review done Zeno` no
13:55 VanessaE nerzhul: wat? what's wrong with ABBA? :)
13:55 Shara Seems like a totally valid PR to me :)
13:57 Zeno` yeah it's a good PR!
13:58 VanessaE :+1:
14:13 benrob0329 Hello all
14:16 VanessaE hey ben.
14:17 benrob0329 what's up VanessaE?
14:17 VanessaE nada
14:18 VanessaE just more of the usual
14:20 benrob0329 UNHOLY SHIT
14:20 benrob0329 https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-open-source-company-windows-office-free/
14:21 Jordach WHAT THE FUCK
14:21 Jordach wait
14:21 Jordach April 1, 2017
14:21 Jordach nice meme
14:21 benrob0329 Oh
14:21 benrob0329 Just saw that
14:21 benrob0329 Heh
14:21 VanessaE hah!
14:21 benrob0329 Son of a...
14:21 benrob0329 Microsofy
14:23 DS-minetest the maker of this image wasn't strong enough to take away that stripe in the middle. nobody can ever be so strong
14:26 nerzhul i'm pretty sure sofart is Zeno`
14:26 nerzhul or maybe kilbith
14:28 paramat i doubt it's either https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5800#issuecomment-303109473
14:28 paramat ^ sofar
14:29 Shara Whoever it is, it was made back in January, so not specifically for this
14:30 paramat joined Jan 26
14:30 Zeno` umm I am not sofart
14:31 paramat yeah it's not like you to do that
14:31 VanessaE wtf
14:31 VanessaE that IS sofar's pic though.....photoshopped
14:31 nerzhul Zeno`, maybe just fart and no so
14:32 VanessaE dollars to donuts oldcoder did that
14:34 Shara Whoever did it was quick to jump in there, so was actively watching here or -dev
14:34 Jordach whos the matrix user then as Guest226147[m]
14:34 Shara What I've been wondering
14:35 VanessaE let's find out :P
14:36 CWz Ugh why did VanessaE soccerball them
14:36 VanessaE whoever it is has been in here under that nick long enough for their join or nick change to have left my scrollback
14:36 VanessaE (which goes back almost 2 months)
14:38 VanessaE whoever it is, they're welcome to re-join once they're no longer idle :P
14:39 Shara I have that that's what they joined as in my log
14:39 VanessaE odd.
14:40 Shara Hmm
14:40 Shara Wayward_One: can you also please confirm if wayward1 is also you?
14:44 benrob0329 I get a feeling its not...
14:44 benrob0329 Also that Guest account was someone who wasn't logged in
14:45 benrob0329 Nope nvm, its him
14:45 Shara ?
14:45 benrob0329 he's in the Minetest matrix room under that name
14:46 benrob0329 Watward1
14:46 benrob0329 *wayward1
14:46 Shara Would still be nice to get confirmation from him directly.
14:46 benrob0329 Yes, but no need to kick him
14:47 VanessaE benrob0329: it was just a temp kick to wake him up :)
14:48 benrob0329 As for the guest...who knows
15:20 nerzhul red-001, your commits on the interface are painful in terms of translations heh
15:20 Zeno` fuck this [off]
15:20 nerzhul you added many things to translate before release, hurry up guys go to weblate to help us translate before release, 200 frenchs strings to review (i did 80)
15:21 Zeno` oldcoder, email me
15:21 VanessaE dollars to donuts, he'd have emailed you anyway, Zeno` :P
15:21 VanessaE supposedly he is watching the chat through some bot in here, so [off] is useless anyway
15:21 Zeno` I really hope he does email me
15:22 sfan5 why don't you email him
15:22 VanessaE legally he shouldn't.
15:22 VanessaE if anyone initiates contact it has to be oldcoder
15:23 Calinou nerzhul: thanks for the reminder, I'll check
15:23 VanessaE otherwise OC could try to pin Zeno for harassment or something
15:23 nerzhul VanessaE, wrong, spammers sent me mails i don't contact them :)
15:24 VanessaE nerzhul: well idk how it works where you are, or where Zeno is, but here anyway, it would matter
15:26 red-001 well halt/whatever_thier_other_nick_is isn't here
15:27 VanessaE granolf or something like that
15:27 red-001 yeah
15:27 red-001 they are the same person afaik
15:27 VanessaE Grandolf*
15:28 VanessaE probably so, and one of the two is constantly fucking up his nickserv login on inchra also :P
15:28 red-001 not sure what this guy's issue with me is
15:28 red-001 maybe I was too good at calling him out on his BS
15:28 nerzhul red-001, i just think he doesn't like your color
15:28 red-001 I don't like my colour even
15:29 red-001 I prefer blue
15:29 red-001 not sure why I pick this one
15:29 nerzhul blue-001
15:30 blue-001 huh thats nicer
15:30 VanessaE besides, shouldn't it have been red-100 anyway? :)
15:30 blue-001 but hexchat still highlights me with red
15:30 VanessaE (or green-010 :) )
15:30 blue-001 VanessaE, lol
15:30 VanessaE actually on my screen, now you're a dark purple :)
15:31 Shara Looks lilac here
15:31 blue-001 I didn't think I would see a joke about colour encoding
15:31 benrob0329 Light purple
15:31 Calinou red-001 is red-magenta-ish here, and blue-001 is blue-lavender
15:31 Calinou I am always black, benrob0329 is a slightly dark red, VanessaE is a purple a bit less blue than blue-001, nerzhul is bright green
15:31 Calinou (a /me is always intense blue)
15:31 VanessaE on my screen, you're green, Calinou
15:32 Calinou :)
15:32 VanessaE benrob0329: is red
15:32 Calinou I use Quassel with nick colors enabled, and default theme
15:32 blue-001 werid I can't find a way to change my colour in hexchat
15:32 VanessaE blue-001 was red before, now he's purple
15:32 VanessaE ^^^ who is this?
15:32 Jordach new person, who dis
15:32 Shara Other me.
15:32 blue-001 dunno
15:32 VanessaE ok
15:32 Calinou smurfing, now on IRC ;)
15:33 Shara Checking what colour my name would be from my own client :)
15:33 Calinou heh, you got a 2nd NickServ account
15:33 VanessaE one of these days I need to come up with a unique, descriptive nick
15:33 Shara Since own name is always blue, I can't tell
15:33 Calinou (I think freenode allows this, as long as you don't use it to evade bans, I guess)
15:33 Calinou eg. for your bot
15:33 VanessaE you're dark green, Shara. "Taya" is... um... well you have to say something first :P
15:33 Shara It's because I was known by that name on another project, and switching names has proved very hard
15:33 Taya Something
15:33 blue-001 I once ban evaded by using my real ip, that was one confusing afternoon
15:33 Calinou VanessaE: how about xXMeseMinerXx?
15:34 VanessaE dim yellow, almost light brown
15:34 Calinou :P
15:34 VanessaE Calinou: um, no
15:34 blue-001 (got k-lined for switching my nick too much)
15:34 Calinou heh, I got banned from #httpd because my bouncer kept timing out, but I was eventually unbanned
15:35 nerzhul in my hexchat everybody is blue except quoting me green :p
15:35 Shara Shara is a sort of mint green, and Taya yellow-green for me
15:35 blue-001 yeah I was trying to convince freenode ops to un-kline me, then I had to get my bnc provider to unblock my account
15:36 benrob0329 Calinou and VanessaE are a light blue
15:36 benrob0329 blue-001: is a light purple
15:36 benrob0329 nerzhul: is a dark red
15:37 benrob0329 Shara is a light green, and Tay
15:37 benrob0329 Taya was a dark purple
15:37 VanessaE mmmh
15:41 Fixer sofart is systemd hater?
15:41 blue-001 with the*
15:43 * Jordach is thinking
15:44 blue-001 alright reported
15:58 Jordach also contains RBA's missing logs
15:58 Jordach i bundled the tool with it as it's useless without it
15:59 * Jordach is beginning to suspect another mental illness right about now
16:04 Jordach ding
16:04 blue-001 ty
16:08 * Shara suddenly realises just how many TPS servers there now are
16:09 Shara Hmm, ten servers now
16:09 Shara No wonder I go slightly mad any time I try to admin there.
16:12 Calinou back
16:12 Calinou https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/6cmjeg/your_opinions_on_the_future_of_ubuntu_as_a/dhvrx0y/
16:12 Calinou the truth has been told :)
16:12 Fixer Calinou: IPO and death of ubuntu
16:17 benrob0329 Calinou: ubuntu is crusty stable
16:17 Calinou Debian exists in three flavours: rusty, stale and broken
16:17 benrob0329 lol
16:18 benrob0329 Ubuntu exists in one flavor, rusty with loose bolts
16:18 blue-001 I hope they add the much need Debian Mouldy soon
16:18 benrob0329 lol
16:18 blue-001 truly an oversight that there is no such option
16:18 Fixer is this actually possible? https://i.imgur.com/aLrhouR.png
16:19 benrob0329 Arch comes in one flavor as well: high maintenance
16:19 benrob0329 Fixer: as a glasses wearer, you'd need a very fat head
16:20 blue-001 benrob0329, I though it was PTSD triggerd by the words "sudo pacman -Syu"
16:20 Fixer benrob0329: in fairness, he probably is only fat in his entire country
16:20 benrob0329 blue-001: omw
16:21 benrob0329 Fixer: lol
16:22 Fixer he is probably the only fat person in entire country*
16:22 Fixer much better wording
16:23 Fixer https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DASiMQrW0AEqdah.jpg:large
16:24 benrob0329 WTF
16:25 benrob0329 Gentoo has 2 flavors, fresh and potentially broken af
16:25 Fixer relevant from cybereveryword: ＣＹＢＥＲＢＡＴＴＬＩＮＧ
16:26 garywhite What the heck is that Fixer?
16:26 Fixer garywhite: what exactly?
16:26 garywhite That picture posted 3 mins ago
16:27 Fixer garywhite: statue of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin via FaceApp retrieved from twitter
16:29 garywhite o...k...
16:30 Fixer amazing https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_pacHoXoAACP9L.jpg:large
16:31 Calinou now make Doomguy with this
16:33 Fixer https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_mtxKOUAAAIBfH.jpg:large
16:33 Fixer close enough
16:34 Fixer Calinou: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-US0G9XcAI65HR.jpg
16:41 Fixer Calinou: happy?
16:41 Fixer Calinou: don't see any confirmation...
16:42 Calinou lol
16:42 Calinou I was away, but nice
16:42 Calinou and weird :P
16:44 VanessaE G*d in heaven please give me a break from this weather. 88% humidity, 21C feels like almost 26 :( my ass is gonna have moss and/or mushrooms growing off of it by morning
16:44 VanessaE
16:45 Fixer #4 is my favourite
16:48 Calinou https://dev.etlegacy.com/issues/1036
16:48 Calinou I was… TRIGGERED
16:48 Calinou :/
16:48 Calinou seriously, I can't stand people like these
16:48 Calinou (see Spyhawk's answer)
16:48 Calinou which is plain BS, because there are AAA games today (Overwatch, GTA V) shipping with undersampling
16:50 Fixer Calinou: i've discovered undersampling just recently, and I'm playing since 199X
16:53 VanessaE Fixer: what message, the one I just wrote about humidity? heh
16:57 Sokomine VanessaE: you're half the world away...but we had that weather some days ago. dressed, walked around a short time - had to change. it was that bad one day
16:57 VanessaE it's been like this for a week now
16:57 VanessaE reaching real temps in the 27C range, which for us is hot as hell
16:58 Sokomine hm, 27 degree would be warm but perhaps still bearable. we have nice 23 degree right now (evening, sunny day)
16:59 VanessaE 27C + 80 percent humidity is ... not :P
16:59 VanessaE we should move to arizona.. 30C is common there, but it's a dry heat. :)
16:59 VanessaE (then again, so's my oven, I wouldn't sit /there/ )
17:00 Sokomine that is definitely not nice. it's usually relatively pleasant weather in hot summer here. indoors below the roof is not so nice and we tend to complain if it gets too hot, but usually the humidity is about right. it just wasn't a few days ago. very...hard to bear weather
17:00 Sokomine :-)
17:00 Sokomine too bad we aren't all like sam. he can even swim in lava with the right armor
17:02 Sokomine (repeat from -dev, regarding mines): http://www.picpaste.com/pics/screenshot_20170522_180115-ckt0hnaZ.1495469537.png does not look well. that is what is to be avoided when having tunnels on the surface
17:02 Sokomine (repeat from dev) tunnels i'm satisfied with: http://www.picpaste.com/tunnel1-XxwTPA9Q.jpg http://www.picpaste.com/pics/tunnel2-FZfU8HcL.1495469757.jpg full tunnel network: http://www.picpaste.com/pics/tunnel3-Ec7aSuJn.1495469782.jpg or another nice tunnel: http://www.picpaste.com/pics/tunnel4-VjdBIg8b.1495469817.jpg
17:02 Sokomine (just regarding mines generated by mods)
17:05 VanessaE that's a lot of tunnels..
17:06 Calinou Fixer: undersampling was not really needed until 3-4 years ago
17:06 Calinou hiDPI was hardly a thing back then
17:06 Calinou but now, nobody saw it coming and lots of games lack it :(
17:06 Calinou (typical game developer, I guess)
17:06 Calinou the same happened for widescreen :)
17:08 Fixer Calinou: i simply do not see hipdi around, only 1366*768, good luck even finding 1920*1080 with reasonable specs <1000 usd
17:08 Fixer 1366*768 = shit
17:09 Calinou it's only getting more common
17:09 VanessaE even my monitors are probably considered "high" DPI (even though they aren't), just because of resolution
17:09 VanessaE (1600x1200, ~52cm diagonal)
17:09 Calinou yeah, usually 4K is always considered hiDPI because it basically can never be used without scaling
17:09 Calinou even on 32"
17:10 * benrob0329 has a FHD laptop :PP
17:11 Calinou 1440p desktop, 2160p laptop here
17:11 Calinou so my desktop monitor is worse :P
17:11 Calinou both resolution and DPI
17:11 benrob0329 Heh
17:11 Calinou 32" 1440p has an use, it can be used without scaling
17:11 Calinou but still, it's not pleasant in old games without HUD scaling
17:11 benrob0329 I'm planning on getting an ultrawide eventually
17:11 Calinou the chat is lost in the top-left corner of most (if not all) id Tech 3-based games
17:12 Calinou GoldSrc games have a HUD so tiny it's not even funny
17:12 VanessaE I stopped using the undersampling in MT, turns out not to be useful when not using real fullscreen
17:12 Calinou 21:9 is nice but I don't get the appeal much
17:12 VanessaE (because it still soft-scales the window up)
17:12 Calinou large 16:9 displays (> 28") are better IMO
17:12 Calinou you don't get black bars in videos, and old-ish games can manage it
17:12 Calinou (many games lock the horizontal FOV to 110 and don't compensate it for widescreen; in this case, you are fine with 16:9 or 16:10, not with 21:9)
17:12 VanessaE 5:4 or 4:3 or gtfo :)
17:13 benrob0329 Calinou: you get more screen space without needing the vertical hight
17:13 VanessaE wide screen monitors are blasphemous :P
17:13 Calinou well, there is an use to vertical height
17:13 Calinou with 32", 16:9 is all you need really
17:13 Calinou 16:10 would be worse because it wouldn't really "fit" your vision
17:13 benrob0329 VanessaE: try video editing or 3D modeling on a 4:3 screen
17:13 VanessaE been there, done that many times
17:14 VanessaE I have a whole library of self-made models :)
17:14 VanessaE BUT, I have three 1600x1200 panels
17:14 VanessaE so it's not like I'm starved for screen space :)
17:14 benrob0329 busted!
17:14 Sokomine VanessaE: good resolution. hard to get a monitor with 1200 height instead of 1080 or so
17:14 VanessaE Sokomine: Dell 2001FP, bought used on Ebay for like $80 USD or so.
17:15 Sokomine tunnels are important :-) there need to be even more :-)
17:15 VanessaE benrob0329: busted, nuthin' :)
17:15 Sokomine (and then we'll find bones of other players there who got lost in the tunnels...)
17:15 Krock was prepared to greet 10+1 but NO, HE'S NOT HERE
17:15 benrob0329 I like the extra space thank you very much :-)
17:15 Krock o/ benrob0329, VanessaE, Sokomine
17:15 VanessaE gretz, Krock
17:15 benrob0329 Hi Krock
17:15 VanessaE [05-22 08:41] bbl
17:15 VanessaE [05-22 08:42] * tenplus1 (~john@cpc95350-uddi26-2-0-cust73.20-3.cable.virginm.net) has left #minetest-hub
17:15 VanessaE (that's about 4 1/2 hours ago)
17:16 benrob0329 A 4:3 monitor would be a huge pain for my workflow
17:16 * Sokomine secretly picks up one of vanessaes screens and runs away with it :-)
17:16 VanessaE Abe has two more. can you tell we pounce on a good deal when we see it? :)
17:17 Sokomine obviously :-)
17:17 VanessaE they're not the best tech out there though
17:17 Sokomine might not matter much
17:17 VanessaE they have LCD persistence issues
17:18 VanessaE probably because they're active-matrix TFT
17:18 Sokomine i don't think they're that diffrent. i'm satisified with mine because it has a sesnor for brightness and gets darker when it gets darker which is quite practical. also has a very solid foot/mounting
17:19 benrob0329 I should buy a bigger monitor..
17:19 Krock 14:09 Sokomine what is abba?
17:20 Krock You're kidding, right?
17:20 benrob0329 The one I have now is nice, but its a bit far away with my new desk and it doesn't have the size for me to turn up the dpi
17:22 Sokomine krock: er, no?
17:23 Krock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92cwKCU8Z5c
17:23 Sokomine hm, what does the video show?
17:23 benrob0329 A Rick Roll :-P (jk)
17:24 Krock !title
17:24 ShadowBot Krock: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 4KB.
17:24 Krock "Abba - The Winner Takes It All", a music cideo
17:24 Krock *video
17:25 Krock I can play the melody and some sentences in my head without clicking this one
17:25 Krock a very known band from the 80s
17:25 blue-001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU
17:25 Krock blue-001, that's not a band.
17:25 Krock this is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNr6Yi_D4HE
17:26 blue-001 was expecting rick rolling
17:26 blue-001 was disapointed
17:26 Krock you'll get it when you don't expect rick
17:27 rubenwardy lol
17:28 rubenwardy doesn't that picture of me look good?
17:28 blue-001 brb having an epileptic seizure
17:28 Calinou Never gonna mine you up
17:28 Calinou Never gonna test you down
17:29 VanessaE never gonna mese around
17:29 Sokomine ah. i remember having heared about such a band. i just don't care about music
17:29 VanessaE or deh-sert you
17:30 Krock never gonna make you grief
17:30 * benrob0329 join blue-001
17:30 Krock never gonna say f*** you, never gonna tell an admin or ban you
17:30 Sokomine krock: ok. important sentence regarding mt :-) nobody wants griefers after all (though that might have been usage in the original sense)
17:31 benrob0329 Top kek: https://youtu.be/Gc2u6AFImn8
17:31 Krock hehe.
17:31 Krock benrob0329, already know that. It's a good one
17:32 Krock sadly a bit short
17:32 benrob0329 Krock: its funny that it actually works though
17:32 Krock benrob0329, there's also a Darude Astley song
17:33 benrob0329 Ah yes, now for the classic: https://youtu.be/ZZ5LpwO-An4
17:33 paramat i like the tunnel network screenshot. however, rather busy at the moment, maybe after release i can think more about mine mods
17:34 blue-001 oh neat sofart got removed by github support
17:34 blue-001 the account Fixer whos comment fixer pasted
17:34 blue-001 whoes*
17:35 blue-001 whose*
17:35 Krock hmm? what was the comment about?
17:36 blue-001 Krock, just a normal comment but the users avatar was sofars picture photoshoped to have a hitler mustash and a ss hat
17:36 blue-001 mustache*
17:36 blue-001 reported them for nazi symbolism
17:37 paramat good
17:37 Sokomine paramat: no need to hurry. it's been lying around on my disk (and in an older version on github) for quite a while now. there are many other mods that add similar tunnels (minus the shafts) that do not bother about connecting to the surface
17:37 Jordach ä¹‡ä¹‚ã„’å°ºå‚ ã„’å„丨匚匚
17:37 blue-001 oh lol the image is still on github servers
17:38 Sokomine blue-001: ah. good that it got removed then
17:38 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/hEFWCh0.jpg
17:38 Sokomine Jordach: hi. and what does that mean? :-)
17:38 paramat Sokomine does your mod run in 'on generate' or spread by ABM outwards from the shaft?
17:39 Jordach http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/232/046/190.gif
17:39 Sokomine paramat: on generate. but the placement of the mines (where shall the main shaft be?) is currently hardcoded
17:40 paramat ahh
17:40 Sokomine the rest (depth, placement of tunnels) is random and in part depends on the terrain. all works through voxelmanip
17:41 Sokomine Jordach: the kitten is nice. the other picture is of no intrest
17:42 paramat yeah this will be a challenge, it has to be generated in 'on generated' and predefined per mapchunk somehow
17:43 blue-001 my bad it's an luftwaffe officer cap
17:47 Sokomine paramat: my attempts in that direction wheren't too successful yet. i don't like underground structures that are not connected to anything else. and connecting them at the surface is tricky and not always convincing
18:19 Shara Grandolf and halt_: any particular reason you are joining this channel, and yet never ask for voice?
18:20 Krock hint: They can't answer you in this channel
18:20 Shara They can PM
18:20 Krock indeed
18:20 Shara Or speak to me on one of many other channels I'm in which they are always joining (and also never contributing in)
18:20 blue-001 they joined all the minetest related chanels on freenode
18:21 blue-001 I guess it's some sort of logger
18:21 shivajiva given the current situation I see no reason to entertain loggers
18:21 blue-001 with a human in/on the loop
18:22 Shara Most of their comments elsewhere have been pretty suspiscious, so if they neither message me, nor anyone protests in the next while, I'll kick them.
18:22 Shara They can always PM at another time.
18:22 blue-001 they seem very much like a basic logger that pretends to be a user
18:22 shivajiva they are welcome to read the logs the same way as everyone else :)
18:23 benrob0329 Grandolf: has spoken with me in the past
18:24 shivajiva I've spoken to both Grandolf and halt_ previously
18:24 Shara Me too
18:24 Shara "Most of their comments elsewhere have been pretty suspiscious"
18:24 Shara (yay quoting my own typos :) )
18:24 shivajiva LOL
18:24 paramat i've seen occasional messages from grandolf and halt on -project, talking to OC (not that that is necessarily a bad thing)
18:24 benrob0329 Meh, seemed pretty normal to me
18:25 benrob0329 Grandolf is doing the knockback pr, no?
18:25 benrob0329 Or was that someone else with a wizard name
18:25 Shara That was Dumbeldor I think
18:26 blue-001 gandalf iirc
18:26 rubenwardy both were players on my CTF server
18:26 celeron55 just quit talking about OC, it's such a massive waste of time
18:26 Dumbeldor Knockback ? It's me yeah
18:26 celeron55 anything anyone says only fuels him
18:27 blue-001 Dumbeldor, lol sorry I confused you with the other famous wizard
18:27 Dumbeldor xD
18:29 Dumbeldor You wanted to aske me ?
18:29 Dumbeldor ask *
18:33 shivajiva I think benrob wasn't certain which wizard had done the knockback pr :)
18:33 garywhite Wait, why is Grandolf & halt_ both on my channel?
18:35 Dumbeldor Haha shivajiva, garywhite this is the channel of wizard :o
18:35 shivajiva they are everywhere when you look garywhite
18:35 Shara I've also messaged them elsewhere, in a channel where they can reply withotu PMing, and no response.
18:35 Shara without*
18:36 garywhite Yeah, but look at his channel list. What do they all have in common?
18:36 garywhite I'm in all of those channels
18:37 Shara You probably only see the ones you're also in.
18:37 blue-001 ^
18:37 blue-001 thats how freenode work
18:37 shivajiva ^
18:38 blue-001 I used to be in basicly all the public minetest channels at one point and they where everywhere
18:39 blue-001 they in this case can be seen as both singular and plural
18:40 Shara Oh well.
18:41 shivajiva any response?
18:41 Shara Grandolf / halt_: Feel free to PM one of the ops here about rejoining, but this is a channel for those who take part in discussion in some way. You are welcome to read the logs any time.
18:41 Shara None.
18:45 blue-001 thats my alt bnc
18:45 blue-001 in case elite bnc goes down
18:46 rubenwardy O_o
18:46 rubenwardy does that happen?
18:46 rubenwardy +often
18:46 blue-001 happened a few times when there was a nasty netsplit
18:47 Calinou when my VPS provider has an outage, I basically have no IRC
18:47 Calinou I don't even have a backup client at hand
18:47 blue-001 or when they got ddos'ed
18:48 rubenwardy I should probably install a bouncer on my VPS
18:48 rubenwardy I like the idea of rubenwardy@rubenwardy.com
18:48 blue-001 it's pretty rare but every so often they either lose connection or get attacked
18:49 Calinou rubenwardy: be a hipster, hello@rubenwardy.com
18:49 Calinou :D
18:49 Calinou I love those hipster sites with their hello@ emails
18:49 Calinou because "contact" is so 2006
18:49 rubenwardy lol
18:49 rubenwardy need to setup email too
18:50 Calinou I use Gandi's email here
18:50 Calinou not self-hosted
18:51 Calinou less banning for spam going on, easier
18:51 garywhite Shara: Look
18:51 Shara Got a PM now :)
18:53 CWz senses a spy
18:59 blue-001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi5pOo_Z2GM
19:16 blue-001 honestly this isn't horriblie important
19:17 Shara Nope, not even slightly.
19:17 blue-001 might as well
19:19 paramat well halt has not done anything wrong
19:19 blue-001 I mean could some explain why they have the same ident?
19:19 Shara They claim to be brothers.
19:21 benrob0329 brb i need to update stuff
19:26 ircSparky I could get a holdof Grandolf/halt_ if you need
19:26 Shara I'm talking to Grandolf currently.
19:26 ircSparky ah, ok
19:26 ircSparky nvm
19:29 ircSparky Also I can vouch that they are two seperate people, unless one person is able to talk over themself on mumble
19:30 lisac [off] Grandolf / halt are regular(s) on OC irc server so this isn't unexpected
19:39 VanessaE /me gets a whiff of lavender or lilac through the open window (I can never remember which is which). oh that smells nice
19:43 benrob0329 back
19:43 nore hi benrob0329 :)
19:44 garywhite :)
19:46 benrob0329 all nice and updated (as far as rusty old debian goes)
19:47 VanessaE nonono it's not debian rusty. it's debian stale, old, and broken :)
19:47 benrob0329 heh, i could run somehting else on my pi
19:47 VanessaE no wait, that's not right
19:47 VanessaE stale, broken... what was the third one?
19:47 benrob0329 rusty, stale, and broken :-)
19:47 VanessaE heh
19:51 paramat hm 'sofart' joined 26 Jan, a day after this PR by 'motherfscker' was rejected (rightly) by sofar due to author name http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/2017-01-25#i_4795636
19:55 blue-001 paramat, you have an old copy of his user page or something?
19:56 VanessaE heh, note the picture for 'motherfscker'
19:56 paramat so that's my guess. no the date sofart joined is in IRC logs, i put it in a message luckily
19:57 paramat had an urge to look at IRC logs around that time .. tadaa! :]
19:58 blue-001 Joined GitHub on January 26, 2017
19:58 * blue-001 has a screenshot and a local copy of the html
19:59 garywhite Apparently, everyone's convinced that Grandolf & halt_ are OC's spies
20:03 VanessaE why don't we just remove the loggingbot?
20:03 VanessaE half of this channel's chat is [off] anyway :P
20:04 benrob0329 technically we all have [off] logs anyways
20:05 VanessaE exactly.
20:05 VanessaE quit
20:05 VanessaE hm, doesn't work like that.
20:05 VanessaE sfan5: ^^^
20:06 sfan5 it's not useful not to have the loggingbot_ here
20:07 VanessaE ok fair enough
20:10 benrob0329 i want a script that automatically puts [off] on my messages after i run say... /off
20:12 blue-001 test
20:12 blue-001 test
20:13 benrob0329 what client?
20:13 benrob0329 aw
20:14 blue-001 for anyone using hexchat "msg %c [off] &2"
20:15 benrob0329 Ill need to write a script
20:16 benrob0329 How hard could it be, riiiiight?
20:44 * CWz wonder if playername begining with . could be an issue
20:46 benrob0329 can we all agree that chat on top of sky is really hard to read?
20:47 Shara Never had an issue
20:47 Shara (sorry)
20:47 garywhite I wonder if it would be possible to adapt chat color so that it's dark in the light so it's easier to read when you're in a lit area, & lighter color when you're in a darker area
20:47 Shara Isn't there an option to change the background colour for the chat background area?
20:47 garywhite But I've never really had an issue that was because of something in the game (screen brightness or glare from the window, yes, but not in-game issue)
20:48 Shara Or well, how see-through or not it is
20:50 benrob0329 a drop shadow does wonders :-)
20:51 Shara I think it would look wrong to have other than when you have chat open to use though
20:53 benrob0329 perhaps a setting?
20:54 benrob0329 it doesnt have to (and shouldnt) be a solid black
21:00 VanessaE in the old days we would just XOR the text against the background
21:00 VanessaE but that won't work here I guess
21:00 Calinou can't we follow the lesson from memes?
21:01 VanessaE ?
21:01 Calinou "white text on dark outline is readable on any background"
21:01 Calinou ;)
21:01 VanessaE heh
21:01 nore VanessaE: xoring is not very good if the background is 0x80, for instance I'd say
21:01 Calinou I think doing that is alrightn, but at low sizes it looks bad
21:01 Calinou it is viable mostly at higher sizes only
21:01 nore ^ yes
21:01 VanessaE nore: well, I suppose not. :)
21:02 nore Well white text on slightly darkened background is quite readable
21:03 nore But many people won't like a semitransparent overlay
21:09 Shara I wouldn't like it for the chat area I see when just walking around playing
21:09 Shara On the other hand, if it was an option, no loss
21:10 benrob0329 im not saying an overlay
21:10 benrob0329 hold on
21:10 * benrob0329 makes example image
21:14 benrob0329 http://imgur.com/a/2ZJk8
21:15 Calinou blurred drop shadows are expensive computationally
21:15 Calinou it makes redrawing the font at a higher resolution much longer
21:15 Calinou and your font library needs to support it
21:15 benrob0329 then have static drop shadows
21:16 benrob0329 aka semi transparent bits per charecter
21:16 benrob0329 possibly in font
21:16 benrob0329 (idk how hard that is)
21:18 benrob0329 MT uses freetype, right?
21:23 VanessaE MT already supports drop shadows anyway
21:23 VanessaE font_shadow = 2
21:23 VanessaE font_shadow_alpha = 255
21:24 benrob0329 can we have a setting for just chat?
21:24 * VanessaE shrugs
21:24 VanessaE oh wait, I do that too much apparently :P
21:24 Calinou it affects all the text
21:24 Calinou Minetest uses the same font everywhere
21:24 Calinou :(
21:46 VanessaE ...
21:46 VanessaE oops
21:52 VanessaE :(
21:52 sfan5 wut
22:07 garywhite rubenwardy can you please verify that you're active?
22:07 garywhite he's not here
22:07 garywhite oh wait, yeah he is
22:11 benrob0329 much [off]
22:12 VanessaE many hidden
22:12 VanessaE wow.
22:12 blue-001 lol
22:13 benrob0329 that was perfect :P
22:13 VanessaE :D
22:14 blue-001 hi rubenwardy
22:14 VanessaE greetings, ruq
22:14 VanessaE rubenwardy: *
22:15 * VanessaE flips the "q" over and tries tab-complete again ;)
22:15 benrob0329 lol
22:15 VanessaE you see? THIS is my purpose here. wisecracks and trolling ;)
22:16 Shara :)
22:23 Sokomine :-)
22:24 blue-001 :-)
22:26 cheapie =^.^= (or something)
22:26 twoelk seems some trools are worth feeding
22:26 twoelk -o+l
22:27 * Shara offers VanessaE cookies then hides
22:28 VanessaE yummerz ;)
22:29 * cheapie grabs one of the cookies
22:29 * Shara is saving the doughnuts!
22:30 VanessaE HEY!
22:30 VanessaE you come back here with those!
22:30 VanessaE :)
22:30 Shara Apparently my server now has government buildings including an office for the National Doughnut Eaters party.
22:30 Shara I love my players :)
22:31 VanessaE haha
22:31 * Shara sighs and offers up a single doughnut
22:32 VanessaE what's this crap?
22:32 VanessaE one lousy plain cake donut?
22:32 Shara Hey! It has icing!
22:32 Shara But if you don't want it...
22:32 * Sokomine puts a deliscious cake on the channel
22:33 * VanessaE rummages through the box... look at this... creme filled...jelly....glazed... sprinkles.... you even have an éclair in here
22:33 garywhite Eh
22:33 Shara Nooo... not the éclair!
22:33 Sokomine ah, hm, you ought to offer something...better...than doghnuts. they don't taste that well. there's better stuff :-)
22:33 * garywhite goes out to Safeway & buys a dozen donuts for $5
22:33 * Shara always giggles at the german name for them in fact
22:33 garywhite There, now everyone has donuts
22:34 * nore gets hungry
22:34 Sokomine do we have a name for them? i think they're imported form the usa and mostly named donuts as well
22:34 * cheapie digs through one of the boxes and pulls out a random glazed donut
22:36 Shara Sokomine: I really hope I'm spelling it right, but Krapfen?
22:36 * Sokomine has placed a cake made out of lots of powder sugar mixed with the white of the egg, layered with butter cream (with more powder sugar) and topped with er whipped cream (?) with thin pieces of chocolate on top. hard to get more calories into one cake!
22:36 Sokomine shara: ah. no, that's not the same thing
22:37 Shara It's what they called most of what I call doughnuts though
22:37 Sokomine they have some similarities, but krapfen do not have a hole in the middle
22:37 Shara doughnuts here don't require a hole
22:37 Sokomine they might indeed be related, now that you mention it...but they're usually only eaten at silvester
22:38 Shara We had them often enough, but that was in Austria, not Germany
22:38 garywhite What, you guys don't like the donuts I brought? Fine, here's some Krispy Kremes instead
22:38 Sokomine oh? i thought doughnuts always came with a hole
22:38 Shara Nope :)
22:38 Sokomine what's krispy kremes?
22:38 Sokomine ah :-) good to know
22:39 Sokomine there are plenty of more deliscious cakes than doghnuts imho. lots of cakes and other stuff from the bakery :-) *mjam* *getting hungry*
22:40 Sokomine last week i had a piece of frankfuhrter kranz. also high-calory, with butter cream and krokant
22:40 garywhite krispy kreme is a chain of drive-thru donut shops in the US that are usually VERY sweet
22:41 Sokomine ah, ok. much in the usa is very sweet. even the...er..the things hamburgers are put in
22:41 Sokomine hm. frankfurter kranz is the same in english...
22:42 * benrob0329 leaves a bucket of homemade ice cream on the table
22:43 * Sokomine thanks benrob0329 and takes a big sphere of the ice cream
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