Time Nick Message 01:04 benrob0329 o/ rubenwardy, bwarden 01:11 benrob0329 Hi octacian 01:13 octacian hey benrob0329 01:14 * benrob0329 is thinking about installing freebsd 01:14 Calinou benrob0329: I tried TrueOS in VirtualBox like 1 month ago, it was not quite a pleasant experience 01:15 Calinou (but you can compile and run Godot in it! which is pretty surprising) 01:15 Calinou it's ugly, the install procedure is not hard, but not pretty at all :P 01:15 Calinou it kind of feels like where Linux was 10 years ago 01:16 benrob0329 Heh, a quick gtk theme swap will fix that 01:16 benrob0329 (Granted, i think the terminal can be beutiful..so yeah) 01:38 rubenwardy Set up multitouch swipes on my laptop today :D 01:39 rubenwardy Although something seems to be swallowing two finger swipes :( (which I want to use for forward/backwards in a browser) 01:42 Calinou rubenwardy: multitouch works on Linux here 01:42 Calinou and on Windows 01:43 Calinou I can pinch-zoom in Chromium, for example 01:43 rubenwardy What driver/program are you using? 01:44 Calinou whatever came with Manjaro, on kernel 4.9.22 01:44 Calinou I did notthing special, it worked out of the box :) 01:45 Calinou it's almost usable in tablet mode… almost, because automatic rotation does not work (though it could be done manually via a key binding, for example), and I need to research virtual keyboard options too 01:45 Calinou fingerprint reader also doesn't work on Linux, it's encrypted all the way, so there will probably never be support 01:45 rubenwardy Calinou: can you try typing libinput-gestures-setup --version ? 01:46 rubenwardy actually, libinput-gesture 01:46 rubenwardy * libinput-gestures grr 01:46 benrob0329_ aaand we're back in buisness 01:46 benrob0329_ antergos boot rebuilt 01:47 Calinou no such command on my system, rubenwardy 01:47 rubenwardy nothing like libinput- ? 01:48 rubenwardy I'm using https://github.com/iberianpig/fusuma/ , a quick google for Manjaro gave libinput-gestures :/ 01:48 Calinou I have `libinput-debug-events libinput-list-devices` 01:48 rubenwardy yeah, doesn't use that then :/ 01:49 benrob0329_ Calinou: there;s an aur package for libinput-gestures 01:49 rubenwardy benrob0329_: I'll pm you the context 01:50 Calinou heh, `sudo libinput-debug-events` causes all input to be displayed 01:50 Calinou it hides the exact keys pressed, for obvious reasons, though 01:50 rubenwardy yeah, I was using that to debug 01:51 * benrob0329_ waits for old instance to time out 01:52 rubenwardy hopefully the author will come up with a fix, https://github.com/iberianpig/fusuma/issues/37 01:52 rubenwardy or I'll find a better version 02:02 Calinou https://lichess.org/@/c1k4v0k1 02:02 Calinou this guy played a whole -8 minutes of chess 02:02 Calinou (see top of profile, to the right of the rating graph) 02:04 rubenwardy oh, lol 02:04 * rubenwardy adds chess to his summer todo list 02:46 * benrob0329_ installs FreeBSD to a vm 02:47 sofar I'm sorry to hear that 02:47 sofar try clearlinux instead 02:48 sofar :) 03:28 benrob0329_ heh 04:37 sofar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYWQcZovMaY maybe soon? 04:43 octacian Night all! 04:43 benrob0329 Gnight 04:43 benrob0329 sofar: thats pretty cool! 04:45 benrob0329 It would be cool if the clouds rolled in rather than blocked in though 04:45 benrob0329 Like, all new clouds were the given density 04:45 benrob0329 So that the transition os smoother 04:45 benrob0329 sofar ^^ 04:46 sofar it don't work like that 04:47 sofar I mean, it could 04:47 sofar would be a change in the noise usage and result probably in a 3d noise I think 04:49 nore I think you would have to compute the transition, then move faces accordingly 04:50 nore a 3d noise wouldn't be able to keep the blocky cloud feel 04:51 nore then again, what about clouds coming from nowhere? 04:51 nore however, another idea 04:51 nore what if we could ask for the new density to only apply to new clouds 04:51 nore so that we set the new density 04:51 nore and the sky slowly gets overcast by the arriving clouds? 04:53 benrob0329 nore: thus was my suggestion 04:53 benrob0329 I just did a bad job at explaining it 04:54 nore oh, I though it was like the faces from the clouds moving to cover the new squares 04:54 benrob0329 No no no, just new clouds have the new density 04:55 benrob0329 (Offtopic) https://youtu.be/oimVNT1kMMA 05:02 paramat clouds do appear from nowhere, so current behaviour with rising density is actually realistic 05:10 paramat or rather, 'realistic'. invisible water vapour becomes visible cloud 05:13 benrob0329 Having fading effects would be nice, but more complex. 05:13 benrob0329 Current behavior is fine imo 05:13 sofar I just don't like the exclusivity of clouds to one type of skybox 05:14 sofar it makes skyboxes ... boring/uneventful 05:14 VanessaE RBA had the idea once of replacing skyboxes with a sky "dome", that would rotate to simulate cloud movement and/or sun/moon movement 05:14 paramat i see, you mean the default skybox 05:15 VanessaE I think the idea was to have multiple "layers" of such domes, one for clouds, one for sun/moon, etc. 05:15 paramat by 'skybox' i mean the custom ones 05:15 sofar well what we need is 2 skyboxes 05:15 sofar skyboxes can be rotated anyway 05:15 sofar one for day, one for night 05:15 sofar and a good alpha function 05:15 sofar and then paint in stellar objects 05:15 paramat a dome would not be suitable for a cubic world 05:16 VanessaE paramat: sure it would 05:16 sofar it doesn't matter 05:16 VanessaE it's so far away that the skybox looks the same anyway 05:16 sofar there's no reason to make a dome 05:16 VanessaE the only reason to make it a dome was because the math to rotate it was easier I guess 05:16 sofar it's silly frmo a 3d rendering perspective 05:16 VanessaE I don't remember too well now 05:16 sofar that's nonsense too 05:16 sofar rotating a 3d box is trivial 05:16 sofar and it has a simple mesh that way 05:16 sofar and it's easy to UV map 05:16 sofar etc 05:17 paramat nope it wouldn't look the same, the 'cloudy fog thing' at the horizon shows the skybox is a cube 05:17 VanessaE hm, I never noticed. 05:18 sofar good gradual rotation would make that largely invisible 05:18 sofar I don't think that's a reason to do weird stuff 05:18 sofar kiss, imho 05:18 VanessaE yeah I guess I can agree with that 05:18 paramat and the darker blue square at -Y did too before it was removed 05:18 VanessaE paramat: oh, I do remember seeing that 05:18 sofar ? 05:18 sofar screenshot? 05:20 paramat erm .. 05:21 paramat the -Y tile was dark blue like +Y, it had no foggy lower half like +_XZ 05:21 sofar oh 05:22 paramat http://i.imgur.com/yzAoYaH.png 05:22 VanessaE Bizarro World? ;) 05:23 paramat from flexrealm mod 05:24 paramat also you can see how the +_XZ tiles meet in a corner (top of image) 05:37 benrob0329 Gnight 06:14 nerzhul https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song61.mp3 oh yeah :D 06:17 sofar that's just terrible 06:18 nerzhul openbsd devs make a song on each relase, this one was very good 06:18 nerzhul https://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#61 06:20 sofar nothing like taking a bunch of excellent programmers who like hacking on outdated OS code and write a musical song every year 06:20 sofar it's like us minetest devs making textures 06:20 nerzhul openbsd is not outdated, it miss some modern feature but it's an excellent and robust OS for routers used by some constructors 06:21 sofar if it isn't moving forward, it's probably moving backwards 06:21 nerzhul (i have an OpenBSD which is connected directly to my ISP (Orange) in fiber it works great :) 06:21 sofar I'm sure it does an excellent work of routing IP packets 06:21 nerzhul yeah, at work 3 years ago we have 4 OpenBSD routers to manage our research lab it was excellent to manage :) 06:23 nerzhul sofar, do you know wiki.minetest.net and forum.minetest.net are hosted by celeron55 on OpenBSD ? :p 06:25 sofar well the wiki isn't exactly something to be proud of 06:28 nerzhul it's just a mediawiki, if you are not proud it's because of content, and you can contribute 07:24 celeron55 openbsd is very janky for sure, it's like they've changed nothing user-visible since the 80s 8) 08:06 tenplus1 hi folks 08:06 tenplus1 hi nrz 08:12 shivajiva Hi tenplus1 08:12 shivajiva 1 approval for #5622 :) 08:12 tenplus1 hi shiva... ooh, link me plz 08:13 tenplus1 found it 08:14 tenplus1 w00t! we need 'dis :D 08:14 shivajiva hmm I think krock may be persuaded to approve ;) 08:15 * tenplus1 glares at krock... who incidentaly isnt online... pah! 08:16 shivajiva hey it's early yet, he'll be around at some point :) 08:16 tenplus1 lol 08:17 tenplus1 been checking meta stuff, mainly comparing hopper and locked chest and the only diff. is that locked chests set owner string... am thinking if I set a string it'll cement the metadata of the block and make it work all the time 08:19 shivajiva okay, makes sense, my experience with manipulating node meta was with a node that had the owner all ready, the quest node in skyblocks 08:20 tenplus1 the only difference I see in hopper/chest is that chests set a string inside... other than that I dunno why it sometimes fails to write metadata on servers, but chests ALWAYS work on server 08:23 shivajiva makes you wonder what is going on, if you made a diff size chest would that always set the meta 08:24 tenplus1 all the hopper is is a 8 slot chest... the abm handles the rest... 08:25 tenplus1 *16 08:26 shivajiva how are you testing it, locally or externally? 08:26 tenplus1 both... am running on a singleplayer instance and a local network 08:28 tenplus1 will ask Shinji to add to Xanadu when he's around, that way I can have a live test also... see if the additional set_string helps 08:28 tenplus1 also added meta check when opening hopper... wont try to show formspec if it isnt there, so will stop existing errors 08:31 shivajiva maybe insert a print pos on_place just to keep an eye on the vector when it fails 08:32 tenplus1 good point 08:33 shivajiva soon as we know the failure mech we can trace it 08:34 tenplus1 maybe I shoudl just move all of the meta stuff inside the on_place when it's set down 08:35 tenplus1 could be that pointed_thing.above in on_place has a different coord from pos in the on_construct and metadata is sometimes being lost to the node beside it 08:35 shivajiva oi stop thinking what I'm thinking :P 08:35 tenplus1 eheheh 08:37 tenplus1 that being the case I can remove on_construct and after_place_node entirely 08:44 shivajiva on_construct is normally where the meta is initialised though 08:44 tenplus1 true, but I have a custom on_place that decides if hopper should be normal or side hopper, and what direction it faces... 08:45 tenplus1 so I changed to on_place = hopper_place, 08:45 tenplus1 and had the hopper_place function place node and set meta for simplicity 08:45 tenplus1 the change works fine on singleplayer and local network... 08:45 tenplus1 will up to Xanadu and see how it fairs 08:45 shivajiva okay :) 08:45 tenplus1 thanks for help :P 08:46 shivajiva pleasure ;) 08:47 tenplus1 I like how FaceDeer's hopper mod has come along :) tubes and sorters n stuff... really good :) I like mines simple tho :P 08:49 shivajiva it's good to have choices, sometimes lightweight is all you can afford 08:50 tenplus1 hifixer 08:50 tenplus1 shiva: https://github.com/tenplus1/hopper 08:56 Shara Morning all 08:56 tenplus1 hi shara :P 08:58 Shara Hi ten :P 08:58 Shara How goes? 08:58 tenplus1 hopper mod getting some attention, updating git now 08:59 Shara awesome :) 09:00 tenplus1 was thinking of doing a Beds Redo with coloured beds you can actually bounce on 09:04 Shara You know I've been thinking about beds you can bounce on :P 09:04 tenplus1 eheheh 09:05 tenplus1 one for each wool colour that has a slight bounce so it can be used for fall damage etc 09:05 Shara :) 09:06 tenplus1 also use 1 node per bed instead of 2... like doors has 09:15 Shara I prefer doors using two, not one 09:16 Shara you actually can stop people lagging into buildings with two node doors 09:16 Fixer hi 09:16 tenplus1 but with beds it'll save an extra 15 nodes per colour :D 09:17 Shara hi Fixer 09:17 Shara single node locked doors may as well not be locked doors 09:20 RoaryTiger Good morning tenplus1 09:21 tenplus1 hi Megaf 09:21 shivajiva Hiya Shara :) 09:21 Shara Hi Tiger 09:21 Megaf I was faster today 09:21 Shara Hi shivajiva :) 09:21 tenplus1 ehe... 09:21 shivajiva Hi Megaf, Fixer o/ 09:22 Amaz Hi everyone :) (May as well say hi as that seems to be the current trend ;)) 09:23 Shara Hi right back to you, Amaz :) 09:23 tenplus1 hi amaz 09:24 Megaf Hi Shara Amaz shivajiva \o 09:24 Amaz #minetest-greetings 09:24 Amaz :P 09:25 shivajiva Hi Amaz :) 09:25 CWz ello Amaz and tens and shara and megaf and shivajiva 09:26 shivajiva Hi CWz :) 09:26 Amaz Hi CWz :) 09:26 Megaf greetings CWz 09:26 shivajiva CWz how do you pronounce your nick? 09:26 shivajiva like keerwizz? 09:27 tenplus1 hi CWz 09:27 CWz ChaosWormz; that's what stands for 09:27 tenplus1 turkish translation added to mobs redo 09:27 shivajiva ah xD 09:27 Megaf I read it see double u zee all the time 09:28 Shara Hi CWz :) 09:29 shivajiva tenplus1: the code looks more ordered like that :) 09:29 tenplus1 thanks shiva :P 09:29 tenplus1 saved a few kb doing it that way :D 09:29 Fixer am I stupid or smth, where do you see pages on books? I wrote a book, no pages for me... 09:29 Fixer or it is visible only on someone else book? 09:29 * CWz places a doughnut on cheapies head, and a dough not disturb sign. 09:30 shivajiva yea and fixed the issue hopefully 09:30 shivajiva lol I see 11 looking hungrily at the dognut 09:31 * tenplus1 sips hazelnut coffee 09:31 CWz Pages are automatically added when text gets too long. however, only none book owners can witness this marvellous and awe inspiring sight which has come to be known as pages in a book. 09:32 tenplus1 which has a glitch and erases the book when clicking < and > arrows on latest builds 09:32 shivajiva Fixer: someone else was was complaining a book had no pages to write on 09:33 tenplus1 it would be nice if formspec offered the use of fixed width fonts so we could resize book pages accordingly and offer that feature 09:33 CWz In all honesty stories are best written with a word processor rather than a formspec 09:33 CWz hmm word processor mod; is that possible? 09:34 tenplus1 you would need a getkey feature 09:36 CWz hmmm 09:38 tenplus1 who made the bed mod that only had 1 oversized node as a bed ??? 09:38 tenplus1 I remember there being one 09:58 tenplus1 hi fingle 09:59 Amaz Could you give fingle voice please? :) 09:59 Amaz Thanks ten :) 09:59 lordfingle ooo! 10:00 lordfingle I can speak! 10:00 * Shara will add to list 10:00 Shara hi lordfingle 10:00 tenplus1 :LP 10:00 * lordfingle looks around the modernised new hub building in wonder. 10:00 lordfingle Greetings! 10:00 * lordfingle wonders what the hell is going on. 10:01 * lordfingle looks suspiciously at the newly installed bar and jukebox. 10:01 * lordfingle sits. 10:01 lordfingle So, hows things? 10:01 * tenplus1 offers hazelnut coffee n donut 10:02 * lordfingle nibbles on the donut. 10:02 lordfingle Hmm not too bad I suppose. 10:02 lordfingle Where's all the hard liquor? 10:02 tenplus1 heh 10:02 lordfingle Don't tell me....the place has been bought up to date. 10:02 lordfingle I suppose it's kid friendly too? 10:02 tenplus1 might just be... 10:02 * lordfingle eyes the new ball pen suspiciously. 10:02 Shara We just hide the good stuff well. 10:03 * lordfingle knocks the robot bar tender on the head. Wonders if it's in there? 10:04 * tenplus1 tests JP's mesh node beds :DDD 10:11 shivajiva Hi lordfingle, welcome to the hub :) 10:11 * lordfingle bows. 10:12 lordfingle So what's there to do in this hub? 10:12 tenplus1 game discussion, mod issues and design, donut feasts 10:13 Amaz And offtopic chat about anything under the sun (or above it, for that matter ;)) 10:14 tenplus1 hi DI3HARD139 10:15 DI3HARD139 Hello tenplus1 10:16 Shara Hi DI3HARD139 10:16 DI3HARD139 hello Shara 10:16 tenplus1 Xanadu server updated... Shiva, that fixed the issue... damn pointed_thing.above and pos didnt match 10:19 tenplus1 so on_place and on_construct may have different positions entirely 10:30 tenplus1 JP's BED mod and beds_plus (adds all colours and some fancy designs) is really good :D 10:31 tenplus1 afk 11:38 tenplus1 wb Megaf 11:39 Megaf thanks 11:39 Megaf I'm in way too many channel, gotta leave some 11:39 Megaf and I want to join others 11:39 tenplus1 ehehe, am only in here now... same ppl in most minetest rooms 11:39 Megaf #centos @#minetest-offtopic #Minetest-Chat @#minetest-project +##ventures #ventures #openvz +#minetest-hub #openindiana #photogeeks ##photography #openmandriva-cooker #OpenMandriva-Br #openmandriva #osgrid @#Haiku-Br #haiku #beos #OpenHardware-Br #Wireless-Br #MegafServer #Megaf #minetest-dev #minetest 11:42 shivajiva tenplus1: That's good news bud, another one bites the dust :) 11:42 tenplus1 eheh... 11:43 Fixer *,....,* 11:43 Megaf This Is A Test 11:44 Megaf Ok, everybody smile for the screenshot 11:44 Megaf :D 11:44 tenplus1 testing... testing... 7... 8... 9 1/2 11:44 * shivajiva adds 262203.73 miles back to the odometer of the dash he's working on 11:44 tenplus1 :P 11:45 shivajiva who said TVR's don't go far from the factory ROFL 11:46 shivajiva might of had 3 engine rebuilds though xD 11:47 tenplus1 lotta rebuilds 11:48 Megaf http://i.imgur.com/2OpZH1r.png [Hexchat screenshot, nothing special to see here] 11:49 shivajiva 100bhp/litre naturally aspirated 3.6 litre engine has a high wear cycle 11:49 shivajiva and motorbike performance 12:09 tenplus1 hi Jordach 12:11 Jordach meow 12:16 DI3HARD139 @shivajiva Did you make certain to do an LS swap as well? 12:16 DI3HARD139 :P 12:17 tenplus1 hi RobbieF 12:17 DI3HARD139 Hello RobbieF 12:20 RobbieF hey you two! 12:20 RobbieF how are ya's 12:20 DI3HARD139 I am wonderful! 12:20 tenplus1 not bad thx, fixed hoppers finally :) how's you ? 12:20 RobbieF Doing great! 12:21 RobbieF On my new computer now too. 12:21 tenplus1 ooh, what spec did ya get ? 12:21 RobbieF 2x hexa core w/ 96 GB RAM 12:21 RobbieF 24 cores total 12:21 RobbieF https://twitter.com/RobbieFerguson/status/857278332685209600 12:22 tenplus1 o.O sweet jesus!!!!! skynet... it lives!!! 12:22 tenplus1 hi nathan 12:22 RobbieF lol 12:22 NathanS21 hi tenplus1 12:22 DI3HARD139 Nice!. I'm saving up to get either a ThinkStation D30 (Currently running S30) or just an E5-2697 v2 12:23 tenplus1 I'll stick to my acer aspire net-top pc :P 12:23 DI3HARD139 I'm currently running an E5-2665 0 and 20GB ram 12:23 RobbieF I wish I could have one of these at my studio :D 12:23 RobbieF but alas 12:23 RobbieF just an i7 there 12:23 tenplus1 btw robbie... I notices in the video that manglefox is using an old version of minetest 12:23 CWz ello RobbieF 12:23 RobbieF \o CWz! how are ya 12:24 RobbieF tenplus1 yes, we need to update that laptop but means the OS needs to be redone. 12:24 CWz 24 cores 12:24 CWz ? 12:24 RobbieF it's older. 12:24 RobbieF CWz 12 true cores + hyperthreading takes it to 24. 12:24 tenplus1 ahh, plop Xubuntu 17.04 onto it... really breathes new life into old lappys 12:24 CWz 12 cores!? those exist? 12:24 DI3HARD139 Pft. Try 22 12:25 DI3HARD139 E5-2699 v4 is a 22c chip :P 12:25 tenplus1 eek! 12:25 CWz is it good for gaming 12:25 CWz ? 12:25 DI3HARD139 IDK is it lol 12:25 DI3HARD139 IDK if the $4.5k USD price tag is good for gaming though :/ 12:26 tenplus1 wb ben 12:26 benrob0329 Hi ten 12:26 DI3HARD139 There's also the 24c Xeon E7-8894v4 12:27 CWz Xeons are for servers if recall 12:27 RobbieF No, this is Xeon 12:28 RobbieF Xeons != gaming - but that's not to say they have to be servers. 12:28 RobbieF Though I'm sure Xeon would game just fine - but very expensive for gaming as an i7 would probably game better. 12:29 tenplus1 ehehe, I has an Atom dual 1.8ghz HT 12:29 benrob0329 Hi DI3HARD139, RobbieF 12:29 RobbieF hi benrob0329 12:29 benrob0329 CWz 12:29 DI3HARD139 Hello benrob0329 12:31 DI3HARD139 My Xeon E5-2665 is between the i7-5820k and the i7-5960x in most games and benchmarks. 12:32 DI3HARD139 Despite being a sandy bridge EP 12:32 DI3HARD139 EX* 12:33 Fixer tenplus1: double "not tamed" message was fixed or not? 12:34 tenplus1 ooh, cant remember if I did that or not during api tweak... 12:36 Fixer tenplus1: also, when mob is protected with rune, it says "protected" and on next line "missed" 12:37 tenplus1 it jsut needs some return functions added when protected = true 12:37 tenplus1 or tamed = true 12:37 tenplus1 these are in mob definitions 12:40 Fixer tenplus1: do i need a rune for born sheep if parents are rune protected? 12:40 tenplus1 yes 12:40 tenplus1 onyl works per animal 12:41 tenplus1 am thinking of taking out the catch chance and just keeping lasso to catch mob 1st time 12:41 tenplus1 it's a pain missing 12:46 * CWz overclocks a sheep mob. 12:47 CWz tenplus1, mobs_redo is missing it version of the creeper. perhaps an exploding lizard 12:48 CWz an "explodizard" 12:48 tenplus1 we have a creeper :P retextured tree model that blows up... is a separate mod but link is in redo forum page 12:50 CWz a suicide bomber mod for justtest and pvp server. allow players to craft bombpants and then explode 12:50 CWz or "head bomb" so player could be come head bangers 12:50 * CWz losses his mind 12:54 tenplus1 when running a function with result, would it be better to return true/false or true/nil ? 13:01 tenplus1 Mobs Redo API updated, Mobs_Animals updated to reduct chat messages 13:04 tenplus1 also if I can get better textures for the horse then I'll add that to mobs_animal 13:08 tenplus1 wb Megaf 13:10 benrob0329 CWz: I converted the tree monster creeper to the model and texture from the creeper mod 13:10 benrob0329 Its on the mobs_redo page somewhere 13:10 tenplus1 we use that model/texture on Xanadu... and really does creep players out when one appears :DDDD 13:11 benrob0329 Its like a suicide ninja 13:11 tenplus1 yup... and mob api handles protection or water check so explosion doesnt cause too much damage... only hurts surrounding mobs and player 13:12 benrob0329 that's handy 13:12 benrob0329 Means I'm no longer afraid of em blowing up my house :P 13:12 Megaf I cant touch the wireless cable and the internet drops 13:12 tenplus1 might need to add direction vector for explosion punches now that we have knockbck on player 13:13 tenplus1 you must have a high static charge in your body Megaf 13:14 Megaf that's what she said 13:14 Megaf lol 13:14 Megaf tenplus1, the thing that locks the cable in place, the little tab is broken. So it doesnt have a very good contact 13:15 tenplus1 ow... blu-tac to the rescue 13:15 tenplus1 wb nrz 13:15 Megaf tenplus1, Shara, are you up for a meeting in Edinburgh? 13:15 Megaf me, a friend of mine, you guys and maybe someone else? 13:16 Megaf tenplus1, there is some blutac, thats how it works most of the time ;) 13:16 tenplus1 strangely am off to edinburgh today with friend to pick someone up from airport :) ahh 13:16 tenplus1 *hah 13:16 Megaf tenplus1, heh, cant be there today 13:17 Megaf unless you find some last moment cheap ticket from Dublin to there 13:17 tenplus1 lol... good point :) 13:17 Megaf if you find anything under 20 EUR I will be on my way 13:17 tenplus1 all comes down to time and work schedule unfortunately 13:20 tenplus1 Q. should picking up mobs only be done with net/lasso ??? 13:21 CWz A. mob-e-balls too 13:34 tenplus1 hi sniper 13:34 * CWz puts on his darwin danger shield 13:34 tenplus1 heh 13:39 Shara Megaf: Wouldn't be against it if you get a few MTers interested in a meet, All depends on time and cost in the end 13:40 * Amaz would be up for it 13:40 Megaf so you all come to Dublin and lets meet for a pint. 13:40 Megaf "Just for one" 13:40 Shara I have at least four trips lined up for the rest of the year though, so cost is a bit of an issue 13:41 tenplus1 Fixer: animal and npc's wont display double lines now (hopefully) update api also 13:41 Fixer ty 13:42 tenplus1 also note, picking mob up with hand can only be an empty hand... cant be holding anything :PPPPP 13:42 tenplus1 net and lasso work as before 13:43 * Shara thinks meeting should be in Cardiff instead 13:43 tenplus1 so no more trying to catch bee or rat with pick in hand... need an empty hand and swift footing 13:43 * Shara hides 13:43 tenplus1 lol shara :D 13:43 tenplus1 the AOL meetup was typically held in Edinburgh also 13:43 Amaz Cardiff would be easier for me as well :P 13:44 tenplus1 ehehe 13:44 Shara We do seem to have a lot of UK people here, so it would be fun one day 13:44 tenplus1 Amterdam would be kewl :DDDDD mwhehehe 13:44 * Shara been there too many times :P 13:44 * tenplus1 hasnt been (yet) 13:45 Shara I switch flights there a lot 13:45 tenplus1 lol, that doesnt count :PPPP 13:45 Shara Hoping to go tos ome new places this year though :) 13:45 tenplus1 wb ben 13:45 Shara It does when you book the flights with a big gap ebwteen and go walkies to meet people :) 13:45 * tenplus1 is saving for Japan 13:45 Shara between* 13:45 Shara I'm probably headed to Malta sometime this summer, then possibly Moldova because why not? 13:46 tenplus1 nice 13:46 Jordach cardiff is like ~120mi from here 13:46 Jordach if not less 13:46 Amaz Very nice :) 13:46 Shara I'm not actually in Cardiff, but it's easy for me 13:47 * tenplus1 brings the donuts 13:49 Shara nomnom 13:49 tenplus1 back laters :PP 13:49 Shara I think he's scared I'll steal all the doughnuts :) 13:50 Amaz :P 14:14 benrob0329 Aww man, I wish I live in Europe.. 14:14 benrob0329 Ill just have to visit sometime 15:05 red-002 lol oldcoder seems to think I care if people know I live in Ireland 15:13 Amaz What does he mean that his MT would like to welcome you as a reader, red? I was puzzled when I saw that. 15:14 red-002 I regularly save a snapshot of his site so there is a record of all this 15:14 Amaz Ahh, okay :) 15:15 Amaz I thought that he meant that you read for them, or something like, rather than you read/visited the site :P *headdesk* 15:15 red-002 and I unbanned my ip address on -dev after I used it to test something that ended up getting it banned 15:16 red-002 I guess he managed to put two and two together 15:16 Amaz Heh 15:17 red-002 I would suggest routing top-fwz1.mail.ru to 127.0.0.1 15:17 red-002 seems to be OC's third-party tracker of choice 15:23 red-002 seems to be trying to do it 15:23 red-002 poorly 15:28 red-002 releasing information on people without permission is the definition of doxxing 15:41 red-002 it's not the first time he did something like this anyway https://web.archive.org/web/20170427154057/http://75.98.169.36 15:42 red-002 archived incase he tries to take it down 15:42 red-002 in case* 16:47 red-002 neat the ext4 driver for windows doesn't need a reboot to work 16:47 benrob0329 >windows 16:47 benrob0329 **TRIGGERED** 16:52 Jordach windows 10 already can run ubuntu apps 16:52 Jordach :^)))))) 16:53 Fixer ubuntu apps? 16:53 Fixer what are those? 16:53 Jordach ones compiled for Ubuntu distros 16:57 red-002 windows 10 has a subsystem that simulates the linux kernel 16:57 benrob0329 heh, that's cute 16:58 benrob0329 You know that FreeBSD has had linux compat for years, right? 16:58 rubenwardy you don't run Ubuntu to run Ubuntu apps 16:58 sofar you know that linux has a native PE32 execution stack right? no emulation? 16:58 red-002 yeah but its FreeBSD 16:59 benrob0329 so? Its still a Unix (not UNIX) 17:00 red-002 sofar, ? 17:02 benrob0329 red-002: http://wiki.osdev.org/PE 17:02 red-002 I know what PE is 17:02 red-002 since when can linux load them? 17:03 benrob0329 Well, Wine perhaps. 17:03 red-002 so emulation? 17:03 benrob0329 Not quite 17:03 benrob0329 Wine is a compat layer 17:03 red-002 same thing 17:04 benrob0329 The binary runs nativly 17:04 red-002 it emulates the api 17:04 red-002 instead of the whole system 17:04 benrob0329 Just the libraries are masked 17:04 benrob0329 "Emulated" infers hardware emulation 17:04 rubenwardy wrapper, not an emulator 17:05 red-002 well I guess you could describe the system windows is using as wine 17:05 benrob0329 Similarly FreeBSD (and NetBSD) both do something similar for Linux binaries 17:06 red-002 if wine just emulated the kernel 17:06 red-002 the userland is the same as ubuntu 17:06 benrob0329 No, wine wraps linux libs in a way windows programs will understand 17:06 benrob0329 Sometimes using actual dlls 17:07 red-002 so I guess it's similar but more low level? 17:07 benrob0329 Its not emulating, its wrapping 17:08 benrob0329 Nothing hardware wise is being emulated, and it still uses linux libs 17:08 benrob0329 You woulnt call say, gtkmm an emulater, would you/ 17:08 red-002 well that's just semantics 17:09 benrob0329 The whole api is rewritten 17:09 red-002 let's just call both compatibility layers 17:12 benrob0329 (Offtopic, sfw) https://youtu.be/LtPKx4nZhUs 17:12 rubenwardy ofc it's semantics, emulate is a specific computer-related term 17:26 Krock hi benrob0329 17:26 benrob0329 Hi Krock 17:26 Jordach benrob0329, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INnpnJvDXDg 17:27 benrob0329 Kek 17:27 Jordach he fixed the nintendo playstation prototype entirely 17:27 benrob0329 I just want to have a house filled with retro/style electronics everywhere 17:28 * Jordach looks at retro hi-fi 17:28 benrob0329 Old Unix terminals, 1950s radio, those weird slum tube tv things on stands 17:28 benrob0329 *slim 17:38 red-002 I see you can no longer connect to #minetest if you have an ident of "root" 17:50 Jordach benrob0329, i love watching Ben Heck 17:55 benrob0329 don't we all? 17:55 Jordach i can tell he as a form of ASD 17:57 Jordach anyone with it does have a form of savantism irregardless, you just have to find it 18:32 * CWz gives Jordach 600 points for using irregardless, instead of regardless 18:33 CWz irregardless ftw!! 18:33 Jordach i've got incredible charisma 18:33 Jordach i'm autistic so i hate being social 18:34 benrob0329 I'm an introvert, so I don't hate being social, but I don't love it either 18:35 CWz Autism > Normal 18:35 CWz Who the hell wants to be 'Normal' 18:35 benrob0329 what's normal? 18:36 CWz being Normal is the act of being generic and not special or unique in anyway shape or form 18:37 CWz It's like if the government killed off all the people and then created a man and a woman our of 2 tamplates 18:37 CWz Steve and Jane 18:38 CWz so is anyone here a "Steve" or a "Jane"? 18:39 CWz No where did Zeno` run off too. he is the face of abnormality 18:40 CWz crap the steves must have got him 18:40 CWz Welcome back. 18:41 CWz i figure that you managed to escape the Steves 18:42 benrob0329 Gosh darnit 18:44 CWz Why were you put in time out? 18:44 benrob0329 Idk, must've done something 18:52 benrob0329 This is what us geeks live for: https://youtu.be/PGHZJQ5DNx0 18:54 CWz I wouldn't go that far 18:56 * CWz throws an irc-e-ball at RobbieF 18:57 CWz dammit it broke. *goes to the irc-mart to stock up on irc-e-balls* 18:57 CWz must have low catch rate 18:58 benrob0329 RobbieF: https://youtu.be/PGHZJQ5DNx0 19:13 CWz dat link made him left 19:38 benrob0329 Hi paramat, nerzhul 19:39 nerzhul hi benrob0329 19:45 Fixer still no crash on gdb :/ 19:45 Fixer playing with 8 fps is annoying 19:45 VanessaE it's not often someone could be disappointed at something *not* crashing :P 19:46 Fixer i'm dissapointed since there were 2 crashes in 2 days (segfault on windows), that is unusually often, so I moved to debug 19:53 shivajiva bump https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5622 19:55 Fixer shivajiva: this bump must go into -dev 20:03 CWz Fixer, is it a server? 20:03 Fixer CWz: pepecraft? yes 20:04 CWz and it's hosted on windows? 20:04 Fixer no idea 20:08 garywhite From my understanding, Windows is not very good at hosting MT servers 20:09 rubenwardy it's not good for hosting any server 20:09 red-001 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5059 20:09 rubenwardy it's not good for anything 20:09 rubenwardy #controversial 20:09 red-001 pretty bad idea 20:10 red-001 someone on windows should check if it's still an issue after the recent changes 20:11 Fixer there is already player data in database available, should not be in issue 20:14 red-001 Fixer, file "database" is still the default 20:14 Fixer red-001: what you say? 20:14 Fixer (tm) 20:14 nerzhul just use database backend and it will be fixed 20:14 Fixer red-001: yes, it is default, but can be switched to database 20:20 red-001 why isn't sqlite the default anyway? 20:23 nerzhul red-001, backward compat on 0.4.16, with a warning, next release make it default and auto merge 20:23 nerzhul auto migrate* 20:25 benrob0329 Wb RobbieF 22:09 Fixer *,.....,* 22:12 red-001 Fixer, ? 22:12 Fixer internet problems 22:13 red-001 oh 22:38 benrob0329 Hello 22:39 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/bzXBXY0.png uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck 22:39 Fixer wrong channel, but still 22:41 benrob0329 Fixer: ? 22:41 Fixer so damn triggered right now https://i.imgur.com/lfmxyYB.png 22:59 Jordach Fixer, need a hand ;) 23:29 Fixer 98286a2 23:47 Fixer ^good 23:48 Fixer 4c03190 - bad 23:50 Fixer 6120251 - good 23:50 Fixer hmmm