Time  Nick            Message
02:44 Sokomine        how large can files get that are attached to forum posts?
03:05 paramat         i can see one that is 950kB
03:15 benrob0329      !tell RobbieF there is a breaking change in the tardis mod, youll need to rename the tardis file in the world dir to tardis.tardises (if it exsists)
03:15 benrob0329      oh
03:15 benrob0329      we dont have shadowbot here
03:15 benrob0329      Shara, can we get shadowbot please>
03:16 benrob0329      or whoever manages that
03:26 paramat         that would be good
03:26 kaeza           or MinetestBot
03:27 kaeza           sfan5, ^ ?
03:27 benrob0329      basically a !tell command would be helpful
03:27 benrob0329      (please)
05:10 VanessaE        sofar: *poke*
05:12 sofar           wut
05:12 VanessaE        can you make a change to your inspector mod?
05:12 VanessaE        where you present the node meta, it's all on one long line.  can you dump() it or something?
05:12 sofar           there will be plenty patches to it
05:12 sofar           yeah, there's more issues like that
05:13 sofar           I'm thinking of giving it a tabbed interface
05:14 sofar           so you can quickly hop straight to the right section easily and not have to scroll every time
05:14 VanessaE        could be useful
08:29 tenplus1        hi folks
08:30 tenplus1        hi lumidify
08:30 lumidify        Hi tenplus1
08:35 Amaz            Morning ten :)
08:35 tenplus1        hi amaz :)
08:46 tenplus1        what's new folks
09:16 atorian37       morning, does anyone have some kind of "playermanager" for mt servers? It would be nice to know if there are players, that are not playing anymore for some weeks and if they have connected only once and then no more...
09:16 tenplus1        hi Megaf
09:16 Megaf           Good morning tenplus1
09:16 Megaf           Good morning everyone
09:18 tenplus1        atorian37: names_per_ip handles that sorta thing and lets you know ip, alternative nicks etc.  /last-login  shows last time played and you can get idlekick mod to kick players who dont do anything
09:19 atorian37       tenplus1: thanks, will give it a try. is there a patch to list a table with /last-login for all players registered?
09:19 * VanessaE      peeks in..
09:19 tenplus1        hi Vanessa
09:19 VanessaE        hey
09:19 tenplus1        atorian37: I think it's saved in the player files themselves
09:19 VanessaE        anyone care to help me debug a pipeworks glitch? :)
09:20 tenplus1        what happened with it VanessaE ?
09:21 VanessaE        tenplus1: if you have a bunch of items in a tube, sometimes on shut-down/restart, they'll be spawned off to one side or the other, around 10 nodes away (might be 16).  they move as if they're still in their tubes, they're just displayed wrong.
09:21 tenplus1        o.O very weird indeed
09:21 VanessaE        am I the only one who's seen this happen?  and for that matter, it's only happening in singleplayer.  I've never seen it on my serer.
09:21 VanessaE        server*
09:21 tenplus1        sounds like the entities load in 1st before pipes are ready and travel onwards
09:22 atorian37       tenplus1: I hoped, there's something to list all over the players and get aware of the "black sheeps" in one table :)
09:22 tenplus1        RobbieF had a script that scrolls through player files and removes players over a certain age
09:25 tenplus1        VanessaE: do the entities themselves detect the world around them, or do the pipes detect the entities ?
09:31 VanessaE        I don't know
09:31 VanessaE        (that's nore's code0
09:31 VanessaE        )
09:31 tenplus1        ohhh, ehe :)
09:31 VanessaE        all I do know is when they're positioned wrong, they still move around as if they're in their tubes, so pipeworks knows where they are.
09:31 tenplus1        if the pipework entities had a check each second to see if it's inside a pipe, if not then stop it moving
09:31 tenplus1        that way it wont slide away from pipes
09:31 VanessaE        or rather, where they're supposed to be
09:32 VanessaE        I need to figure out what's wrong with it because I need to be able to check for number of entities in a tube, for the over-pressure breaking code.
09:32 tenplus1        or rather than smoothly moving entities, use moveto to slide them across to next node to save wandering :P
09:32 VanessaE        (since pipeworks doesn't track how many items are in a tube, in code, I have to check it after-the-fact)
09:33 VanessaE        I'll let someone else deal with how they move, I just want them to be in the right place :)
09:33 VanessaE        nore said he's never seen that issue on his end either, btw.  and I've never seen it on my servers.
09:33 VanessaE        only singleplayer
09:34 VanessaE        so I suspect an engine bug, but if it is, I couldn't begin to guess at the cause.
09:34 tenplus1        am thinking it's a map loading issue
09:34 tenplus1        entities 1st, map 2nd, getting them lost
09:34 VanessaE        nah
09:34 tenplus1        :PPP
09:34 VanessaE        pipeworks instructs the engine where to spawn them at, independent of map loading
09:34 tenplus1        gotcha
09:35 VanessaE        at least I think it does.
09:35 VanessaE        maybe it has to do with the items-per-block limit, which on my singleplayer is the default of 49
09:36 tenplus1        as much as it looks great seeing items float along the tubes, I feel the entities are giving more hassle just to see them
09:36 VanessaE        maybe but 90% of pipeworks' tubes is seeing those items floating aroundf
09:37 VanessaE        without that, you may as well just be teleporting things everywhere :)P
09:37 tenplus1        true, or use hopper-like actions moving them along the pipes
09:37 tenplus1        that way if a pipe is broken it drops the inventory item inside
09:41 VanessaE        well when this feature works right, it'll drop them on the ground when a tube breaks
09:41 tenplus1        kewl... will check pipeworks on singleplayer and see if I get any issues
09:41 VanessaE        not yet.
09:42 VanessaE        it's not ready
09:42 VanessaE        well, I just ruled out max objects per block :-/
09:43 tenplus1        limit is 99 per block now if I remember... wasnt it increased ?
09:43 VanessaE        idk
09:43 VanessaE        I thought it was still 49
09:44 VanessaE        in any case I bumped it to 500, same as my servers.  didn't help.
09:45 tenplus1        oof, thats a lot... ehehe...  xanadu has 99
09:45 tenplus1        brb
09:47 VanessaE        there, if you wanna play with it, set:  pipeworks_enable_items_per_tube_limit = true   in minetest.conf.
09:47 VanessaE        as long as the entities are where they're supposed to be, it works exactly as intended.
09:48 VanessaE        (if they drift out of a tube, that doesn't count, because they eventually snap back.  it's when they're not in their tubes at all right after startup, and never return to them, that the problem arises.)
09:48 VanessaE        I can't even bisect this because I have no clue where to start looking.
09:49 VanessaE        the weird thing is they are following the routing of their tubes, whether in them or not, perfectly.  if I place a trash can on the line, they get sucked right in and eventually they all (positioned wrongly or not) disappear.
09:49 VanessaE        so pipeworks knows where they're supposed to be.
09:50 VanessaE        I'm just at a total loss as to why.
09:54 CWz             sounds like we have a mystery on our hands
09:54 VanessaE        yep.
09:54 VanessaE        I'm gonna try to get some sleep, maybe a solution will present itself in the aether :P
09:54 VanessaE        night all.  have fun playing around, don't enable that feature on a world you care about, you may find a lot of broken tubes.
09:55 * CWz           hands VanessaE a 2000$ pillow
09:55 tenplus1        cya Vanessa
09:55 tenplus1        hi CWz
09:57 CWz             here you can take this $5 unposable action figure with no articulation and  bad paintjob
09:57 CWz             careful it might be lead paint
09:58 tenplus1        lol
09:58 CWz             and i think it might be explosive
09:59 tenplus1        most knockoffs are ;D
10:01 CWz             speaking of which, i found this VanessaE knockoff action figure called BennecaG her arms fell off, and she came with a mod called housecosmetics that mod is non functinal and the textures look like they were made in Windows 95 paint with only 4 colors
10:01 tenplus1        hahahaha
10:02 CWz             I also spotted a Shara knockoff action figure too
10:04 tenplus1        https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6b/82/c5/6b82c5912e611c1638bdcb704f27e3a0.jpg
10:08 tenplus1        hi fixer
10:10 Fixer           hi tidyman
10:12 tenplus1        wb nrz
10:13 nrzkt           ty
10:13 nrzkt           i found a nice memleak xD
10:13 nrzkt           ty CSM for pointing it
10:13 nrzkt           it's not a critical memleak but a memleak
10:13 tenplus1        where was it ?
10:13 nrzkt           LocalPlayer is never removed from client when disconnecting
10:14 tenplus1        another issue to add to the pile :PPP
10:22 nrzkt           f*** pc at work !
10:22 tenplus1        losing connection ?
10:22 nrzkt           no, graphic card hang
10:23 tenplus1        o.O ouch! on a work pc not even setup for gaming... hah
10:23 nrzkt           oh it hang not because of minetest, sometimes it hangs when i'm not using it...
10:24 tenplus1        weird standby issue... what Os ?
10:24 nrzkt           oh it's an up to date archlinux, but that shit only happens on my work pc, neither with my own laptop nor my own desktop and not my wife desktop...
10:25 tenplus1        specific to that gfx card prolly...
10:25 tenplus1        might wanna disable standby... use PowerTOP
10:29 nrzkt           yes i think it's this shit AMD old card, at home i have AMD cards without problem but this work card seem to be shit
10:29 Fixer           tenplus1: no gaming at work is allowed :trollface:
10:30 tenplus1        heh...  powertop will at least let you turn OFF standby for the card using an echo command
10:31 nrzkt           https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/54ffc4e915fcdb6f6e7556bc2d1f8b27fd567d9f
10:31 nrzkt           fixed
10:31 nrzkt           also please note in CSM player objet will be removed AFTER Luastack is removed :)
10:32 tenplus1        sweet, something so simple causing memleak
10:33 nrzkt           Dumbeldor ask me a question about localplayer desutrction for CSM sync between Lua & LocalPlayer and i was unable to find where it was removed
10:33 nrzkt           adding a breakpoint on LocalPlayer destructor show this was never called, i added this call and breakpoint matches when disconnecting from server, done
10:34 tenplus1        +1
10:45 Dumbeldor       :)
10:45 tenplus1        hi Dumbeldor
10:45 Dumbeldor       Hi tenplus1
11:28 paramat         https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5519 "Sneak: Add option for classic move code"
11:28 tenplus1        does it add in the falling sneak bug where you survive ?
11:29 Amaz            If the option is enabled, I would guess it does
11:29 Amaz            It would be ideal if that were a server side option, rather than client side :/
11:30 tenplus1        yeah, gives ppl old behaviour...
11:32 tenplus1        hi Jordach
11:36 tenplus1        back laters :PP
12:54 TommyTreasure   VanessaE,  *poke*
14:01 RobbieF         Hey all. Question: is there a way to make it so a git pull will work even if a specific file has been modified on the user's system? Ie. I have an application which has a config file. I want people to be able to git pull to get the latest changes, even if they modified their config file (which is inevitable).
14:04 TommyTreasure   far from anyone that knows anything 'bout git, but maybe change the filename to .example so it won't overwrite user's file?
14:18 RobbieF         good idea TommyTreasure-I will try that as an experiment. Thanks.
14:19 TommyTreasure   'twas just a thought.  was reminded when i upgraded my slack os.  all the updated conf files are written as .new if another one exists.
14:23 red-001         RobbieF, add it to the ignore file?
14:23 red-001         a.k.a .gitignore
14:23 TommyTreasure   readme.md is the first ignored
14:24 TommyTreasure   well, by users...  :)
14:31 TommyTreasure   btw, the .gitignore is great, except for those that download the file without git.
14:34 VanessaE        TommyTreasure: ow.
14:35 TommyTreasure   hi VanessaE.  not sure if it has anything to do with you pipeworks comment.....
14:35 TommyTreasure   but agaran found an issue with my teleport tube string.format a while ago
14:35 VanessaE        ?
14:35 VanessaE        what issue?
14:36 TommyTreasure   i was running on a 32 bit os, and the position was causing collisions
14:37 TommyTreasure   and the teleport data file was being re-written without the old position information
14:37 VanessaE        interesting
14:38 * TommyTreasure is looking for the string.format we used to correct _my_ issue
14:39 TommyTreasure   return string.format("%04x%04x%04x", pos.x%65536, pos.y%65536, pos.z%65536)
14:42 RobbieF         red-001 - ignore file? I am not familiar with .gitignore. I'll google it - thanks!!
14:44 benrob0329      Hello
14:45 VanessaE        TommyTreasure: I'm not sure how much similarity there is between your issue and mine
14:47 TommyTreasure   VanessaE, neither do i, but i just thought it might be worth noting
14:47 TommyTreasure   i'm not a coder, just an observer
14:49 TommyTreasure   my coding 'claim to fame' was learning how to do an item override.
14:49 VanessaE        everyone starts somewhere :)
14:50 TommyTreasure   my learning curve, after getting involved with mt, has turned into a learning 'hairpin' curve
14:51 TommyTreasure   sometimes too much for an ol faht like me.  lol
14:51 VanessaE        heh
15:27 sfan5           TommyTreasure: that % + string.format doesn't sound like a good idea to me
15:28 sfan5           if it works go ahead
15:28 sfan5           but i don't know whether that modulo works as expected with negative coords
15:31 TommyTreasure   sfan5, it was a workaround for the 32bit os, now that its been upgraded to 64bit, all is fine.
15:32 Megaf           o/
15:32 Megaf           Hi 11
15:32 Megaf           oh, hes not here
15:32 * Megaf         looks at Shara
15:33 * Megaf         looks at calculon
15:33 * Megaf         looks at everybody
15:38 * TommyTreasure quickly grabs bathrobe
15:41 * red-001       *
15:43 * Megaf         closes his eyes and hides behind Shara, scared
16:17 * benrob0329    finally eats breakfast
16:17 TommyTreasure   hey, the cold pizza is mine!
16:18 TommyTreasure   i got up way too early.  think i'm heading for a mid-morning nap.  my mom would be proud!  lol
17:35 Krock           again no tenplus1 to greet? :(
17:35 Krock           whatever, hello people
17:38 Megaf           hello Krock
17:38 Krock           o/ Megaf
17:38 Krock           this place is still growing :D
17:38 Megaf           [10:15:56] * ChanServ gives voice to Megaf
17:38 Megaf           [10:16:04] <tenplus1> hi Megaf
17:38 Megaf           I was lucky today :)
17:39 Krock           and what's the time right now?
17:39 Megaf           here 18:39
17:39 Krock           (I could just look in the logs but whatever)
17:54 benrob0329      Hi Krock
18:06 red-001         hi
18:17 Shara           Hi everyone
18:18 red-001         someone should say hi to loggingbot_
18:19 Shara           I get nervous about saying hi to logging bots... in another channel I'm in, the one there usually answers :P
18:19 red-001         also did another bot take it's name or something?
18:20 Shara           No idea.
18:20 TommyTreasure   hi loggingbot_
18:20 TommyTreasure   i'm game!  lol
18:21 Shara           H TommyTreasure :P
18:21 TommyTreasure   g'day Shara  and everyone
18:23 nore            hi all :)
18:23 Shara           Hello nore
18:37 Fixer           *,...,*
18:38 * Shara         hides from Fixer
18:44 Fixer           current mood: 281. 猫 シ Corp. - SECRETS OF MY AGE [with ローマンRoman]  [3:07]
19:03 Fixer           cheapie: whats up with that? https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/16494741/24722233/a85aebfe-1a4b-11e7-9e7c-b279f9173af0.png
19:04 cheapie         Fixer: Looks like a really long chat message (long enough to wrap). I don't see an issue there?
19:05 Fixer           cheapie: probably...
19:07 Fixer           cheapie: nice mod btw :)
19:16 Calinou         https://i.redd.it/q81rq3mukppy.jpg
19:16 Calinou         (some strong language)
19:19 Fixer           Calinou: weak languages
19:19 Fixer           this is kindargarten level of swearing
19:40 nerzhul         hub, a release middle may is good for you ?
19:42 Shara           nerzhul: depends on state of sneak, maybe.
19:46 nerzhul         Shara, erf i forget that thing
19:46 Shara           I wish I could :)
19:47 Shara           Having nightmares I'll need to compile my own clients for the rest of forever :P
20:12 Megaf           Jordach, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntV8gUsbIsk
20:12 Megaf           !title
20:13 Megaf           "'Repairing' the unique Twin Tape Sony Walkman"
20:14 benrob0329      You know what would be fun?
20:15 benrob0329      if all of the minetest Youtubers got together and did a giant livestream
20:15 Megaf           what?
20:17 Megaf           maybe
20:17 Megaf           Jordach, meh, he will never manage to put that back together
20:17 benrob0329      I might start doing mod previews, instead of reviews
20:18 benrob0329      Sort of like my mapgen cinematics, but for mods
21:12 benrob0329      ?
21:13 nerzhul         celeron55, on regulars can you link my GH profile like you did with nore please ?
21:15 celeron55       ok, done
21:15 nerzhul         ty
21:16 nerzhul         red-001, thanks you very much for your involvement helping us improving API in CSM :) i added the foundations you build a great part of the wall :)
21:16 Jordach         meow
21:19 Megaf           OldCoder banned? Seriously?
21:19 Megaf           Who banned him?
21:20 Megaf           celeron55,
21:20 red-001         banning oldcoder seems counter-productive
21:21 Megaf           precisely
21:21 red-001         and downright pointless when you consider that the channel is moderated
21:21 benrob0329      Banning anyone because of a previous dispute us counter productive
21:22 celeron55       i didn't ban him
21:22 benrob0329      we know, but who did?
21:22 celeron55       Shara did
21:22 Megaf           Shara, we have to talk
21:23 * red-001       is waiting for localplayer api
21:23 celeron55       OC said things that pretty much warranted it, but we've talked to him
21:23 VanessaE        the guy told me to go to hell...
21:23 VanessaE        (yes, I know, I don't have to go :P )
21:24 Megaf           VanessaE, did he? That's very not like him
21:24 sofar           VanessaE: there's a special place for you and me in hell ;)
21:24 TommyTreasure   wish people would stop telling people that.  i'm getting crowed out!
21:25 TommyTreasure   crowded, even
21:25 VanessaE        Megaf: indeed he did.  we had a discussion in /msg that went nowhere, but which amounted to me telling him that during that whole mess over the sneak elevators, he should have just sat down and shut up (not in so many words of course)
21:25 Megaf           aha, so he was provoked indeed
21:25 celeron55       that's the story with everyone and OC pretty much
21:25 VanessaE        sofar: oh no, when I die I'll end up going upstairs, because he'll be down there like "are you fucking kidding?  I ain't dealing with HER, go to heaven with her!" :)
21:26 Megaf           lol
21:26 benrob0329      Lol
21:26 red-001         lol
21:26 sofar           kek
21:26 VanessaE        Megaf: that private chat was long after the public discussion, so what actually provoked him, I'm still unsure.
21:26 sofar           now that everyone has had a cold shower, we can look at constructively solving the technical problems
21:27 VanessaE        sofar: when I wake each day, he says "oh shit, she's up!" :)
21:27 sofar           VanessaE: we need to talk about your relationship issues
21:27 VanessaE        heh
21:27 benrob0329      I'm married to the internet so...
21:27 red-001         lOl
21:33 * shivajiva     looks forward to an apology for trolling me recently
21:34 benrob0329      Who trolled you?
21:34 shivajiva       old news
21:35 red-001         april 1?
21:35 Sokomine        VanessaE: let's *all* go upstairs
21:39 Jordach         i prefer infinite life
21:43 rubenwardy      I haven't died yet
21:43 rubenwardy      ergo, I'm immortal
21:44 rubenwardy      I must be Michael Scofield
21:44 Shara           The ban was an 'until certain things got settled', which today apparently they did. It was not only my decision, and is actually a thing I'm glad to have ended.
21:48 Shara           And Megaf, you can always talk to me :P
21:51 sofar           let's get all philosophical and lose our jobs and work at Starbucks
21:52 * Jordach       dies laughing
21:52 Jordach         and i'm just watching ben heck livestream the repair of the nintendo playstation prototype
21:52 TommyTreasure   my gawd, i won't even use their restrooms
21:53 benrob0329      Nono, tim Hortons is bae
21:54 Jordach         >canadian faggotry
21:54 Jordach         dunkin donuts
21:54 Jordach         year of the rake when? i want to get rid of these leaves
21:58 Sokomine        Jordach: rl leaves or mt leaves?
21:58 Jordach         Sokomine, canadian posters are also known as leaves
21:59 Jordach         well, forum posters
21:59 Jordach         they often point out the obvious and get hell for it, or just use dead memes
21:59 benrob0329      hey, cabadians are my neighbors!
22:00 benrob0329      If I can type that is
22:00 Sokomine        Jordach: aaah. thanks for explaining!
22:00 benrob0329      Tbh, I'm north of Canada
22:01 * Sokomine      still hasn't caught up entirely with the forum
22:01 benrob0329      One of the things that comes with loving in michigan
22:01 benrob0329      Oh, I'm years behind
22:01 Jordach         is being a canadian in america
22:01 benrob0329      what?
22:01 Jordach         <benrob0329> Tbh, I'm north of Canada
22:02 benrob0329      How does that == to being Canadian
22:02 Jordach         anything north of USA is canad
22:02 benrob0329      who said I wad north of the us?
22:02 benrob0329      Canada is just south :-P
22:04 benrob0329      its confirmed
22:04 benrob0329      Nathan and ruben are one in the same
22:04 Jordach         *musical autistic screeching audibly heard*
22:05 Nathans21       And we, err, I am part of the illunimati
22:05 Jordach         then who was phone
22:05 rubenwardy      che passa
22:05 Fixer           everytime i start building i end up with this columns https://i.imgur.com/QssQZXK.png
22:05 benrob0329      oh gosh
22:05 Shara           Nathans21: you can't be unless I give the hat back.
22:06 benrob0329      they've found us!
22:06 benrob0329      Run for your lives!
22:06 benrob0329      Actually, into the tardis
22:06 Jordach         holy moly
22:06 Jordach         a game wrote for the nintendo playstation has a working game
22:06 Nathans21       Maybe I had two hats
22:07 * Shara         will have to rethink some things
22:07 Nathans21       No good Illuminati member can ever sever all ties
22:07 Jordach         benrob0329, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9w8nYeFcRg
22:08 benrob0329      *cleaning car*
22:08 benrob0329      *wifi signal is crap
22:09 benrob0329      *video doesn't load*
22:09 benrob0329      *Illuminati confirmed*
22:10 Fixer           *WE NEED DIAMOND SCREWDRIVER*
22:10 Fixer           i'm fed up with this shitty durability
22:10 Sokomine        Fixer: nice columns. build more houses of the same style and it can become a new village type
22:10 benrob0329      No, sonic screwdriver
22:10 Fixer           i need like 20 screwdrivers to just finish the house
22:11 Sokomine        the screwdriver ought to last indefinitely
22:11 Sokomine        Fixer: take my replacer if that's installed
22:11 Sokomine        the replacer is very useful if you want to place more than one node with the same texture and orientation
22:12 VanessaE        replacer works with colored nodes too doesn't it?
22:12 Fixer           Sokomine: i'm on mp server
22:13 Fixer           after watching countless letsplays @ still shitty houses
22:14 Sokomine        VanessaE: color is part of param2, isn't it? then it ought to work fine with the replacer as well
22:14 Sokomine        Fixer: tell the admin of the server to install my replacer mod :-) saves you countless screwdrivers
22:15 Fixer           smth is destroying my farming redo crops o_o
22:16 VanessaE        Sokomine: indeed it is.
22:17 Sokomine        on which server are you active?
22:17 VanessaE        so your mod works with colored blocks because of a bug ;)
22:17 Sokomine        VanessaE: sounds good then :-)
22:17 Sokomine        such "bugs" ought to remain :) we want better houses. not players driven crazy by collecting tons of innocent plants :)
22:17 Fixer           Sokomine: hometown
22:17 Sokomine        havn't heared of that one
22:18 VanessaE        heh
22:20 kaeza           greetings
22:24 Shara           Hi kaeza
22:33 VanessaE        greetz, kaeza
22:34 Megaf           my laptop gets pretty hot when I watch youtube videos
22:34 Megaf           not sure why
22:36 Megaf           it get warmer with nvidia driver than with nouveau
22:36 Megaf           weirdly
22:36 kaeza           greetings V
22:36 VanessaE        Megaf: no hardware video acceleration?
22:40 Megaf           GPU is at 108C right now
22:40 VanessaE        O_o
22:41 Megaf           VanessaE, it does have hardware acceleration
22:42 Megaf           MPEG1, MPEG2, H264, VC1, MPEG4, DIVX4, DIVX5, HEVC
22:43 Megaf           these are the things my GPU supports
22:43 Megaf           using vdpau
22:45 Megaf           downloading a 4k video 3840x2160, from youtube, lets see if I can play that
22:46 Megaf           Shara, Why you banned OldCoder here if he dont even know this channel exists?
22:47 VanessaE        I imagine he could find out easily enough
22:50 Megaf           VanessaE, my GPU can even play this 4k video
22:50 Megaf           problems is on youtube itself, as usual
22:53 Shara           Megaf: I already answered, and some things aren't really for public chat.
23:00 Sokomine        ah. i now see some of that unwelcome baby-roleplaying going on :-(
23:00 Sokomine        hadn't seen that before
23:01 VanessaE        Sokomine: where at this time?
23:01 VanessaE        (and now you see why it's forbidden on many servers including mine)
23:06 TommyTreasure   where there are children on the net sadly, there will be predators.
23:06 VanessaE        TommyTreasure: indeed so, but in this case it's just roleplay crap, which just annoys players
23:07 VanessaE        you wanna roleplay, go play Second Life or Sims or something.
23:07 TommyTreasure   if its the 'i need a daddy' thing, i wouldn't just call it an annoyance
23:07 VanessaE        trust me.  it is.
23:08 VanessaE        once is nothing, but when it happens over and over you're left with no choice but to ban it
23:08 VanessaE        diemartin can attest to that on my servers :-/
23:08 TommyTreasure   i kick on first offense, ban on 2nd
23:08 VanessaE        he has...seen things.  things too terrible to mention.
23:08 VanessaE        :P
23:08 diemartin       *shudder*
23:09 Sokomine        fixer: sorry. had to kill my client in order to regain control of my machine. that happened quite frequently recently :-(
23:09 Fixer           Sokomine: 32 bit?
23:09 Sokomine        VanessaE: was on that hometown server. the server seems to have very nice buildings around spawn
23:09 Sokomine        well, some roleplay could be ok, but.........
23:10 VanessaE        it escalates FAST.
23:10 benrob0329      itd need to be Doctor Who roleplay :P
23:10 TommyTreasure   lol
23:10 Sokomine        VanessaE: that sounds very dangerous! perhaps my client decided for me to leave due to that :)
23:10 * benrob0329    runs Linux 4.10
23:10 Sokomine        Fixer: ought to be 64 bit
23:11 Fixer           Sokomine: make sure you have enough ram and everything 64bit os/minetest
23:11 Sokomine        hmm. in theory i have
23:12 Megaf           Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Debian 9.0 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8600  @ 2.40GHz (2.39GHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.5 GiB Total (953.8 MiB Free) Swap: 1.9 GiB Total (979.1 MiB Free) • Storage: 23.9 GB / 43.8 GB (19.8 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation MCP89 [GeForce 320M] @ NVIDIA Corporation MCP89 HOST Bridge • Uptime: 2d 15h 47m 16s
23:12 Megaf           oh, doesnt show kernel version
23:12 Fixer           Megaf: craptop
23:12 Megaf           Fixer, buy me a new one then
23:12 benrob0329      how long does one needs to be here before making it onto the regulars list?
23:13 rubenwardy      Client: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Ubuntu "yakkety" 16.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz (2.20GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (4.4 GiB Free) Swap: 7.7 GiB Total (7.7 GiB Free) • Storage: 175.8 GB / 245.6 GB (69.8 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 @ Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Host Bridge -OPI • Uptime: 4h 37m 19s
23:13 benrob0329      Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ArchLinux • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz (526MHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (6.6 GiB Free) Swap: 7.5 GiB Total (7.5 GiB Free) • Storage: 40.3 GB / 258.1 GB (217.8 GB Free) • VGA: 8086:5916 @ 8086:5904 • Uptime: 8m 11s
23:13 Fixer           Intel Core i3 2120 @ 3.3GHz , Mem: 8 GB , AMD HD6870 1GB, 1250GB HDDs, Win7 sp1+
23:13 TommyTreasure   TI 99A
23:13 benrob0329      4/a
23:14 rubenwardy      that lies, mine's clocked at 2.6 GHz
23:14 TommyTreasure   details, details!  lol
23:14 rubenwardy      *2.7
23:14 * benrob0329    owns a Ti 99 4/a
23:14 TommyTreasure   got rid of mine when i saw how expensive the expansion box was
23:15 Sokomine        i've still got a celeron g1610 (not that atom-branch) with 8 gb. that ought to be enough....
23:15 benrob0329      yeah, i havent done anything with mine
23:15 benrob0329      i own 2 games, everything is just too darn expensive to buy!
23:15 TommyTreasure   my winxp lappy seems to run m/t ok.  and its a 10 y/o machine
23:16 Sokomine        no extra graphics card here :-) the poor celeron (er, not that celereon...the cpu :)) has to do all the work with its igp
23:16 benrob0329      I somehow managed to get a hold of mine as new/old stock for a reasonable price
23:16 benrob0329      and then i opened it
23:16 benrob0329      (Colloectors may faint now)
23:17 Fixer           Sokomine: not enough for minetest
23:17 TommyTreasure   finally ended up with a c64
23:17 Sokomine        er, why not?
23:17 Fixer           Sokomine: minetest likes core i7 + something like nvidia 10XX GTX card
23:17 VanessaE        what's wrong with the c64? :)
23:17 TommyTreasure   sad day when i donated all my c-stuff
23:17 benrob0329      id probably buy an Atari if i were to buy another vintage computer
23:17 benrob0329      or an IBM
23:17 rubenwardy      Fixer: minetest runs at 60fps
23:17 Fixer           VanessaE: i have no c64, this is wrong :trollface:
23:18 rubenwardy      for me, and Sokomine's specs are higher than mine (it seems)
23:18 Fixer           rubenwardy: at vrange?
23:18 rubenwardy      default
23:18 * benrob0329    thinks about buying an IBM, and putting BSD on it...
23:18 Fixer           i play with 160
23:18 Fixer           i have 100+ on default scenery
23:18 Fixer           but if it gets heavy, it can go down a lot
23:18 Fixer           like any big spawn
23:19 Sokomine        core i7 would be better, yes, but not that much faster. a graphics card might speed things up, but it's also loud and consumes energy. the system is far too slow for mc but runs mt quite well most of the time. i think these crashes have other reasons
23:19 benrob0329      i can play with 150-200 in a non laggy world, but like on VE servers i have to have it at like 50
23:19 Fixer           in singleplayer I have vrange 160-240 and have 100+ fps easily
23:20 Sokomine        rubenwardy: mine does 2.6 ghz only as well. your core seems to be a mobile one? also those mobile isomethings tend to have better gpus than the cheap desktop versions like i have
23:21 rubenwardy      laptop, but yeah
23:21 Sokomine        it's so wonderfully easy to cool, quiet and low on energy consumption :-)
23:21 Fixer           my core i3 is desktop one
23:21 rubenwardy      the U in the name means laptop (underclocked?)
23:21 Fixer           U means mobile for sure
23:21 Fixer           for mobile use
23:22 benrob0329      i5 and all intel laptop is nice
23:22 rubenwardy      ordering to the intel website, U means Ultra-low power
23:22 Fixer           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLUjUZi4VLA never finished that game 15-20 years ago...
23:23 rubenwardy      yeah, M is for mobile not U - i7-5960MQ
23:24 rubenwardy      although U may have just superseded U
23:24 rubenwardy      *U, M
23:24 Fixer           https://i.imgur.com/9MD4upQ.png
23:24 benrob0329      kek
23:26 Megaf           I wonder if I can overclock my CPU
23:26 Fixer           rubenwardy: you have not seen how minetest runs on Pentium M 2.1GHz + integrated o o o 5 fps on default settings
23:27 Megaf           why noon is called noon, after noon called afternoon and before noon called morning?
23:27 rubenwardy      my brother has a low spec celeron, runs at 1-5fps
23:28 benrob0329      why is seperate all together, and all together seperate?
23:28 Fixer           rubenwardy: blame shaders, turn off shaders and make vrange 50 it now can into 40 fps
23:28 Fixer           benrob0329: can you poop while running? /music plays
23:28 rubenwardy      that's without shaders
23:28 Sokomine        rubenwardy: old one? or an atom-based one?
23:29 rubenwardy      not sure
23:29 Fixer           o___O
23:29 rubenwardy      it was a ~£200 laptop from fecking PCWorld
23:29 Jordach         benrob0329-phone, then who was phone
23:29 benrob0329      Fixer: Why is the sun called the sun? /music plays
23:29 Fixer           who even buys atom?
23:30 benrob0329      Eve does
23:30 Fixer           wonder if minetest runs on GeForce 2MX
23:31 benrob0329      IBM PC?
23:32 sofar           I've got an atom server here in the office
23:33 sofar           pretty neat system
23:33 sofar           would make a great minetest server if I could take it home :)
23:33 sofar           4-core 8-thread
23:33 sofar           2.40ghz
23:33 sofar           5 ethernet ports (gigabit)
23:33 VanessaE        wait what?
23:33 VanessaE        2.4 GHz ATOM??
23:33 sofar           model name	: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU  C2750  @ 2.40GHz
23:34 VanessaE        I thought those things only went at like half that speed
23:34 nore            sofar: open it, take the motherboard and close it, no one will see anything :)
23:34 sofar           8g ram, too
23:34 Fixer           nore: intel shutdown in 1000 years @ missing motherboard discovered
23:37 sofar           avoton01 ~ $ minetestserver
23:37 sofar           2017-04-05 23:36:35: ACTION[Main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.0:30000.
23:39 Fixer           https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8qd7P-XUAAY8pb.jpg:large
23:40 sofar           plays just fine
23:40 sofar           sweet, office minetest server :D
23:40 benrob0329      Minetest: but its on a vax cabinet
23:42 TommyTreasure   all offices should have a minetest server running
23:42 benrob0329      indeed
23:42 sofar           100k employees
23:42 sofar           on me minetest server
23:43 TommyTreasure   ok, 1000 minetest servers
23:43 benrob0329      if nothing else, you can grab a virtual cup of coffie
23:43 benrob0329      Minetest stress test :D
23:43 TommyTreasure   bet sick days would be fewer
23:44 benrob0329      oh, and you have after hours building contests
23:47 Fixer           build underwater glass tunnel and also add some torches/doors around in water @ sick days increase because of epilepsy
23:48 Fixer           gn
23:48 benrob0329      gn as in gnight?
23:49 Fixer           good night
23:49 benrob0329      gnight
23:49 Fixer           Asus EEE pc was atom, right?
23:49 Fixer           nevermind, good night
23:51 benrob0329      who manages the AUR minetest-git package?
23:54 * benrob0329    wishes the aur package build with multiple cores