Time Nick Message 00:13 rubenwardy Jordach: I can't see anything on your server 00:13 Jordach rubenwardy, /intro_warp 00:16 rubenwardy Jordach: http://pasteboard.co/R1AcLBUmo.png 00:16 Jordach rubenwardy, it's a silly bug i left in 00:16 Jordach leaving beds stays like that until you move 00:16 Jordach (highly likely) 00:22 paramat i keep typing 'map_meat.txt' =/ 00:22 Jordach he 00:22 Jordach he 00:23 * Jordach is doing botanical research 00:28 TommyTreasure it certainly is the correct time of year for that (northern hemisphere) 00:29 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/Solar_Plains/issues/6 ^ 08:44 Shara Good morning 08:47 shivajiva Morning 08:47 Amaz Hello :) 10:51 Shara Hi Megaf 10:52 * Megaf roars 10:52 Shara Welcome to the hub, roary tiger :) 10:52 shivajiva Hi Megaf :) 10:55 Shara Hi Zeno` :) 10:56 Zeno` hi 10:58 shivajiva welcome :) 11:13 Jordach meow 11:13 Jordach hehe 11:14 Jordach server hasn't crashed all night 11:14 Shara Jordach: Meow! 11:16 Shara I need to spy again soon. 11:16 Shara I need more spare time! :( 11:34 * Jordach loves the handy calendar date system 11:34 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/P4IFbd2.png 11:34 * Shara wants the trees 11:35 Shara Or well, kind of always wanted cherry trees 11:42 * CWz transforms Shara into a tree 11:44 * Shara shakes leaves at CWz 11:58 * Jordach panic() 11:59 Jordach >kills updated comment on issue #6 11:59 Jordach >reloads chrome 11:59 Jordach >hopes on ctrl + shift + t 11:59 Jordach >it's there 12:17 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/3BWHgpo.png omg 12:19 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/wNzsEuS.png wtf is that... that russian is very strange 12:19 Fixer like neural networks + ads 12:23 nerzhul hi Zeno` 12:46 Shara Fixer: If I try to read that my head will explode. 12:46 Shara Hi RobbieF :) 12:47 Fixer Shara: it is random latters and a ad spam at the end of the message 12:48 RobbieF Hey there Shara 12:48 RobbieF Hope you had a nice weekend! 12:48 Shara Reading any russian, even when I can understand it, makes my head explode 12:50 Fixer slavic languages are like that 12:51 Fixer Shara: try hungarian 12:52 Shara Fixer: Yes, I recall that the word for a swan sounds like a sneeze, and that you need to be completely sober if you hope to say 'cheers' correctly (and not sober to dare to attempt it) 12:54 Fixer https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyar_nyelv 12:57 * Shara suffers instant death by hungarian 13:00 Shara Fixer: I have relatives there and used to visit there most summers. So I heard a lot of hungarian. 13:32 Megaf Wild tiger joins the chat 13:50 benrob0329 Hello 13:57 benrob0329 (Offtopic, but cool) https://youtu.be/VKCFDBPvJ74 13:58 Megaf !title 13:58 * Megaf looks at 13:58 Megaf nobody 13:58 * Shara feels lack of bot 14:00 benrob0329 Its on why the power symbol (and consequently, almost all electronic symbols) came to be 14:01 benrob0329 Come to find out, the mac command key symbol is actually part of a standard 14:05 benrob0329 Does this fully replace -project? 14:05 benrob0329 Like, can I remove -project from my autojoin list? 14:06 sfan5 in theory yes 14:06 Jordach lmao 14:06 shivajiva xD 14:06 * Jordach 's Technics BTFO a Logitech woofer 14:17 RobbieF benrob0329 way back in the day you were looking to do equirectangular view in Minetest, right? Any success ever establishing that? 14:18 RobbieF (I think that was you?) 14:20 * benrob0329 grabs a dictionary 14:20 RobbieF 360 video benrob0329 14:20 benrob0329 Ah, yes 14:20 benrob0329 No 14:20 RobbieF That's what the lay people call it 14:20 RobbieF lol 14:20 RobbieF hmm, I thought that was you. Oh well. 14:21 benrob0329 it was me 14:21 RobbieF oh 14:21 RobbieF lol 14:21 RobbieF okay then 14:21 RobbieF so no luck then. 14:21 RobbieF It is well needed... 14:21 benrob0329 unfortunately, no 14:21 RobbieF Really would be a standout feature for sure. 14:21 RobbieF if spherical video output would be amazing. 14:22 RobbieF or full equirectangular. 14:22 RobbieF Then, I'd make The Pixel Shadow a 360 experience. 14:22 RobbieF but alas... 14:22 RobbieF So I'm thinking maybe I'll just do 180 degree (since it's supported) and then make it so you can look left and right while viewing. 14:23 benrob0329 If there was a way to link players together in a smooth way, you could use a 90 degree fov and stitch it together 14:23 RobbieF neah, it's not possible. 14:23 RobbieF the slightest lag on one or the other and you're doomed 14:23 RobbieF the two players would have to be SO exactly synced. 14:24 RobbieF The only "real" option here would be if Minetest itself could be run in equirectangular view. 14:25 benrob0329 I think that's difficult with irrlicht 14:25 RobbieF :( 14:25 RobbieF hehe 14:25 RobbieF well, we can dream. 14:25 RobbieF for now, Minetest doesn't work on my goggles. 14:28 benrob0329 I have realised that Minecraft has a lot of little things that make it feel more alive 14:28 benrob0329 For eg, smoke from a torch 14:29 benrob0329 or a 3d lock on a chest 14:29 Jordach benrob0329, Solar Plains CSM is already working on that 14:30 RobbieF yeah for sure benrob0329 14:30 Shara fake_fire already does smoke, as does my fire mod, but it could certainly be better 14:30 RobbieF For me it's the lens flares from the sun that make me nerdgasm over minecraft vs. minetest :D 14:30 Shara Personally I'd kill for a really good weather mod 14:30 RobbieF I like shaders... what can I say? 14:30 RobbieF and YES re. weather 14:31 Shara weather + good water shaders and I'd just.... I don't know. But I'd just something 14:31 benrob0329 A world-wide particle effect would be handy 14:31 Shara I tried to mess about with water shaders once already but really got nowhere 14:33 Shara Moving skyboxes is the other thing 14:33 benrob0329 I think a lot of us have tbh 14:33 Shara It's great that we can switch out the sun/moon, but I'd like to be able to change the sky and still have a moving sun/moon 14:34 benrob0329 yeah, that'd be handy too 14:34 benrob0329 Perhaps if particle spawners could be scaled? 14:35 benrob0329 Then you'd have a single spawner per mapblock 14:35 * Shara quietly inserts some moans about coloured lighting and then find sa hole to crawl into 14:35 benrob0329 Colored lighting would be hard 14:36 Shara That's why my moan about it is quiet :) 14:36 benrob0329 entity shadows 14:37 benrob0329 Could just be a shader 14:38 benrob0329 A 32x32 default texture pack might help 14:39 Fixer reproduced the bug on one more build 14:40 benrob0329 Grass occasionally growing taller 14:46 benrob0329 Having dropped items do something other than just spin might help 14:47 * benrob0329 is just throwing things out that he sees 14:47 benrob0329 I'm watching a freinds mc lp 14:48 benrob0329 Custom fonts 14:48 benrob0329 And a pixely one for mtg 14:49 Shara Please no ughy hard to read fonts 14:49 benrob0329 Not ugly 14:49 benrob0329 Jusy enough to hint at it 14:49 Shara ughy and ugly are different :P 14:49 Shara Some people find the slightest change from a 'normal font' difficult to read 14:50 benrob0329 Jordach: when night skip happens, speed up time 14:50 benrob0329 that'd make it look a lok better 14:50 benrob0329 *lot 14:50 * Shara goes back to thinking about things to do with skyboxes 14:53 benrob0329 If we can polish a lot of the small things, minetest would look a lot better 14:55 benrob0329 If only selection boxes could animate.. 14:55 shivajiva benrob you're correct lots of small things add up to a polished look and feel, probably not as prioritised as fixing bugs at this stage though 14:55 benrob0329 Then we could have it move with the dropped item 14:56 benrob0329 I'm willing to help, ofc 14:56 shivajiva :) 14:56 benrob0329 I can help with things on luu side, unfortunately I can't when it comes to c++ 14:56 benrob0329 *lua 14:57 benrob0329 As well as meshes 14:57 benrob0329 And animations 14:57 shivajiva good to know 14:58 benrob0329 (Animations are not my strong suit, but I can do them) 14:58 benrob0329 Is there a way to make boads client side? 14:59 benrob0329 *boats 15:00 shivajiva Idk, I need to start looking at csm 15:02 benrob0329 Perhaps if there was a way to have a 3d hud element (which would double as a way to make nice looking maps) 15:03 benrob0329 What if boats were attached to the player? 15:03 benrob0329 And the player had mobified physics? 15:03 benrob0329 *modified 15:04 benrob0329 If there a float physics override? 15:05 shivajiva hi ruben, again I don't know benrob but someone here will 15:05 * benrob0329 thinks about adding a paddleing animation 15:06 WhoAreYou Hello all. How's everyone? :) 15:06 benrob0329 Good 15:07 shivajiva WAY! 15:07 shivajiva Good to see you :D 15:08 WhoAreYou Thanks shiva. :) 15:24 benrob0329 An ambiance api for the csm would be awesome 15:38 benrob0329 How dificult would is be to add an ambiance table to nodedef? 15:39 shivajiva tenplus was discussing sounds with c55 with regard to adding them like textures 15:39 rubenwardy benrob0329: trivial 15:39 rubenwardy what's difficult is playing those ambient sounds 15:40 benrob0329 The client could play them 15:40 benrob0329 probably per mapchunk 15:41 benrob0329 take the node that there is the most of, and see if it has and ambiance in common with the next one down 15:42 benrob0329 if it does, play it 15:42 benrob0329 Is there are multiple in common, go down on the list 15:43 benrob0329 And if all else fails choose one from the slimmed down list at random 15:43 benrob0329 Or it could be a radius 15:44 benrob0329 It would be cool if it could change when you enter a building, but that may be difficult 15:45 nerzhul benrob0329: you don't need meta if you use CSM because you already know which node is around 15:45 benrob0329 Not meta, nodedef 15:45 benrob0329 It would be defined per node 15:45 nerzhul and you can have a client side property map 15:46 benrob0329 Yes, but then the mod has to have knowledge of all nodes 15:46 benrob0329 Rather than all nodes giving knowledge to the mod 15:48 benrob0329 rubenwardy: could an ambiance table be added, and get_ambiance with it? 15:48 benrob0329 Id love to try my hand at an ambiance mode client side 15:49 nerzhul yes, it can be nice, and lightweight because mods can populate it server side and client if he has mod can read it and do something with it, but it's a wrong way i think, i think you don't need server side informations for this 15:50 benrob0329 If its in nodedef you don't have to add any funky apis 15:50 sofar I'd code ambiance as node sounds, just code local node -> sound tables 15:50 Fixer why can't you play sounds via engine? 15:51 sofar the problem is that not all the bits are in place yet to do this 15:51 benrob0329 that's even worse, then every node will want to play a sound! 15:51 sofar Fixer: you can, but it's slow 15:51 red-001 you should be able to get most of the nodedef data 15:51 benrob0329 And ambiance shouldn't be connected to the world 15:51 sofar benrob0329: that's if you do it dumb 15:51 red-001 since thats sent to the client by the server 15:51 red-001 but you can't get custom nodedef data 15:51 sofar ambiance shouldn't be playing on servers where sounds are part of the game experience 15:52 sofar so ambiance needs to know about the world 15:52 sofar what if you have a steampunk server, and now your ambiance is playing "Enya" 15:52 sofar but your steampunk server is playing "Rammstein" 15:53 nerzhul benrob0329: if server sent information about sounds to client, CSM is not needed in fact... the objective to CSM is that you should have this information purely client side :) 15:53 sofar (at the same time) 15:53 benrob0329 then the ambiance would choose from a sound in the nodedef 15:53 sofar there needs to be some collusion 15:53 benrob0329 Which would be moddified 15:54 sofar the best thing would be for the server to *communicate*, not to randomly set nodedefs 15:54 benrob0329 Why make it so that the ambiance mod has to have everything pre defined in the mod itself? 15:54 sofar even better if the client doesn't have random mods, but we get some from the server 15:54 benrob0329 Right 15:55 benrob0329 or ambiance is eventually put into the enginr 15:55 benrob0329 Thus why you'd want it to be in nodedef 15:57 sofar putting stuff in the nodedef would make more complex things harder 15:59 benrob0329 Such as? 16:00 sofar well for starters, you'd have to scan every nodedef for every node just to figure out which ones need special sounds 16:01 sofar but more importantly, it's the wrong angle 16:01 sofar CSM sounds are about the *local* player 16:01 sofar so whatever you do, it should be focussing on the position of the local player in the world 16:02 sofar so a logical approach isn't to look at all the blocks in the world 16:02 sofar it's just to look at the nodes around the local player position 16:02 sofar and right now: 16:02 sofar 1) CSM doesn't have local player object handle, and no getpos() 16:02 sofar 2) sounds can't be played positional in CSM 16:03 sofar both are known bugs 16:03 benrob0329 ambiance shouldn't be positional 16:03 sofar dripping water? torch sounds? 16:03 sofar yes, it should be 16:03 benrob0329 Those yes 16:03 sofar better fire sounds? 16:03 benrob0329 I'm talking ambiant music 16:04 sofar just do music server side 16:04 sofar there's no benefit to doing it client side, almost 16:04 benrob0329 when I say ambiant sounds, I mean water etc, when I say ambiance in general, i probably mean music 16:05 benrob0329 The server then has to scan every node around the client for every client 16:05 benrob0329 Thus why I didn't want to do it server side 16:05 sofar but your music plays for how long? minutes at end? 16:05 benrob0329 not always 16:05 benrob0329 It woukd change as the player moves 16:06 sofar imho music in MT is kind of silly 16:06 sofar it's going to be wrong pretty often 16:06 benrob0329 maybe, maybe not 16:06 benrob0329 thus the logic I purposed 16:06 sofar plus CSM music is going to be terrible 16:06 sofar imagine you're playing CTF 16:06 sofar and now enya plays again 16:07 sofar just because there's a cute flower on the ctf map :) 16:07 sofar your team is getting murdered, blood everywhere 16:07 sofar and that damn flute harmony 16:07 sofar music should be a subgame specified thing 16:08 sofar all sounds, for that matter 16:09 sofar anyway, I just coded up a nice algorithm for torch, fire, water etc. sounds earlier this week 16:09 sofar I'll port it to CSM when the two bugs mentioned above get fixed 16:11 benrob0329 Thus why I said to have it in nodedef 16:11 benrob0329 And one flower wouldn't change the music 16:12 benrob0329 It would take all nodes into account 16:13 red-001 benrob0329, that would be really expensive to compute all the time 16:14 sofar I'm not so sure 16:14 sofar I can do it server side pretty cheaply 16:14 sofar and there I'm doing it for all players 16:15 red-001 I might be wrong then 16:16 benrob0329 If its in nodedef, it could be moved to c++ eventually as well 16:16 benrob0329 As then its already an api 16:17 red-001 the issue with a nodedefs is that you would need to add a new field to nodedefs on the c++ side of things 16:17 red-001 which will only be used by lua code 16:18 red-001 iirc, I could be wrong about the way nodedefs work 16:18 benrob0329 but then it could be written in lua, and moved to c++ 16:18 benrob0329 Once the logic was right 16:19 red-001 it just feels like bad design 16:33 benrob0329 I suppose the api could be faked in lua 16:37 Fixer silver sandstone is excellent for walls: https://i.imgur.com/UbKSOBG.png 16:43 TommyTreasure +1 on silver sandstone 16:47 Fixer plasmalamp is not animated in krocks debug build.... 16:48 VanessaE Fixer: plasmalamp needs a new drawtype/model anyway. using framedglass drawtype sucks 16:57 Fixer oh, catching fps drop bug in debug build is gonna be tough 17:12 Krock hello everyone 17:13 benrob0329-phone Hi krock 17:14 Krock new video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMyqQWcAuKM 17:15 benrob0329-phone I'm not even maf 17:15 benrob0329-phone *mad 17:16 Krock it's a good video. He's almost smoothmcgroove with kazoo 17:20 benrob0329-phone https://youtu.be/CZlfbep2LdU 17:23 Shara Hi Krock 17:25 Krock hello Shara :) 17:27 benrob0329-phone When kazoo kid grows up: https://youtu.be/-Sb1GtrajwQ 17:37 TommyTreasure Krock, just have to post the first on facebook! 17:38 Krock TommyTreasure, facebook? that thing that was a thing some years ago? 17:40 TommyTreasure i'm a semi-retired musician, and one of the groups i was with had a female vocalist that was pretty darn good on the kazoo. just my way to let her know i'm thinking of her. lol 17:48 * CWz is trying to figure out what's the difference between seeking justice and seeking revenge 17:50 TommyTreasure same thing, except justice is legal 17:51 TommyTreasure kind of like the difference between cops and criminals. cops just haven't been caught. 17:52 benrob0329-phone Wut 17:53 TommyTreasure lol 17:53 CWz yes but whats the difference between a cop, police officer and an officer of the law? 17:54 TommyTreasure personal taste in donuts? 17:54 CWz i think so. 17:56 Shara Annnnd.... someone said the d-word again! 17:56 Shara I really need to go and buy some :) 17:56 TommyTreasure sorry :) 17:59 Jordach Shara, where do you live 17:59 Jordach lmao 18:00 Shara Jordach: Clearly not close enough to doughnuts. 18:01 TommyTreasure good thing i didn't say chocolate strawberry cheesecake 18:05 shivajiva NY baked vanilla cheesecake anyone, it's on it's last day so help yourselves :) 18:06 shivajiva pot of cream is in the fridge if reqd. 18:07 benrob0329-phone I prefer chocolate ice cream cake myself 18:07 TommyTreasure i'll be right over 18:08 benrob0329-phone Tbh I might be closest to NYC XD 18:08 benrob0329-phone Being in Michigan and all 18:08 TommyTreasure no prob, i walk fast 18:08 benrob0329-phone XD 18:09 TommyTreasure and in a few hours, i may be just toasted enough to try! 18:09 benrob0329-phone Can you swim fast though? 18:09 shivajiva you may have to cross an ocean for it tommy if ur not in the UK 18:09 TommyTreasure no prob, i have a rowboa 18:09 TommyTreasure rowboat, even 18:10 shivajiva see you in 3 months XD 18:10 benrob0329-phone just use a tardis 18:10 TommyTreasure exactly! 18:10 benrob0329-phone Or a travelnet 18:10 TommyTreasure needs coords 18:11 benrob0329-phone Long/Lat should work 18:11 benrob0329-phone Do you know how to fly one? 18:11 TommyTreasure fly one? not today. today is dedicated to tie one, as in tie one on 18:12 benrob0329-phone http://doctorwho.answers.wikia.com/wiki/How_do_you_fly_the_tardis 18:12 benrob0329-phone There 18:13 benrob0329-phone Since nobody seems to keep the manual 18:13 TommyTreasure sure wish they'd find someone with the lost episodes 18:13 benrob0329-phone that'd be nice 18:13 benrob0329-phone But keeping new who alive might be more important 18:14 shivajiva heh someone from the bbc will have them in their attic 18:15 benrob0329-phone Just like, "oh that's where those went" 18:15 TommyTreasure from what i read, most of the originals were destroyed :( 18:16 benrob0329-phone I just want bbc to restore and rerelease what we have now 18:16 benrob0329-phone Some of the dvd prices are outrageous 18:17 shivajiva it's a hard premise to swallow given the amount of engineers around, we love collecting souvenirs, copies etc 18:18 TommyTreasure but those people would have to admit they stole them 18:19 benrob0329-phone At this point, who would care? 18:20 benrob0329-phone They helped DW survive 18:20 shivajiva kept them for safekeeping would seem an appropriate defence at this point 18:21 benrob0329-phone Or they could sneak them into the office 18:32 * Fixer looks at trackers 18:33 Fixer 280 GB download, okay 18:38 benrob0329-phone You know your a geek when your reading the tardis technical index 18:38 benrob0329-phone Another danger involves the relativity circuit of the temporal balancing governor. If the default temporal recursion algorithms of this circuit and the back-up circuits are disrupted the TARDIS will accelerate backwards in time at a tremendous rate. The TARDIS must be brought under control using the velocity override before the speed exceeds six and a half googol years per metasecond or the ship will collide with Event One and be destroyed. 18:40 TommyTreasure of course, that theory has been fully tested 18:42 benrob0329-phone Too bad flighty things don't work so well in minetest 18:42 benrob0329-phone Or actual vortex flight could be done 18:45 benrob0329-phone Well, I suppose it could be done 18:49 Shara Anyone else seeing a sudden increase in names followed by three numbers on servers? 18:49 Shara I guess it's another 'Sadie' client. 18:49 TommyTreasure yes, and what looks like random names. most seem to time out though 18:50 TommyTreasure is there a way to detect client id? 18:50 Shara My servers are being flooded by them 18:51 Shara Don't think so 18:52 nore Shara: is it a good or a bad thing though? 18:52 nore (I guess the use of "flooded" means bad, but...) 18:54 Shara Well, they just time out 18:54 Shara So their presense is kind of pointless. 18:54 nore however, you could disallow names ending with 3 numbers 18:54 nore ah, yeah 18:54 nore those android clients again 18:54 Shara There is always the danger to catch some real players then 18:55 Shara Last time this happened, a couple of them did have more powerful devices and ended up as regulars for quite a while 18:56 nore ah, yeah 18:56 nore there should be a way to detect whether a client will time out 18:56 nore hmm 18:57 Shara My Creative server isn't the lightest. It's not really for mobile players. 18:57 Shara I don't mind those that can manage to play but... in general it's just a mess of constant joins and timeouts, which can put a bit of pressure on the server as well. 18:58 Shara Or at least it used to, until I started stealing space from RobbieF for remote media :P 19:00 TommyTreasure i was thinking of adding this. https://github.com/ShadowNinja/name_restrictions/blob/master/init.lua 19:13 Fixer this needs checking https://i.imgur.com/6Yf7tkP.png 19:15 Megaf_ Can we talk offtopic here? 19:15 * Megaf_ roars at Shara 19:15 tenplus1 hi folks 19:15 Megaf_ Hello eleven 19:16 tenplus1 hi Megaf 19:16 Megaf_ tenplus1, can we talk off topic in here? 19:16 tenplus1 yeah, am sure it's kewl :0 19:16 Megaf_ cool 19:16 Megaf_ so I just made one of the online tests 19:17 Megaf_ to see who/what you are 19:17 Megaf_ and this is the result, wait for it 19:17 Megaf_ "Easy on the eyes, you're not just another pretty face. You've got guts, grit, and drive. You're everywhere and anywhere help is needed. Sweet and tenacious, you're a tough but fair leader." 19:17 tenplus1 so not what ice cream flavour you are :P? 19:18 Megaf_ http://brainfall.com/quizzes/whats-your-top-gun-call-sign/ 19:18 Megaf_ That's the test 19:19 * tenplus1 clicks 19:19 Megaf_ I'm Baywatch 19:19 tenplus1 it doesnt work 19:19 tenplus1 clicking an answer does nothing 19:20 tenplus1 lemmie try another browser 19:20 Shara Megaf_: off topic is mostly fine, just use common sense. If something important (like doughnuts!!) if under discussion, you should wait until that's dealt with first :P 19:20 Shara is* 19:20 tenplus1 hi shara 19:20 Megaf_ hm 19:21 Megaf_ well, I'm a bread baker, I bake bread. I love baking bread. 19:21 TommyTreasure jelly or creme filled? 19:21 * Megaf_ will not joke about donuts 19:21 tenplus1 bavarian cream :P 19:21 Megaf_ well played 19:21 Shara TommyTreasure: both :P 19:22 Shara Hi tenplus1 19:22 TommyTreasure << neither will he 19:22 tenplus1 hi tommy 19:22 TommyTreasure just need to find the correct wine to go with them 19:22 Megaf +1 19:22 TommyTreasure ^5s tenplus1 19:23 Megaf wow, it took me like 5 seconds to understand "^5s" 19:23 Megaf That's actually clever 19:23 TommyTreasure on the other hand, i will joke about wine, only because i really do enjoy the cheap stuff 19:23 * Shara spies on the spies who don't ask for voice, and wonders why they spy when there's a log anyway 19:24 Megaf I wonder how did they get here in the first place 19:24 Shara It's logged the same place the other official MT channels are 19:25 Megaf Ok, so I better not say that I'm dating that famous girl and that I got a job that pays me 400k pounds/year and that I live in Hawaii 19:26 Shara No, you better not :) 19:26 Megaf And tomorrow I will be going to the main Apple Store in San Francisco, on my private jet. To buy some new MacBook Pros to every single Minetest contributor. 19:27 Megaf all of them maxed out 19:27 TommyTreasure that one needs a meme 19:27 Megaf And will pay in cache, of course 19:27 tenplus1 Your "Top Gun" call sign is Vapor! - You're there, then gone, but you always leave something good behind. You're intellectual, lofty, and an abstract thinker. You float above others' heads, but you're warm, and always welcoming. 19:28 Megaf That's actually quite ncie 19:28 Megaf nice* 19:28 tenplus1 :P 19:28 Megaf tenplus1, let me guess, you chose the Tesla 19:28 tenplus1 nope 19:28 tenplus1 aston martin 19:28 Megaf it would be my second guess 19:29 Megaf I went for the Lambo 19:29 tenplus1 ehehe, am too practical for my own good :D 19:30 Megaf heh 19:31 Megaf this is my current desktop setup. http://i.imgur.com/CJQd6uz.png 19:31 Megaf (screenshot) 19:31 Megaf that is 19:31 tenplus1 Tigerrrrrrrrr 19:31 Megaf Of course 19:31 Shara Hmm, not sure what I think of my result to that quiz 19:32 Megaf Shara, would you share with us please? 19:32 Shara Your "Top Gun" call sign is Gangsta! 19:32 Shara >.> 19:32 tenplus1 :PPP 19:32 Megaf Shara, "You're bad to the bone, in a good way. You don't put up with anything, but you always put out ability and effort when needed. You believe respect is earned and take anyone who doesn't show it down a peg." 19:32 Megaf ^ = Gangsta 19:33 Shara Maybe it's not too far from the truth. 19:33 tenplus1 ehe 19:33 Megaf Shara, I actually think this quiz is spot on 19:35 Shara I will now spend the rest of the night wondering if I am bad or good 19:35 Megaf you are bad, in a good way, Shara 19:36 * Megaf listens to Bad To The Bone in his head 19:36 * Megaf sings 19:36 tenplus1 dangerzone here 19:36 Megaf I've chosen dangerzone too 19:36 * Megaf opens youtube to play danerzone 19:36 Megaf dangerzone* 19:37 Megaf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E 19:37 Megaf "Kenny Loggins - Danger Zone" ^ 19:37 Megaf Those Tomcats <3 19:38 * Megaf wonders if Shara'd seen whats his using as wallpaper 19:38 Shara It's the only suitable thing for you to use :P 19:39 Shara My own has a cat and a substancial amoutn of red :) 19:39 Shara amount* 19:39 WhoAreYou Your "Top Gun" call sign is Syndrome! You're opinionated and emotional - a phenomenon and a true force of nature. Impactful, thorough, and hard-hitting, you make your presence felt long after you're gone. 19:39 * WhoAreYou wasn't expecting that :) 19:39 Shara :D 19:39 Megaf WhoAreYou, well, now you know who we are and who you are yourself. 19:40 WhoAreYou You know nothing, heheheh. :) 19:40 Megaf WhoAreYou, now you are IKnowUs 19:41 Megaf eleven, are you into tigers too? 19:41 Megaf 10+1^ 19:41 tenplus1 tigers, nah... will show you my desky tho 19:41 Megaf you should definitely add highlights to eleven and 10+1 and 10p1 19:42 * RoaryTiger roars and goes to Shara 19:42 Shara :D 19:42 Shara RoaryTiger: msotly he needs them for 11 19:43 TommyTreasure i'd show mine, but my girlfriend would kill me 19:43 Shara mostly* 19:43 RoaryTiger TommyTreasure, is she here? 19:43 tenplus1 My Lubuntu 17.04 desktop: http://i68.tinypic.com/xds1hc.jpg 19:43 TommyTreasure no, but she's in my (almost) direct view. :) 19:44 RoaryTiger TommyTreasure, well, put it here anyways 19:44 sfan5 tenplus1: now you only need to start using a decent image hosting site 19:44 RoaryTiger I'm not surprised with your desktop 11 19:45 tenplus1 eheheh, my adblocker works great, tinypic is fast for me... imgurl sucks 19:45 Shara Or send the link 'just' for the image 19:45 RoaryTiger I had some hentai desktops when I was younger 19:45 rubenwardy pasteboard.co 19:45 RoaryTiger is there ads in that ting? 19:45 TommyTreasure i've done some stupid computer antics in my past, but this one stays! 19:45 tenplus1 that one is anime :P 19:45 sofar tinypic is blocked at my work 19:45 sfan5 tenplus1: despite an adblocker tinypic takes 2 seconds to load the image IF it loads at all 19:46 Shara sfan5: that's weird, because it loads instantly for me 19:46 sofar if my company blocks it... it's really not OK 19:47 * RoaryTiger will try to find his desktops with japanese like "cartoon" girls. 19:47 sfan5 nope it doesn't even load after the first time 19:47 Shara actually, on checkingit a second time, it seems broken 19:47 benrob0329-phone Hi ten 19:47 Shara checking it* 19:47 sfan5 now it works again 19:48 sfan5 tenplus1: also this isn't a thing of "i use an adblocks works for me" 19:48 sfan5 if you post links to ad-filled image hosters that don't even work properly nobody will want to look at your images 19:48 RoaryTiger tenplus1, I'm wait nerdier. https://www.flickr.com/photos/megaf/4689390166/in/dateposted/ 19:49 RoaryTiger "Uploaded on June 10, 2010" 19:49 tenplus1 lol, my meaning what that tinypic works well for me because of the adblock... it's faster than imgurl... only reason I use it 19:49 Fixer oh 19:49 Fixer tidyman 19:49 sfan5 just use imgur 19:49 Fixer tenplus1: here is something to check for you: https://i.imgur.com/6Yf7tkP.png / hometown server, probably farming redo, some crops got corrupted, probably by grass trying to grow over it (there were changes in mtg) 19:50 Fixer tenplus1: tinypic is ---------------------------------- slow 19:50 sofar well, not everyone can go to tinypic 19:50 Fixer tinypic is cancer 19:50 Fixer slow as cancer 19:50 Fixer has garbage on screen even with adblock 19:50 Fixer loads like it is hosted on mars 19:52 tenplus1 farming redo overrides default mod and uses it's own timers/abms... 19:53 benrob0329-phone Pretty fast for a marsion server 19:53 Fixer tenplus1: grass now grows on any soil iirc 19:54 Fixer i will check it in default mtg 19:54 Fixer tenplus1: for example grass will also spread to farmed land (as weed) 19:54 tenplus1 it spreads on top of any soil :) yeah, I do that in ethereal also 19:54 Fixer tenplus1: but why it is corrupted by smth? 19:55 Megaf https://www.flickr.com/photos/megaf/shares/SKgaL7 19:55 Megaf tenplus1, ^ 19:55 Fixer tenplus1: i literally replanted it few hours ago and some stuff is missing again 19:55 Fixer some crops 19:55 Fixer it was growing 19:55 Fixer now it is empty 19:55 Megaf back when Arch Linux was something decent (2009) 19:55 tenplus1 lol, nice megaf 19:55 Megaf That's running on my EeePC 701 19:56 tenplus1 what were the missing crops ? 19:56 tenplus1 which node 19:56 Fixer tenplus1: empty spaces on that pic 19:56 tenplus1 hi ben 19:57 tenplus1 yeah but what was in those empty spaces ???? seeds/crop??? 19:58 Fixer tenplus1: full grown crop 19:58 benrob0329 *opens back into holo irc* 19:59 Fixer tenplus1: wheat 19:59 benrob0329 *everything disconnected* 19:59 tenplus1 there's no reason that they should disappear... farming redo overrides default farming and keeps the same nodes... 19:59 Fixer tenplus1: i've replanted second time and it got emptied again in the process, i suspect nearby grass, pattern looks like grass sspread 19:59 tenplus1 checking 19:59 Fixer tenplus1: check newest mtg, it had changes 20:01 tenplus1 k, placed a field full of wheat... quick grey it to full then swapped to farming redo... it's all there and ok 20:06 Fixer tenplus1: you need to have some grass nearby and also wait before grass spreads 20:06 Fixer but not too much grass 20:06 Fixer clear all grass around the field and plant fresh grass that will spread 20:06 Fixer near field 20:07 tenplus1 but wait, grass shoudl only spread when an empty node is available on soil ? no ? 20:08 Fixer tenplus1: thats what we need to check :} 20:09 tenplus1 ethereal overrides grass spreading also... I never really use default tbh 20:09 tenplus1 always found my routine better 20:11 Megaf [20:49:13] tidyman 20:11 Megaf Did you say that to me? :) 20:11 Fixer no 20:12 Megaf oh 20:12 Megaf =( 20:12 * Megaf fails to get the context 20:12 * Megaf will write in bold. 20:13 Megaf Bold and red. 20:13 Megaf Does Minetest has a default colour? 20:14 Shara Well, I doubt it would be red :P 20:14 Megaf O l d s c h o o l t e x t. 20:15 * Megaf hides and gets quiet. 20:20 benrob0329 http://imgur.com/a/909KD 20:20 * benrob0329 goes back to badbsignal area 20:25 Shara Hi Darcidride 20:27 Darcidride Hi everyone 20:27 Darcidride Thanks for the invitation to the channel 20:27 tenplus1 hi Darcidride 20:27 Shara Would have voiced you sooner, but didn't know who you were :) 20:27 WhoAreYou Hello Darcidride. 20:27 shivajiva Hi Darcidride and welcome :) 20:27 WhoAreYou :) 20:28 Darcidride (yes sorry about that, my nickname is only MinetestForFun on inchranet :)) 20:29 tenplus1 wb ben 20:29 shivajiva the logs are linked in the title if you want to catch up 20:29 Shara No need for sorry - nice to have you with us. 20:30 Darcidride Thank you Shara 20:30 Sokomine shivajiva: quite tricky to catch up on the channel :-) there's a lot of talk 20:31 shivajiva hehe I suddenly got used it recently xD 20:31 Shara Yes, none of us know when to shut up around here :) 20:33 * benrob0329 readslogs 20:33 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhWx7WneKNA 20:33 benrob0329 tenplus1: https://youtu.be/TgWHcnzQeVs 20:35 shivajiva that's a good thing Sokomine it shows people are comfortable imo :) 20:35 tenplus1 115 likes so far... 20:36 Shara I just added #117 20:36 shivajiva 118 20:36 tenplus1 ehehe, might make 150 yet :D 20:36 tenplus1 thing is we got xanadu players thumbing his videos up and still never made it to 150... pah!!! 20:37 tenplus1 netted him 71 likes tho 20:37 Amaz That would be 119 now :) 20:37 WhoAreYou 120 20:37 tenplus1 w00t! 20:39 shivajiva mine was for the veggie option being included xD 20:40 tenplus1 the shroom steak :D 20:40 tenplus1 sounds tasty 20:40 benrob0329-phone XD 20:41 tenplus1 wednesday is my next day off Fixer, will look into grass spreading and farming issues then... 20:41 tenplus1 for now... nite all :) 20:41 Fixer gn 20:42 shivajiva I've never managed to catch 11 on the way out, he's way too fast 20:43 shivajiva lucky if you get 4 seconds lol 20:43 Shara He is way too quick 20:44 nore lol, that's why I always say good night 5 minutes before I actually turn off my computer :D 20:44 shivajiva we need a script to spam him gn from all of us 20:45 Shara I say good night, but then I guesss no one knows when I've actually left :D 20:45 shivajiva lurker 20:45 Shara So sometimes I sign in the next day to good nights. 20:45 nore Shara: well, I never leave the channel as well 20:46 Shara We shall both be lurkers then! 20:46 nore but you never know, things might get interesting suddenly (for instance someone may have a question they forgot to ask you) 20:47 Shara The problem when that happens, is I say good night but then might still be here two hours later 20:47 nore though, it's getting quite hard to read all the backlog, even worse than in #-project 20:47 nore ah yeah this happens to me too 20:47 Shara we're not too far behind -project in numbers now either 20:47 nore (and #-project I had already given up reading the whole backlog every day) 20:48 Shara I skim usually, but depends how bad it is 20:48 Shara And usually check for my name 20:48 nore yeah, I do that as well 20:49 benrob0329-phone I should have a bot that's always in the channel 20:49 benrob0329-phone And just notifies my if my name has been called 20:49 Shara skimming for me is just scrolling the length and picking up whatever I can in the speed it moves 20:49 Shara which is usually enough to tell me what's going on 20:51 Shara benrob0329-phone: bouncers are your friend. 20:51 benrob0329-phone Probably 20:55 Jordach Shara, well then 20:55 Jordach >sees about offtopic remark 20:55 Jordach i was having a cat nap 20:56 Shara Jordach: That's because you are a meow. 20:57 Shara Cat nap is only good nap of course. 21:00 WhoAreYou Ok, bye guys. :) 21:00 benrob0329-phone https://youtu.be/LQCeztRxwAo 21:00 benrob0329-phone Interesting 21:01 benrob0329-phone So the dalek mod travels through Minecraft history 21:01 benrob0329-phone Not server history 21:01 TommyTreasure can't help it, but when i see the words cat and course in the same sentence, all i can think about is a.l.f. 21:02 benrob0329-phone Traveling across minetest history couldn't be too hard 21:02 nore benrob0329-phone: I use weechat on a headless server to which I ssh, and I also have weechat-android in my phone which can connect to this instance 21:02 nore it works quite well, and you have a persistent session across several devices :) 21:02 benrob0329-phone id have to define a lot of extra nodes though 21:03 benrob0329-phone Interesting 21:03 benrob0329-phone I need to get a headless server myself 21:03 benrob0329-phone Probably one of my rpis 21:05 TommyTreasure << runs his game on headless server 21:05 Megaf Good night everybody 21:06 TommyTreasure g'nite Megaf 21:06 benrob0329-phone Gnight 21:07 benrob0329-phone Are there any early dev videos of minetest? 21:13 Shara Study more, or poke secret MT project? 21:13 Shara Someone help me decide? 21:13 benrob0329-phone https://youtu.be/nqttAvwnwBc 21:13 benrob0329-phone 7 fps! 21:13 nore Shara: secret MT project? :) 21:13 benrob0329-phone Also, we're still using that same stone texture.. 21:13 * nore would like to learn more about it 21:14 Shara Hehe. 21:14 Shara It's partly your fault, actually. 21:14 Shara Just to make it more mysterious :) 21:14 benrob0329-phone https://youtu.be/R7VE9akctEo 21:14 nore haha, I might have an idea what it is about 21:15 benrob0329-phone 0.1.14! 21:18 RobbieF FYI - we hit 120 likes - so BaldNerd is going to Xanadu! Help us promote them by giving a thumbs up on the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhWx7WneKNA 21:18 sofar mesecons will be moving to minetest-mods!!! 21:19 sofar now I just have to convince the technic folks :) 21:19 sofar gna 21:20 kaeza convince of what? :P 21:20 * kaeza read logs 21:21 sofar to move git repos to minetest-mods 21:21 kaeza ah 21:21 benrob0329-phone sofar: yes!! 21:21 sofar kaeza: jeija is moving mesecons to minetest-mods 21:21 benrob0329-phone Yay! Faster mesecons development! 21:21 benrob0329-phone Maybe 21:21 sofar not necessarily 21:22 sofar but, at least there will be an incentive for people to help 21:22 sofar since I work hard to keep minetest-mods PRs merging quickly 21:22 benrob0329-phone Single node pistons? 21:22 sofar I think I spend about an hour a week making sure PRs are not lingering in minetest-mods 21:23 sofar single node pistons? not sure that is a good thing 21:23 benrob0329-phone it'd preven glitched pistons like we have now 21:23 benrob0329-phone *prevent 21:23 kaeza sofar, that is great. I don't have objections to moving technic to mt-mods, but will let more active contributors decide 21:24 kaeza (that is great, re: mesecons) 21:24 benrob0329-phone Right now a piston can have its exdended bit pushed out of the way 21:24 benrob0329-phone Which is a problem 21:24 benrob0329-phone As they can't be mined 21:26 sofar I wonder if they can be attached somehow 21:26 RobbieF Night all. Hope you enjoy! 21:26 benrob0329-phone Gnight 21:27 benrob0329-phone I'm hoping to have the redstone single tick behavior in sticky pistons 21:27 benrob0329-phone (I did take a look at the piston code, it was...scary) 21:27 nore sofar: \o/ 21:28 nore and about moving technic: I'm for that as well, I don't know what's ShadowNinja's view on it though 21:29 sofar afk 21:29 kaeza SN ins't here? O.o 21:29 kaeza n>>1 21:29 Shara If people are missing, please send them invites. 21:30 benrob0329-phone Quick, spam SN with PMs! 21:31 kaeza Shara, sent a PM. can you +V ? 21:31 Shara Sure 21:31 Shara Done 21:33 kaeza calculon and epoch probably need +V too; they are regulars on other channels 21:35 kaeza sofar, we also have #minetest-technic if you are interested 21:35 red-001 I wonder what I should work on next for csm 21:35 benrob0329-phone Player objects 21:36 benrob0329-phone (Please) 21:36 red-001 somone is trying to get thier pr for that merged, so it would be rude of me 21:36 rubenwardy here is a list of people in #-project and not in #-hub: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/4fccee27e57f21376aebbe00c93bda5d 21:36 benrob0329-phone Potional audio? 21:36 rubenwardy atm 21:37 red-001 maybe 21:37 red-001 if I can add it without the local player object 21:38 benrob0329-phone If multiple nodes all play the same audio, is the audio in sync? 21:39 red-001 rubenwardy, btw I made a new pr that should address the code duplication in the node metadata referance in the previous pr 21:39 red-001 benrob0329-phone, not sure 21:45 nerzhul red-001, nice, it's not simple to prevent code dup, sometimes no choice 21:46 nerzhul for the localplayer PR it seems it's polishing 21:50 Shara kaeza: regulars of other channels doesn't mean they are contributors. 21:51 kaeza Shara, fair enough 21:55 Shara They can just give one of us a poke if they do want voice 22:29 benrob0329 Dang ssl errors 22:29 benrob0329 (Offtopic) https://youtu.be/ZSLnkyPSlEM 22:58 red-001 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8140 23:11 rubenwardy red-001, lol 23:13 rubenwardy !tell nerzhul https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/.travis.yml#L16-L18 23:30 rubenwardy paramat: sorting PRs by oldest gives a lot of old ones that could use bumping. Although probably shouldn't close them if they're useful for future implementations 23:32 paramat yes i do that sometimes, i just closed #2712 btw 23:32 rubenwardy would be nice to get below 140