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01:04 |
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<mark.wiemer> Gonna migrate the last four articles now 🙂 https://wiki.luanti.org/Objects https://wiki.luanti.org/Player https://wiki.luanti.org/Programs_and_Editors https://wiki.luanti.org/Punching |
01:06 |
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01:25 |
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<mark.wiemer> Is this still accurate? Â Players appear as 3D models similar to Minecraft. However, they never hold any blocks or items in hand and never look up or down. As of version 0.4.10, there is a third person view to see oneself. Press F7 to switch between camera modes. The pitch (vertical viewing angle) of a player is not visible to other players by default. The pitch of a player is between -89.5 and 89.5 degrees. |
01:26 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> The only relevant info there is the camera modes and the pitch limits |
01:26 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> Ugh, gonna leave this for now, we've never added inline images but this is better than nothing I think :/ |
01:26 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1334696289924939807/image.png?ex=679d7848&is=679c26c8&hm=0f05c0faa1770d3e9dd74604dd9410d37adc1a4a66dadc72712f4d658641bc33& |
01:27 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Debatable that can be removed |
01:27 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> While health is a builtin mechanism, it is often overridden |
01:27 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> changed to this |
01:27 |
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<mark.wiemer> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1334696650416984195/image.png?ex=679d789e&is=679c271e&hm=1dc5fc7e5b7d72ebf8fee27aeb08aa72d4e6473644737882577f87374f2e2e6f& |
01:28 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> generally we don't police content too much on migration, happy to revisit once it's actually merged |
01:57 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> lol something so ominous about this |
01:57 |
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<mark.wiemer> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1334704194954727505/image.png?ex=679d7fa5&is=679c2e25&hm=43060c734abda8509fb2843769349575a1ff6a1798f4803e81ce89ae1ab783a0& |
02:07 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> https://github.com/luanti-org/dev.luanti.org/pull/159 ready for review, importing the final 3 files! |
04:35 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> Looks like https://github.com/luanti-org/dev.luanti.org/issues/80 is next on the roadmap, feel free to update it with details as needed 🙂 |
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09:53 |
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<lemente> I don't have the time do that for now Remember that often teachers (and new users in general) need informations that might seem very basic to devs. Â But some pages are 100% trash. Except maybe the page title. |
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11:29 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> it's ok, there's no hurry. even if the wiki will be shut down soon I'll still be holding onto export backups of the content as it was |
11:30 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> merging https://github.com/luanti-org/dev.luanti.org/pull/159 in 10m |
16:28 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> this stuff should be nested under anything but edu tbh, and then linked from the edu page if neccessary tbh |
16:30 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> im updating the roadmap to include domain remain + wiki/dev rredirection to it, any objections? |
16:33 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> added, can remove if anyone screams i guess |
16:33 |
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<wsor4035> also unpinned the dev wiki issue since its closed |
16:35 |
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<wsor4035> @luatic re wiki.luanti.org, since roller has a backup, c55 will have the source still, worth moving ahead with domain repointing, or would you like to do something with that content first? |
16:47 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> Maybe we should add something to the about page saying "If you'd like to see the old wiki, go to this GitHub repo"? |
16:49 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> meh 🤷 |
16:50 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> Not much value having backups if readers don't know where to find them. A link on the site is a lot easier than the implied "make a forum post or Discord message asking about this and wait for someone to see it and share the link with you" |
16:52 |
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<wsor4035> the idea is anything of value should be migrated |
16:52 |
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<wsor4035> the old forum, etc arent linked to |
16:52 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> throwing the link in the comment of a few issues isnt a bad idea |
16:52 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> The question is whether the reader might disagree with our definition of "value". We are clearly saying "detailed docs of Minetest Game are excluded" where others might think "wait, my mod is based on MTG, I want to learn more about it" |
16:53 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> yes, i need to wiki to see how to craft x, because im to stupid to use the craft guide |
16:53 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> The old wiki had a different goal, it still answers some questions better than the new docs do |
16:54 |
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<mark.wiemer> I don't think we should insult our readers. Adding a link is very easy and will provide some value for some folks. I'm not sure what the problem is |
16:54 |
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<wsor4035> sarcasm aside, most of what is left on the wiki is craft pages. which are literally worthless. as a side note, people other than me should check the wiki to make sure i didnt miss anything when making the link |
16:54 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> Emphasis on "most" |
16:55 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> I would hope that the old wiki backups would include history, and you could just dump a final snapshot of the full wiki history somewhere, let people have access to everything that's been on there, and be done with it. |
16:56 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> Plus, some people might just want to know what the docs looked like in the past for historical purposes. Let's just link to the repo for that reason alone, to satisfy curiosity |
16:58 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> pretty much |
16:58 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> rollers has some history, c55 has the full picture |
16:58 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> i can not put something up right now |
16:59 |
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<luatic> i also can't really promise that i can do something with it soon |
17:00 |
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<wsor4035> its backed up, so can do whatever you want with it at some point, so would you be fine with us proceeding then? |
17:04 |
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<luatic> i won't mind much. however for the "average wiki user" these sites would become less accessible for now. i don't know how much that matters. |
17:05 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> would it be an option to have the old wiki live on, say, under old-wiki.luanti.org? is that possible with little effort on celeron's part? |
17:06 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> cc @rollerozxa, thoughts on us just making mtg.luanti.org, migrating non craft guide stuff to it? |
17:07 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> perhaps, dont really want slow/ancient site living on if we can help it |
17:15 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> I don't think we need to keep any old sites live, just source-available with build instructions. Again I don't think the old sites are that valuable, but the source of the old sites should be easily discoverable by someone on the new site. Keeping old sites live is a high cost for little return |
17:17 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> would it point to the old wiki or a new site just for the MTG content? |
17:17 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> I don't think c55 is going to publish the full database and mediawiki config, if that's what you're thinking about |
17:18 |
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<wsor4035> new site, hugo+theme+markdown contents. cant be that many pages that are mtg and not crafting left |
17:18 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> sure, sounds good |
17:19 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> basically the options currently are 1. who cares, burn it. exports exist if anyone wants to do anything with it 2. keep the old wiki running under new url for some reason 3. mtg.luanti.org with non crafting guide pages |
17:19 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i lean towards 1 or 3 |
17:20 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> 1 is more preferable since im lazy, but i also see a point to 3 |
17:27 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> anyone else have another options? could run a poll here |
17:30 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> I guess I could see what will happen if I take the XML export and write (let chatgpt write) a script that extracts the latest contents of a page and feeds it into pandoc, then see how well it works if we just dump the MTG pages |
17:31 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> (it may happen to already be cooking) |
17:31 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1334939156874395739/image.png?ex=679e5a78&is=679d08f8&hm=00c02e608b4e07ecd0f4b12ae2edfc92de09d6fcce1fb10d0ed632bf78456ec4& |
17:32 |
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<rollerozxa> when it comes to translations of MTG pages, should we try to keep them or just throw those out like when we've been migrating all the other pages |
17:32 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> throw em out, there probably outdated |
17:32 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> indeed |
17:32 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> also easy enough to readd if needed |
17:35 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i guess, should check with @celeron55 to make sure that the mtg.luanti.org idea is fine by them. the short version of the idea is any mtg specific content left on wiki.luanti.org will be moved to a repo hosting a mtg.luanti.org site, then the wiki.luanti.org/wiki.minetest.net can be pointed at the current docs sites. any objections to that? |
17:44 |
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<rollerozxa> so this is what I ended up with |
17:44 |
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<rollerozxa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1334942324224036956/pages_from_20241220_export_culled_mtg.zip?ex=679e5d6c&is=679d0bec&hm=bcfdc42c4f408d737cc8f4c12f3595d484e17ee485e8062785c48e5e040341cd& |
17:44 |
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<rollerozxa> deleted all language pages and went through quickly and removed most pages that aren't MTG-related. but haven't done anything with the content other than the automatic conversion |
17:44 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> Why do we want mtg.luanti.org? Just to document Minetest Game? If so, I think that should be low priority. I'd focus our efforts on cleaning up the engine docs first |
17:45 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> My fourth option is "upload the backup data to a GitHub repo, link to the GH repo from the "about this site" page of our new Luanti Documentation site |
17:45 |
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<rollerozxa> https://github.com/rollerozxa/mt-wiki-dumping-ground/blob/master/raw-exports/Luanti%2BWiki-20241220214815.xml |
17:45 |
MTDiscord |
<mark.wiemer> I worry hosting yet another domain will be a high cost with a low reward. Cost in both money and maintenance |
17:47 |
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<rollerozxa> subdomains hosted on github pages are free? |
17:47 |
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<rollerozxa> the maintenance cost will be quite a lot for whoever will be going through the contents, since the MTG pages use a lot of mediawiki template magic. but that's for whoever decides to do that |
17:47 |
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<mark.wiemer> Exactly, maybe just add some "how to view" instructions here. But it seems this is a super compressed single-file view? Maybe we include a quick tool that parses the XML into something more reader-friendly? Even that isn't necessary for now in my book, as long as we're confident that the XML is comprehensive |
17:47 |
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<mark.wiemer> That's one of us |
17:48 |
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<rollerozxa> I think the plan was to dump the contents and let others who are interested in maintaining the MTG stuff to come. and if they don't then that won't be our issue |
17:48 |
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<mark.wiemer> Ah, wasn't sure who would be hosting or how. I know GH Pages isn't meant for big live sites but I'm not sure if they actually throttle access. Maybe money isn't the biggest cost |
17:49 |
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<mark.wiemer> What others might there be? I feel like with MTG as the "official" Luanti game, the expectation would be that the Luanti docs team handles it. As long as we're clear that that's not the case that's fine |
17:52 |
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<rollerozxa> well realistically there might not even be anyone interested |
17:52 |
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<mark.wiemer> Exactly. In that case, why host old bad docs on an official subdomain? |
17:53 |
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<mark.wiemer> There may be people interested in viewing how the docs used to be, so we should link the archive. But until we are confident someone actually wants to maintain them, we shouldn't host them on an official subdomain. It'd make us look bad, imo |
17:54 |
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<rollerozxa> fair enough. 1 sounds like the best option until someone would step forward |
17:54 |
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<mark.wiemer> If we do host on a subdomain, I'd strongly advise a notice on each page "this is an archive and not maintained" |
17:54 |
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<mark.wiemer> Yeah, as long as we link to the exports from the main site that works for me. As of now these exports are not easy to find |
17:55 |
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<mark.wiemer> "that" == "option 1" |
17:55 |
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<rollerozxa> I don't know how useful of a state the exports are as-is though |
17:55 |
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<rollerozxa> but yes, better than not linking them |
17:57 |
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<rollerozxa> also dumping the generated script I used in case @luatic is interested in iterating on it: https://gist.github.com/rollerozxa/886db932ee56c44154913b2880d3025f |
17:57 |
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<mark.wiemer> Yeah, that's why I want us to make sure they're "reasonably viewable" without some external tool. E.g. images load, basic text formatting can be extracted, image captions are present, etc. Â I'm worried if we abandon the archives, we may learn later that we missed something. I'd advocate for us to work through and document "build" instructions to get the archive from XML to HTML to make sure the archive is "valid" and not missing |
17:57 |
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some critical metadata or something to be viewable |
17:58 |
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<rollerozxa> you would need a full database export and a local mediawiki instance for that |
18:01 |
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<warr1024> Nothing is viewable without an external tool; even text files require a text editor. Â Expecting people to restore a backup into a mediawiki instance isn't all that bad, considering the intended audience, as long as we have an actual process for it. Â Which we'd have to have in order to be able to test and confirm that we actually have backups. |
18:01 |
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<warr1024> (A file dumped out of a system and labeled as a "backup" isn't actually a backup; it becomes a backup when you confirm that the data you expect it to contain is actually there, which requires you to be able to interpret it) |
18:02 |
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<warr1024> Probably one person (i.e. c55) is going to have to make dumps of the relevant information available, and then some other person (maybe you) will have to care enough to actually do the work to keep it available to other users. |
18:03 |
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<rollerozxa> yes I think I might have been a bit unclear, this is not a backup, it is way too incomplete to serve as a full backup but it is the next best thing to c55 dumping the whole database and image directory for us |
18:03 |
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<warr1024> In the end, "I care enough about this to complain but not to actually fix it" is just "I don't care" but with extra noise. |
18:04 |
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<rollerozxa> indeed |
18:05 |
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<warr1024> "Partial credit" is absolutely a thing when it comes to backups. Â It's good to know that we have at least something until we can get an actual final dump from c55, in case we never actually manage to get it. |
18:05 |
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<mark.wiemer> Sorry, when I said external tool, I meant external data, my bad |
18:05 |
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<warr1024> Probably there's a certain minimum amount of data (auth, and potentially some PII or contact info) that c55 would want to purge from a backup, but most of what's in the wiki should be dumpable. |
18:07 |
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<mark.wiemer> I do care lol, I'm just, you know, at work right now |
18:07 |
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<mark.wiemer> I will do the work, I just want to make sure we make the backups visible to users asap so they know where to go once the site is taken down if they're curious |
18:08 |
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<mark.wiemer> And yes, backups are not backups until they're validated. I'm happy to validate them, just not right this moment. |
18:09 |
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<warr1024> Personally I like the idea of going the "transparency route" and just making whatever we have available to users immediately, and then they have the option of either figuring it out themselves or waiting for us, or somebody else, to figure out how to make use of it. Â The alternative is just taking away the figure-it-out-yourself option and forcing people to wait for somebody else. |
18:10 |
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<mark.wiemer> My concern goes back to shifting the docs under the user's feet. If folks go to wiki.luanti.org tomorrow and find themselves at dev.luanti.org for the first time, they might be confused and frustrated. Clearly stating "this is the new docs site, here is a backup of the old one, here is how to propose edits" will really really help them not get lost. We already made this new site without any announcement and I think that was a bit |
18:10 |
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of a mistake. Redirecting wiki.luanti.org without a very clear announcement will paint us in a bad light, I think |
18:11 |
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<mark.wiemer> Signing off for work for the day |
18:26 |
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<wsor4035> so it sounds like the serious options are 1 and 3 |
18:28 |
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<warr1024> 1 and 2 sound like the same option to me, the only difference being whether somebody on the MTG side of things decides to take on responsibility for republishing the exports. |
18:32 |
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<wsor4035> wait to see what c55 says on this, but this is what im leaning towards. being in the same state as mtg, maintence only |
19:58 |
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<celeron55> Well, I suppose it's me who should determine the popularity of the mtg content |
20:01 |
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<wsor4035> do you have objections/thoughts on this? |
20:10 |
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<celeron55> It makes sense, if there is demand for the mtg wiki content |
20:10 |
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<celeron55> If there is no demand, then it doesn't make sense |
20:10 |
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<wsor4035> demand would probably have to be calculated by server logs limited to just mtg pages |
20:13 |
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<celeron55> Not sure how to filter those |
20:14 |
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<wsor4035> i mean, the fastest thing is throw goaccess at the logs and pull up the requested files view |
20:14 |
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<wsor4035> https://goaccess.io/man > Requested files: This panel displays the most highly requested (non-static) files on your web server. It shows hits, unique visitors, and percentage, along with the cumulative bandwidth, protocol, and the request method used. |
20:15 |
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<celeron55> $ tail -n100000 access.log | grep wiki.luanti.org | grep -v images | grep -v resources | grep -v load.php | grep -v Special | wc -l |
20:15 |
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<wsor4035> take the top 10 |
20:15 |
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<celeron55> Fuck |
20:17 |
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<celeron55> This probably doesn't say much to you but I'll make a comparison. That's basically the count of wiki page accesses since about 6 hours ago |
20:18 |
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<celeron55> $ tail -n100000 access.log | grep viewtopic.php | wc -l 42310 |
20:18 |
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<celeron55> That's forum topic accesses during the same time |
20:18 |
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<celeron55> The point is: the wiki is barely used to begin with |
20:19 |
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<wsor4035> so go with option 1, keep option 3 as a back pocket for multiple screaming people |
20:21 |
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<celeron55> If you'd intend to improve upon the mtg content, that could be an argument for saving it. Improving it could increase the popularity of it. But if it'd just be essentially an archive of what there is, I'd assume it would be about as popular as currently |
20:22 |
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<celeron55> This of course is the argument for saving parts of the wiki - those parts that are worth improving upon |
20:22 |
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<wsor4035> we already saved the non mtg parts |
20:22 |
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<celeron55> Yeah, that's what I'm referring to |
20:23 |
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<wsor4035> so.... i guess that at this point in time not doing anything with mtg content, do you want to do domain stuff now, or some other time when your more available? |
20:24 |
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<celeron55> How much effort would there be in making a static archive of the wiki content and slap it onto mtg.luanti.org, just to have it around? |
20:25 |
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<wsor4035> roller already made a zip of it md converted, probably in about an hour or two i could have a repo version like dev.luanti.org ready for you to point a subdomain at it |
20:25 |
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<celeron55> That's what I was thinking. If it's so little, it's much more difficult to argue against |
20:26 |
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<wsor4035> ill just make a mtg.luanti.org repo on the luanti-org github org? |
20:26 |
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<wsor4035> and bug you say tommorrow "afternoon" (around now) for dns stuff? |
20:26 |
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<celeron55> I can't help it feeling wrong though |
20:26 |
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<wsor4035> in what way? |
20:27 |
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<celeron55> It puts mtg into a hilight it doesn't deserve |
20:27 |
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<wsor4035> ah, yes |
20:27 |
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<wsor4035> i mean, think of it just as a maintiance only thing like the minetest game project perhaps |
20:28 |
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<rollerozxa> I mean, it could also be under game.minetest.net to distance it a bit |
20:28 |
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<wsor4035> that feels to agnostic tho |
20:28 |
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<rollerozxa> fair |
20:28 |
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<wsor4035> like i would think game.minetest.net would be something about making games for luanti, rather than just mtg stuff |
20:29 |
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<rollerozxa> I was talking about specifically using the old minetest.net domain |
20:29 |
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<wsor4035> yeah, i just caught that lol |
20:29 |
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<wsor4035> dumb me |
20:30 |
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<wsor4035> i mean, mtg is very much a just this community acronym, to anyone else it means magic the gathering. maybe minetest_game.luanti.org? |
20:32 |
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<celeron55> What if the content was on docs.luanti.org, tucked away as a single top level topic? |
20:32 |
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<celeron55> Maybe we need to wait for the screams first |
20:32 |
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<wsor4035> pretty clear from most discussions that "we" dont want it |
20:32 |
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<wsor4035> also https://github.com/luanti-org/dev.luanti.org/issues/80 |
20:36 |
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<wsor4035> Any thoughts on mtg vs minetest_game? |
20:38 |
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<celeron55> Yes the full minetest_game name is a good idea |
20:41 |
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<celeron55> Would you like to switch to docs.luanti.org now? Or tomorrow? I guess that's one thing to do soon |
20:43 |
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<rollerozxa> I suppose it would be fine to do the subdomain switch now, if you have the time |
20:46 |
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<celeron55> Well it takes almost no time from me |
20:48 |
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<celeron55> I added the DNS entry |
20:48 |
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<celeron55> (CNAME docs.luanti.org -> luanti-org.github.io) |
20:49 |
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<wsor4035> you making the commit roller to change it? |
20:49 |
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<rollerozxa> you'll have to change it in the repository settings |
20:49 |
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<wsor4035> ah wait, its settings |
20:49 |
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<wsor4035> thats me |
20:50 |
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<rollerozxa> CNAME file isn't used when it's deployed using github actions |
20:50 |
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<wsor4035> dns check in progress |
20:50 |
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<rollerozxa> setting up a redirect on your server for dev.luanti.org -> docs.luanti.org would be needed too |
20:51 |
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<wsor4035> also change the dev.minetest.net to docs.luanti.org instead of dev.luanti.org |
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<wsor4035> done |
20:54 |
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<wsor4035> look good? |
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<wsor4035> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1334990113255723090/image.png?ex=679e89ed&is=679d386d&hm=7257a158e10c16bbc4792a7343ba62b2b092f1b96d3aafc8ad4f21b1d7b745df& |
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<rollerozxa> look good |
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<rollerozxa> (though I guess you were asking c55) |
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<wsor4035> i assumed https://discord.com/channels/369122544273588224/926231483155378176/1334986266122387507 |
20:56 |
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<wsor4035> well, anyways, i made the repo, added docs team to it |
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<celeron55> Done |
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<rollerozxa> yay |
21:08 |
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<wsor4035> c55: you also want to redirect wiki.luanti.org and wiki.minetest.net to docs.luanti.org? |
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<wsor4035> also im ready for the minetest_game.luanti.org dns |
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<wsor4035> roller: from this export i only want to pull out non crafting guide things, right? |
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<wsor4035> or just stick it all in there, who cares? |
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<rollerozxa> do whatever sounds simplest |
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<rollerozxa> (and it's likely going to be a mess either way) |
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<celeron55> I added that already |
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<celeron55> I'll do this latet |
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<wsor4035> ok |
21:34 |
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<wsor4035> so much mediawiki junk in this export |
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<rollerozxa> yeah... |
21:44 |
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<wsor4035> regex replace to the rescue to nuke all of it |
21:48 |
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<wsor4035> well, i have ripped out enough mess that hugo will start now lol |
21:50 |
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<wsor4035> yeah.... it still looks like crap |
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<wsor4035> try running branch https://github.com/luanti-org/minetest_game.luanti.org/tree/data_import not sure what of value that has |
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<wsor4035> Enforce HTTPS — Unavailable for your site because your domain contains invalid characters da heck? |
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<wsor4035> minetest_game.luanti.org it dns checks just fine, resolves just fine |
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<rollerozxa> apparently underscore isn't valid in certificate hostnames |
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<wsor4035> thats... dumb. |
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<wsor4035> is -? |
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<rollerozxa> dash is valid, yeah |
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<wsor4035> so i guess will have to change that |
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<wsor4035> so should i work on further cleaning this up? |
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<rollerozxa> I mean, I don't really know if it's worth it |
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<wsor4035> true |
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<wsor4035> ill just clean it up minimally a bit more, and then it will all be there. can wash our hands of it after that? |
22:12 |
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<wsor4035> well, stripping stuff is easy, fixing links is.... meh |
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<wsor4035> maybe i should just strip the links and leave the text behind? |
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<rollerozxa> is there a way to configure Hugo so that default page permalinks don't have a slash at the end |
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<rollerozxa> at that point the wikilinks for pages that exist internally should all work again |
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<wsor4035> google is your friend? but it wont since i renamed the pages to text-text-text format |
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<wsor4035> ill play with this some more tonight. see what i can come up with |