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01:04 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Gonna migrate the last four articles now 🙂 https://wiki.luanti.org/Objects https://wiki.luanti.org/Player https://wiki.luanti.org/Programs_and_Editors https://wiki.luanti.org/Punching
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01:25 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Is this still accurate?  Players appear as 3D models similar to Minecraft. However, they never hold any blocks or items in hand and never look up or down. As of version 0.4.10, there is a third person view to see oneself. Press F7 to switch between camera modes. The pitch (vertical viewing angle) of a player is not visible to other players by default. The pitch of a player is between -89.5 and 89.5 degrees.
01:26 MTDiscord <greenxenith> The only relevant info there is the camera modes and the pitch limits
01:26 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Ugh, gonna leave this for now, we've never added inline images but this is better than nothing I think :/
01:26 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1334696289924939807/image.png?ex=679d7848&amp;is=679c26c8&amp;hm=0f05c0faa1770d3e9dd74604dd9410d37adc1a4a66dadc72712f4d658641bc33&amp;
01:27 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Debatable that can be removed
01:27 MTDiscord <greenxenith> While health is a builtin mechanism, it is often overridden
01:27 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> changed to this
01:27 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1334696650416984195/image.png?ex=679d789e&amp;is=679c271e&amp;hm=1dc5fc7e5b7d72ebf8fee27aeb08aa72d4e6473644737882577f87374f2e2e6f&amp;
01:28 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> generally we don't police content too much on migration, happy to revisit once it's actually merged
01:57 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> lol something so ominous about this
01:57 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1334704194954727505/image.png?ex=679d7fa5&amp;is=679c2e25&amp;hm=43060c734abda8509fb2843769349575a1ff6a1798f4803e81ce89ae1ab783a0&amp;
02:07 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> https://github.com/luanti-org/dev.luanti.org/pull/159 ready for review, importing the final 3 files!
04:35 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Looks like https://github.com/luanti-org/dev.luanti.org/issues/80 is next on the roadmap, feel free to update it with details as needed 🙂
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09:53 MTDiscord <lemente> I don't have the time do that for now Remember that often teachers (and new users in general) need informations that might seem very basic to devs.  But some pages are 100% trash. Except maybe the page title.
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11:29 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> it's ok, there's no hurry. even if the wiki will be shut down soon I'll still be holding onto export backups of the content as it was
11:30 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> merging https://github.com/luanti-org/dev.luanti.org/pull/159 in 10m
16:28 MTDiscord <wsor4035> this stuff should be nested under anything but edu tbh, and then linked from the edu page if neccessary tbh
16:30 MTDiscord <wsor4035> im updating the roadmap to include domain remain + wiki/dev rredirection to it, any objections?
16:33 MTDiscord <wsor4035> added, can remove if anyone screams i guess
16:33 MTDiscord <wsor4035> also unpinned the dev wiki issue since its closed
16:35 MTDiscord <wsor4035> @luatic re wiki.luanti.org, since roller has a backup, c55 will have the source still, worth moving ahead with domain repointing, or would you like to do something with that content first?
16:47 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Maybe we should add something to the about page saying "If you'd like to see the old wiki, go to this GitHub repo"?
16:49 MTDiscord <wsor4035> meh 🤷
16:50 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Not much value having backups if readers don't know where to find them. A link on the site is a lot easier than the implied "make a forum post or Discord message asking about this and wait for someone to see it and share the link with you"
16:52 MTDiscord <wsor4035> the idea is anything of value should be migrated
16:52 MTDiscord <wsor4035> the old forum, etc arent linked to
16:52 MTDiscord <wsor4035> throwing the link in the comment of a few issues isnt a bad idea
16:52 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> The question is whether the reader might disagree with our definition of "value". We are clearly saying "detailed docs of Minetest Game are excluded" where others might think "wait, my mod is based on MTG, I want to learn more about it"
16:53 MTDiscord <wsor4035> yes, i need to wiki to see how to craft x, because im to stupid to use the craft guide
16:53 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> The old wiki had a different goal, it still answers some questions better than the new docs do
16:54 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> I don't think we should insult our readers. Adding a link is very easy and will provide some value for some folks. I'm not sure what the problem is
16:54 MTDiscord <wsor4035> sarcasm aside, most of what is left on the wiki is craft pages. which are literally worthless. as a side note, people other than me should check the wiki to make sure i didnt miss anything when making the link
16:54 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Emphasis on "most"
16:55 MTDiscord <warr1024> I would hope that the old wiki backups would include history, and you could just dump a final snapshot of the full wiki history somewhere, let people have access to everything that's been on there, and be done with it.
16:56 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Plus, some people might just want to know what the docs looked like in the past for historical purposes. Let's just link to the repo for that reason alone, to satisfy curiosity
16:58 MTDiscord <wsor4035> pretty much
16:58 MTDiscord <wsor4035> rollers has some history, c55 has the full picture
16:58 MTDiscord <luatic> i can not put something up right now
16:59 MTDiscord <luatic> i also can't really promise that i can do something with it soon
17:00 MTDiscord <wsor4035> its backed up, so can do whatever you want with it at some point, so would you be fine with us proceeding then?
17:04 MTDiscord <luatic> i won't mind much. however for the "average wiki user" these sites would become less accessible for now. i don't know how much that matters.
17:05 MTDiscord <luatic> would it be an option to have the old wiki live on, say, under old-wiki.luanti.org? is that possible with little effort on celeron's part?
17:06 MTDiscord <wsor4035> cc @rollerozxa, thoughts on us just making mtg.luanti.org, migrating non craft guide stuff to it?
17:07 MTDiscord <wsor4035> perhaps, dont really want slow/ancient site living on if we can help it
17:15 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> I don't think we need to keep any old sites live, just source-available with build instructions. Again I don't think the old sites are that valuable, but the source of the old sites should be easily discoverable by someone on the new site. Keeping old sites live is a high cost for little return
17:17 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> would it point to the old wiki or a new site just for the MTG content?
17:17 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I don't think c55 is going to publish the full database and mediawiki config, if that's what you're thinking about
17:18 MTDiscord <wsor4035> new site, hugo+theme+markdown contents. cant be that many pages that are mtg and not crafting left
17:18 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> sure, sounds good
17:19 MTDiscord <wsor4035> basically the options currently are 1. who cares, burn it. exports exist if anyone wants to do anything with it 2. keep the old wiki running under new url for some reason 3. mtg.luanti.org with non crafting guide pages
17:19 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i lean towards 1 or 3
17:20 MTDiscord <wsor4035> 1 is more preferable since im lazy, but i also see a point to 3
17:27 MTDiscord <wsor4035> anyone else have another options? could run a poll here
17:30 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I guess I could see what will happen if I take the XML export and write (let chatgpt write) a script that extracts the latest contents of a page and feeds it into pandoc, then see how well it works if we just dump the MTG pages
17:31 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (it may happen to already be cooking)
17:31 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1334939156874395739/image.png?ex=679e5a78&amp;is=679d08f8&amp;hm=00c02e608b4e07ecd0f4b12ae2edfc92de09d6fcce1fb10d0ed632bf78456ec4&amp;
17:32 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> when it comes to translations of MTG pages, should we try to keep them or just throw those out like when we've been migrating all the other pages
17:32 MTDiscord <wsor4035> throw em out, there probably outdated
17:32 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> indeed
17:32 MTDiscord <wsor4035> also easy enough to readd if needed
17:35 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i guess, should check with @celeron55 to make sure that the mtg.luanti.org idea is fine by them. the short version of the idea is any mtg specific content left on wiki.luanti.org will be moved to a repo hosting a mtg.luanti.org site, then the wiki.luanti.org/wiki.minetest.net can be pointed at the current docs sites. any objections to that?
17:44 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> so this is what I ended up with
17:44 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1334942324224036956/pages_from_20241220_export_culled_mtg.zip?ex=679e5d6c&amp;is=679d0bec&amp;hm=bcfdc42c4f408d737cc8f4c12f3595d484e17ee485e8062785c48e5e040341cd&amp;
17:44 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> deleted all language pages and went through quickly and removed most pages that aren't MTG-related. but haven't done anything with the content other than the automatic conversion
17:44 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Why do we want mtg.luanti.org? Just to document Minetest Game? If so, I think that should be low priority. I'd focus our efforts on cleaning up the engine docs first
17:45 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> My fourth option is "upload the backup data to a GitHub repo, link to the GH repo from the "about this site" page of our new Luanti Documentation site
17:45 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> https://github.com/rollerozxa/mt-wiki-dumping-ground/blob/master/raw-exports/Luanti%2BWiki-20241220214815.xml
17:45 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> I worry hosting yet another domain will be a high cost with a low reward. Cost in both money and maintenance
17:47 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> subdomains hosted on github pages are free?
17:47 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> the maintenance cost will be quite a lot for whoever will be going through the contents, since the MTG pages use a lot of mediawiki template magic. but that's for whoever decides to do that
17:47 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Exactly, maybe just add some "how to view" instructions here. But it seems this is a super compressed single-file view? Maybe we include a quick tool that parses the XML into something more reader-friendly? Even that isn't necessary for now in my book, as long as we're confident that the XML is comprehensive
17:47 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> That's one of us
17:48 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I think the plan was to dump the contents and let others who are interested in maintaining the MTG stuff to come. and if they don't then that won't be our issue
17:48 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Ah, wasn't sure who would be hosting or how. I know GH Pages isn't meant for big live sites but I'm not sure if they actually throttle access. Maybe money isn't the biggest cost
17:49 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> What others might there be? I feel like with MTG as the "official" Luanti game, the expectation would be that the Luanti docs team handles it. As long as we're clear that that's not the case that's fine
17:52 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> well realistically there might not even be anyone interested
17:52 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Exactly. In that case, why host old bad docs on an official subdomain?
17:53 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> There may be people interested in viewing how the docs used to be, so we should link the archive. But until we are confident someone actually wants to maintain them, we shouldn't host them on an official subdomain. It'd make us look bad, imo
17:54 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> fair enough. 1 sounds like the best option until someone would step forward
17:54 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> If we do host on a subdomain, I'd strongly advise a notice on each page "this is an archive and not maintained"
17:54 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Yeah, as long as we link to the exports from the main site that works for me. As of now these exports are not easy to find
17:55 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> "that" == "option 1"
17:55 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I don't know how useful of a state the exports are as-is though
17:55 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> but yes, better than not linking them
17:57 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> also dumping the generated script I used in case @luatic is interested in iterating on it: https://gist.github.com/rollerozxa/886db932ee56c44154913b2880d3025f
17:57 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Yeah, that's why I want us to make sure they're "reasonably viewable" without some external tool. E.g. images load, basic text formatting can be extracted, image captions are present, etc.  I'm worried if we abandon the archives, we may learn later that we missed something. I'd advocate for us to work through and document "build" instructions to get the archive from XML to HTML to make sure the archive is "valid" and not missing
17:57 MTDiscord some critical metadata or something to be viewable
17:58 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> you would need a full database export and a local mediawiki instance for that
18:01 MTDiscord <warr1024> Nothing is viewable without an external tool; even text files require a text editor.  Expecting people to restore a backup into a mediawiki instance isn't all that bad, considering the intended audience, as long as we have an actual process for it.  Which we'd have to have in order to be able to test and confirm that we actually have backups.
18:01 MTDiscord <warr1024> (A file dumped out of a system and labeled as a "backup" isn't actually a backup; it becomes a backup when you confirm that the data you expect it to contain is actually there, which requires you to be able to interpret it)
18:02 MTDiscord <warr1024> Probably one person (i.e. c55) is going to have to make dumps of the relevant information available, and then some other person (maybe you) will have to care enough to actually do the work to keep it available to other users.
18:03 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yes I think I might have been a bit unclear, this is not a backup, it is way too incomplete to serve as a full backup but it is the next best thing to c55 dumping the whole database and image directory for us
18:03 MTDiscord <warr1024> In the end, "I care enough about this to complain but not to actually fix it" is just "I don't care" but with extra noise.
18:04 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> indeed
18:05 MTDiscord <warr1024> "Partial credit" is absolutely a thing when it comes to backups.  It's good to know that we have at least something until we can get an actual final dump from c55, in case we never actually manage to get it.
18:05 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Sorry, when I said external tool, I meant external data, my bad
18:05 MTDiscord <warr1024> Probably there's a certain minimum amount of data (auth, and potentially some PII or contact info) that c55 would want to purge from a backup, but most of what's in the wiki should be dumpable.
18:07 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> I do care lol, I'm just, you know, at work right now
18:07 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> I will do the work, I just want to make sure we make the backups visible to users asap so they know where to go once the site is taken down if they're curious
18:08 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> And yes, backups are not backups until they're validated. I'm happy to validate them, just not right this moment.
18:09 MTDiscord <warr1024> Personally I like the idea of going the "transparency route" and just making whatever we have available to users immediately, and then they have the option of either figuring it out themselves or waiting for us, or somebody else, to figure out how to make use of it.  The alternative is just taking away the figure-it-out-yourself option and forcing people to wait for somebody else.
18:10 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> My concern goes back to shifting the docs under the user's feet. If folks go to wiki.luanti.org tomorrow and find themselves at dev.luanti.org for the first time, they might be confused and frustrated. Clearly stating "this is the new docs site, here is a backup of the old one, here is how to propose edits" will really really help them not get lost. We already made this new site without any announcement and I think that was a bit
18:10 MTDiscord of a mistake. Redirecting wiki.luanti.org without a very clear announcement will paint us in a bad light, I think
18:11 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Signing off for work for the day
18:26 MTDiscord <wsor4035> so it sounds like the serious options are 1 and 3
18:28 MTDiscord <warr1024> 1 and 2 sound like the same option to me, the only difference being whether somebody on the MTG side of things decides to take on responsibility for republishing the exports.
18:32 MTDiscord <wsor4035> wait to see what c55 says on this, but this is what im leaning towards. being in the same state as mtg, maintence only
19:58 MTDiscord <celeron55> Well, I suppose it's me who should determine the popularity of the mtg content
20:01 MTDiscord <wsor4035> do you have objections/thoughts on this?
20:10 MTDiscord <celeron55> It makes sense, if there is demand for the mtg wiki content
20:10 MTDiscord <celeron55> If there is no demand, then it doesn't make sense
20:10 MTDiscord <wsor4035> demand would probably have to be calculated by server logs limited to just mtg pages
20:13 MTDiscord <celeron55> Not sure how to filter those
20:14 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i mean, the fastest thing is throw goaccess at the logs and pull up the requested files view
20:14 MTDiscord <wsor4035> https://goaccess.io/man > Requested files: This panel displays the most highly requested (non-static) files on your web server. It shows hits, unique visitors, and percentage, along with the cumulative bandwidth, protocol, and the request method used.
20:15 MTDiscord <celeron55> $ tail -n100000 access.log | grep wiki.luanti.org | grep -v images | grep -v resources | grep -v load.php | grep -v Special | wc -l
20:15 MTDiscord <wsor4035> take the top 10
20:15 MTDiscord <celeron55> Fuck
20:17 MTDiscord <celeron55> This probably doesn't say much to you but I'll make a comparison. That's basically the count of wiki page accesses since about 6 hours ago
20:18 MTDiscord <celeron55> $ tail -n100000 access.log | grep viewtopic.php | wc -l 42310
20:18 MTDiscord <celeron55> That's forum topic accesses during the same time
20:18 MTDiscord <celeron55> The point is: the wiki is barely used to begin with
20:19 MTDiscord <wsor4035> so go with option 1, keep option 3 as a back pocket for multiple screaming people
20:21 MTDiscord <celeron55> If you'd intend to improve upon the mtg content, that could be an argument for saving it. Improving it could increase the popularity of it. But if it'd just be essentially an archive of what there is, I'd assume it would be about as popular as currently
20:22 MTDiscord <celeron55> This of course is the argument for saving parts of the wiki - those parts that are worth improving upon
20:22 MTDiscord <wsor4035> we already saved the non mtg parts
20:22 MTDiscord <celeron55> Yeah, that's what I'm referring to
20:23 MTDiscord <wsor4035> so.... i guess that at this point in time not doing anything with mtg content, do you want to do domain stuff now, or some other time when your more available?
20:24 MTDiscord <celeron55> How much effort would there be in making a static archive of the wiki content and slap it onto mtg.luanti.org, just to have it around?
20:25 MTDiscord <wsor4035> roller already made a zip of it md converted, probably in about an hour or two i could have a repo version like dev.luanti.org ready for you to point a subdomain at it
20:25 MTDiscord <celeron55> That's what I was thinking. If it's so little, it's much more difficult to argue against
20:26 MTDiscord <wsor4035> ill just make a mtg.luanti.org repo on the luanti-org github org?
20:26 MTDiscord <wsor4035> and bug you say tommorrow "afternoon" (around now) for dns stuff?
20:26 MTDiscord <celeron55> I can't help it feeling wrong though
20:26 MTDiscord <wsor4035> in what way?
20:27 MTDiscord <celeron55> It puts mtg into a hilight it doesn't deserve
20:27 MTDiscord <wsor4035> ah, yes
20:27 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i mean, think of it just as a maintiance only thing like the minetest game project perhaps
20:28 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I mean, it could also be under game.minetest.net to distance it a bit
20:28 MTDiscord <wsor4035> that feels to agnostic tho
20:28 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> fair
20:28 MTDiscord <wsor4035> like i would think game.minetest.net would be something about making games for luanti, rather than just mtg stuff
20:29 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I was talking about specifically using the old minetest.net domain
20:29 MTDiscord <wsor4035> yeah, i just caught that lol
20:29 MTDiscord <wsor4035> dumb me
20:30 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i mean, mtg is very much a just this community acronym, to anyone else it means magic the gathering. maybe minetest_game.luanti.org?
20:32 MTDiscord <celeron55> What if the content was on docs.luanti.org, tucked away as a single top level topic?
20:32 MTDiscord <celeron55> Maybe we need to wait for the screams first
20:32 MTDiscord <wsor4035> pretty clear from most discussions that "we" dont want it
20:32 MTDiscord <wsor4035> also https://github.com/luanti-org/dev.luanti.org/issues/80
20:36 MTDiscord <wsor4035> Any thoughts on mtg vs minetest_game?
20:38 MTDiscord <celeron55> Yes the full minetest_game name is a good idea
20:41 MTDiscord <celeron55> Would you like to switch to docs.luanti.org now? Or tomorrow? I guess that's one thing to do soon
20:43 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I suppose it would be fine to do the subdomain switch now, if you have the time
20:46 MTDiscord <celeron55> Well it takes almost no time from me
20:48 MTDiscord <celeron55> I added the DNS entry
20:48 MTDiscord <celeron55> (CNAME docs.luanti.org -> luanti-org.github.io)
20:49 MTDiscord <wsor4035> you making the commit roller to change it?
20:49 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> you'll have to change it in the repository settings
20:49 MTDiscord <wsor4035> ah wait, its settings
20:49 MTDiscord <wsor4035> thats me
20:50 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> CNAME file isn't used when it's deployed using github actions
20:50 MTDiscord <wsor4035> dns check in progress
20:50 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> setting up a redirect on your server for dev.luanti.org -> docs.luanti.org would be needed too
20:51 MTDiscord <wsor4035> also change the dev.minetest.net to docs.luanti.org instead of dev.luanti.org
20:51 MTDiscord <wsor4035> done
20:54 MTDiscord <wsor4035> look good?
20:54 MTDiscord <wsor4035> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1334990113255723090/image.png?ex=679e89ed&amp;is=679d386d&amp;hm=7257a158e10c16bbc4792a7343ba62b2b092f1b96d3aafc8ad4f21b1d7b745df&amp;
20:54 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> look good
20:54 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (though I guess you were asking c55)
20:55 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i assumed https://discord.com/channels/369122544273588224/926231483155378176/1334986266122387507
20:56 MTDiscord <wsor4035> well, anyways, i made the repo, added docs team to it
21:02 MTDiscord <celeron55> Done
21:05 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yay
21:08 MTDiscord <wsor4035> c55: you also want to redirect wiki.luanti.org and wiki.minetest.net to docs.luanti.org?
21:18 MTDiscord <wsor4035> also im ready for the minetest_game.luanti.org dns
21:23 MTDiscord <wsor4035> roller: from this export i only want to pull out non crafting guide things, right?
21:25 MTDiscord <wsor4035> or just stick it all in there, who cares?
21:26 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> do whatever sounds simplest
21:26 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (and it's likely going to be a mess either way)
21:32 MTDiscord <celeron55> I added that already
21:32 MTDiscord <celeron55> I'll do this latet
21:32 MTDiscord <wsor4035> ok
21:34 MTDiscord <wsor4035> so much mediawiki junk in this export
21:40 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yeah...
21:44 MTDiscord <wsor4035> regex replace to the rescue to nuke all of it
21:48 MTDiscord <wsor4035> well, i have ripped out enough mess that hugo will start now lol
21:50 MTDiscord <wsor4035> yeah.... it still looks like crap
21:58 MTDiscord <wsor4035> try running branch https://github.com/luanti-org/minetest_game.luanti.org/tree/data_import not sure what of value that has
22:04 MTDiscord <wsor4035> Enforce HTTPS — Unavailable for your site because your domain contains invalid characters da heck?
22:05 MTDiscord <wsor4035> minetest_game.luanti.org it dns checks just fine, resolves just fine
22:06 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> apparently underscore isn't valid in certificate hostnames
22:06 MTDiscord <wsor4035> thats... dumb.
22:06 MTDiscord <wsor4035> is -?
22:07 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> dash is valid, yeah
22:07 MTDiscord <wsor4035> so i guess will have to change that
22:08 MTDiscord <wsor4035> so should i work on further cleaning this up?
22:10 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I mean, I don't really know if it's worth it
22:10 MTDiscord <wsor4035> true
22:11 MTDiscord <wsor4035> ill just clean it up minimally a bit more, and then it will all be there. can wash our hands of it after that?
22:12 MTDiscord <wsor4035> well, stripping stuff is easy, fixing links is.... meh
22:13 MTDiscord <wsor4035> maybe i should just strip the links and leave the text behind?
22:15 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> is there a way to configure Hugo so that default page permalinks don't have a slash at the end
22:15 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> at that point the wikilinks for pages that exist internally should all work again
22:17 MTDiscord <wsor4035> google is your friend? but it wont since i renamed the pages to text-text-text format
22:19 MTDiscord <wsor4035> ill play with this some more tonight. see what i can come up with

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