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IRC log for #minetest-docs, 2025-01-07

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00:06 MTDiscord <greenxenith> If someone else also agrees that it should be localstorage, I will change it
00:06 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Id rather not bikeshed further beyond that
00:16 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> That is an interesting reason. I'm someone who would not want to see the notice ever again lol. But I don't have the technical expertise on session vs local storage to care one way or the other.
00:19 MTDiscord <luatic> I don't think this needs much expertise; the question boils down to: * You want to see the notice again in every new session, regardless of whether you closed it in the last session? -> sessionStorage * You don't want to see the notice ever again if you closed it? -> localStorage I too would prefer the latter, maybe with an exception for the "about" page.
00:19 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> localStorage persists between sessions right? that would make more sense so I don't need to dismiss it every time
00:20 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> It could be reasonable to show the notice for every session, as long as the notice isn't in the way of any content.
00:20 MTDiscord <greenxenith> To be clear: sessionStorage is across the browser session, not tab session
00:20 MTDiscord <greenxenith> You can open and close the site without seeing the notice again until you restart your browser
00:22 MTDiscord <luatic> It looks like this: https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/24834740/400321045-2305b762-2cf6-4da8-8286-96e9c4b3754b.png
00:23 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (I agree with luatic that it should be localStorage)
00:23 MTDiscord <luatic> @Josiah (Sie/Sie) see this PR for a screenshot. It is at the top of the page.
00:23 MTDiscord <greenxenith> (it is injected before the content; scrolls with the content, not sticky)
00:24 MTDiscord <wsor4035> does this really need to be on every page?
00:24 MTDiscord <greenxenith> There are more advantages than disadvantages
00:25 MTDiscord <greenxenith> 1) Its easier to inject globally 2) If a user never sees the page we choose, they wont see the notice
00:25 MTDiscord <wsor4035> also > Content and URLs may change quickly without notice. id argue this isnt really true, its not changing much more than a regular (active) wiki. old links are being redirected
00:26 MTDiscord <greenxenith> may
00:26 MTDiscord <greenxenith> And new URLs may change
00:26 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> Thanks. I don't find it that intrusive, but I don't want to be blamable for any bikeshedding lol.
00:26 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Its a warning, not a guarantee, after al
00:26 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> It sounds like others prefer the dismissal to persist between browser sessions.
00:26 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Then so it shall be
00:27 MTDiscord <wsor4035> the one thing i do feel firmly on is that we should have a adter x time/x happens it will be reverted, since this doesnt make sense to be up for all time
00:28 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Yes, this is not supposed to stick around
00:28 MTDiscord <greenxenith> We should put removal on the roadmap
00:28 MTDiscord <wsor4035> yeah, but based on what/when
00:29 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Does that need to go in the notice itself
00:29 MTDiscord <wsor4035> like removed when issue #69420 is done, or something
00:29 MTDiscord <wsor4035> nah, just in the roadmap or something should be fine
00:40 MTDiscord <greenxenith> I would say the short term roadmap needs to be completed at least, if not the medium
00:40 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Notice PR is updated, btw
00:47 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i added it to the roadmap, in medium term
00:48 MTDiscord <wsor4035> also what does > Categorize information by target audience (API users, engine developers, server owners, players, etc.) even mean in reality?
00:48 MTDiscord <wsor4035> nesting? something else?
00:48 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Yes
00:48 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Currently its a monolithic list
00:49 MTDiscord <greenxenith> I was working on that for a second but I need to abandon some projects for now
00:49 MTDiscord <wsor4035> hmmm, may kick that to a random list or something
00:50 MTDiscord <wsor4035> in terms of stuff on short term needing to be done to revert
00:50 MTDiscord <greenxenith> That is a farily important organization task
00:51 MTDiscord <greenxenith> For instance, compiling on linux/windows should go together with other compiling instructions. There are like 5 different world/db-related pages that should go together. The random history bits need a misc section. Content metadata (name rights, cdb, forks, etc) should go together. etc. etc.
00:54 MTDiscord <wsor4035> fair enough.
01:04 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> hey if there are updates to issue 66 feel free to add it to GitHub, I'm not gonna be checking Discord too much this week
03:16 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> I don't think we should show the notice on every session, I get very annoyed by that
03:26 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Well its already been changed so ou don't have to worry about that
03:48 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> 🙂
03:59 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Your reviews have been attended to
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