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03:26 MTDiscord <wsor4035> https://discord.com/channels/369122544273588224/1322767319113404437 (rpi4 hosting), we probably should have some rpi guide or whatever since people ocassionally ask about builds/hosting/etc
03:29 MTDiscord <wsor4035> maybe thats more $enginerepo/docs focused? dunno
03:29 MTDiscord <wsor4035> just throwing it out there
03:53 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> I'm a big fan of opening issues for stuff like this before messages float away, lost to the wind 😉
03:54 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i would have opened issue, just not sure 👆
04:00 MTDiscord <wsor4035> ?remindme 23h open dev site issue maybe
04:00 MTDiscord <wsor4035> tommorrow if no one has commented and/or said no, will make an issue
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06:33 mark-wiemer hello from NixOS web.libera.chat :)
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06:44 mark-wiemer1 Hi from Pidgin
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06:47 mark-wiemer Hello again from Pidgin with none of my other clients open
06:47 mark-wiemer Alright, looks good, no more spam from me! Thanks for your patience :)
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11:45 MTDiscord <siliconsniffer> I too would be in favor of adding a RPi specific guide.
14:31 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> what would be on such a page? instructions on how to compile a headless server?
14:33 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I have some WIP build instructions for compiling a headless server on linux, primarily debian-based distros, lying around
14:34 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (and I was also planning to extend my luantiserver linux builds to include an ARM64 build sometime...)
15:05 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> https://github.com/minetest/dev.luanti.org/pull/116
15:11 MTDiscord <luatic> I figure I should also link https://github.com/minetest/dev.luanti.org/pull/115 here, though it mostly calls for core dev input
15:12 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yeah I saw it and am giving it a quick personal read
15:12 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> but I'll let another coredev give an approval first before merging
15:14 MTDiscord <luatic> of course
15:15 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> why does github's syntax highlighting break down here
15:15 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1322946115758198834/image.png?ex=6772b915&amp;is=67716795&amp;hm=54daf560af3da8990b123ce16bf38f8ef26c9f52b97257d42224228b4993dfc8&amp;
15:15 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I thought it was because of the lacking newline but it's still rainbow text after I added it
15:16 MTDiscord <luatic> goofy ahh syntax highlighting
15:17 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> renders fine though, which is what is most important 😁
15:17 MTDiscord <luatic> yeah locally on VSC my highlighting is correct
15:17 MTDiscord <luatic> no idea what they messed up on GitHub. I also noticed a while ago that they can't even highlight Lua correctly if you embed comments in the function parameter list. Fun times.
15:18 MTDiscord <luatic> I considered fixing it but it's too tedious, too small chance of success, not worth the effort for now.
15:18 MTDiscord <luatic> iirc
15:18 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yeah their syntax highlighting seems to have taken a turn for the worse somehow
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15:38 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> merging https://github.com/minetest/dev.luanti.org/pull/116 in 10m
15:39 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (any further changes can be made in follow-up PRs)
15:42 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I should also leave a message in the server owner group requesting contributions on some server-related pages, now that they are free from the wiki shackles
15:43 mark-wiemer rollerozxa: FYI, I do have all notifications on for this repo, would love it if we gave PRs 24 hours to get a second reader. Just a thought
15:43 mark-wiemer (Where the first reader is the author)
15:51 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> sounds fair enough
15:51 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I mean that's what I've usually tried to get before merging something
15:55 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> also I sent the message in the server owner group. hopefully we can see some contributions from there :)
16:02 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> wow the database backends page still lists the mariadb backend... that one is dead as a doornail
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16:20 MTDiscord <wsor4035> that never was a thing iirc? just a pr? 🤔
16:20 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yup
16:20 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> but I eagerly added a section to the database backends page expecting it to be merged
16:21 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> well, it still has concept approval so if anyone wants to adopt it then still mentioning it should be a good idea
16:21 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (I'm doing some updates to the database backends page rn)
16:21 MTDiscord <wsor4035> fine by me
16:23 MTDiscord <wsor4035> anyone on -docs team is trusted to use there best judgement on merging, but announce it here first. probably if its something in /docs should have one other non you person review it since thats actually minetest-docs content
16:24 MTDiscord <luatic> yeah, with an exception for engine-dev-process related things, those need coredev approvals
16:26 MTDiscord <wsor4035> *if major
16:26 MTDiscord <wsor4035> if its word mispelling for anything, no one cares
16:28 MTDiscord <luatic> yeah obviously
16:32 MTDiscord <wsor4035> merging https://github.com/minetest/dev.luanti.org/pull/117 in 10 provided no screaming
16:56 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> aaaugh
16:56 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1322971410490069053/image.png?ex=6772d0a3&amp;is=67717f23&amp;hm=8b7c86fc86bf6d7af0ede271e33d99c28666329245f8efe27485ed49abf7641a&amp;
16:56 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> aaahh
16:56 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1322971635145506846/image.png?ex=6772d0d9&amp;is=67717f59&amp;hm=0ad3cd0cc7b30cff5b0954b4a471dab7600a4a6cdf47f2419c61f125c763c22b&amp;
16:57 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (does hugo support colon emoji syntax maybe?)
16:57 MTDiscord <wsor4035> ....whats the issue?
16:58 MTDiscord <wsor4035> its rendering fine here https://dev.luanti.org/database-backends/#comparison-table
16:59 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> it's the source representation
16:59 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> it can't be properly formatted because of the unicode checkmark misaligning everything
16:59 MTDiscord <wsor4035> just put spaces/tabs to make them line up?
16:59 MTDiscord <wsor4035> ahhh
17:00 MTDiscord <wsor4035> not the end of the world i suppose
17:00 MTDiscord <wsor4035> other than everyones ocd
17:00 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yeah I'll leave it like this for someone else to get annoyed by it
17:34 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> I'm sure there's a shortcode for emojis in Hugo, the question is whether it's worth it 😄 personally I don't get bothered with misaligned stuff like this when I know it's a non-trivial fix
17:34 MTDiscord <wsor4035> roller is refering to :emotename: format which is very commonly used
17:36 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> hugo has support for such emoji syntax hidden behind a config option, but I'll leave the table like it is for now
17:53 MTDiscord <mark.wiemer> Must... resist... urge... to open issue
18:23 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I was just gonna update the mariadb and redis sections a bit and ended up with a rewrite, don't know how that happened 😂
18:23 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> https://github.com/minetest/dev.luanti.org/pull/118
18:28 MTDiscord <wsor4035> merging in 5
18:29 MTDiscord <wsor4035> should just label leveldb with never use this unless you love playing russian roulette where you eventually will get shot
18:33 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yeah lol
18:34 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> anyways wait with merging, I'll take a look at luatic's comments
18:34 MTDiscord <wsor4035> source, played that game two or three times, i forgot
18:34 MTDiscord <wsor4035> then converted all the rest
18:34 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i saw, kinda would just say no
18:34 MTDiscord <wsor4035> i think it should be right under the graph
18:34 MTDiscord <wsor4035> but if you want to change it im 🤷
18:36 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> oh, right, it puts the footnote right at the bottom of the page
18:36 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yeah I would prefer it to be right below the table. let's merge it like this
18:36 MTDiscord <wsor4035> or, ill merge now then?
18:36 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yeah go ahead
18:37 MTDiscord <luatic> seems fine otherwise
18:41 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I feel like there could be more to write about sqlite database tuning that I'm not aware about but linking to phiresky's blog post should be good enough. it goes over WAL, synchronous mode and other common things I've heard about
18:41 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (it also mentions manual vacuuming on the database, of course)
18:42 MTDiscord <wsor4035> pokes @warr1024 wit ha stick
20:23 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> merging https://github.com/minetest/dev.luanti.org/pull/119 in 10m unless wsor has any other suggestions
20:23 MTDiscord <wsor4035> go for it
21:02 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> merging https://github.com/minetest/dev.luanti.org/pull/120 in 10m

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