Time Nick Message 04:50 nekobit s/opengl // 04:53 xmvczklm hi... im interested in mapgens and i heard that paramat was the main mapgen pro in this project??? where is he??? 04:54 MTDiscord gone, thankfully 04:55 MTDiscord lol 04:55 xmvczklm ?? 04:56 xmvczklm what do you mean by that 04:56 MTDiscord I don't know what happened but I think there was some drama? 04:57 xmvczklm about what?? 04:57 MTDiscord they had a reputation for being the king of nope, derived from closing a very large portion of issues, and driving people away 04:57 xmvczklm how did he drive ppl away? 04:59 MTDiscord closing valid issues, personality, and reputation based on the first two. it lead a lot of people to not bother reporting issues for a while 05:00 xmvczklm ehh... from what I saw of paramat on github he didn't seem like that to me. 05:01 xmvczklm same with IRC chat logs. 05:13 MTDiscord to lazy to keep finding more examples, but https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/10891, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2568, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3540 05:14 MTDiscord theses are ones that actually survived getting paramatted, plenty more that didnt 05:15 MTDiscord oh, and there is the infamous minetest drinking game post on the forum 05:20 xmvczklm ?? 05:20 xmvczklm in any case the reason why i'm asking for paramat is because he's the mapgen pro of this project. 05:20 xmvczklm Idk who really else there is to talk to 05:21 xmvczklm I guess you can make up some random indian character? 05:21 MTDiscord > https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues?q=is%3Aclosed+label%3A%22Won%27t+add%22 > https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues?q=is%3Aclosed+label%3A%22No+core+dev+support+long+term%22 > Open each image, have a drinking game, where, if paramat closes an issue or applies the "won't fix" or "no core dev support long term" label. Take a shot. You'll be dead of poisoning in an hour. 05:21 xmvczklm that will be inexplicably 50x smarter and faster coding than anybody i knew 05:24 MTDiscord paramat has been gone for a few years now, you might try duane, gael de sailly, Dokimi - however both of thoses are touch and go with the project 05:24 xmvczklm oh, because minecraft has crouching?? 05:25 MTDiscord ....what? 05:25 xmvczklm read the first PR you pasted?? 05:26 xmvczklm that PR looks to me like sapier wanted to copy something that minecraft does that minetest doesn't 05:26 xmvczklm calinou "pushed back", because even though sapier is a smart guy, he also isn't the entire project, it'd everyone's 05:27 xmvczklm and paramat backed up calinou. 05:27 xmvczklm how does this PR show that paramat is "difficult"? 05:27 MTDiscord well, first off its an issue, not a pr 05:28 MTDiscord its the repeated behavior of closing everything 05:28 xmvczklm Idk I don't see him closing anything?? 05:28 MTDiscord even other core devs have called what paramat did nonsense https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=382710#p382710 05:28 xmvczklm he marked the Issue as "completed" 05:28 MTDiscord > @paramat paramat closed this as completed on Mar 30, 2016 05:29 MTDiscord key word CLOSED 05:29 xmvczklm people are still welcome to (and they absolutely have had) a very thorough discussion 05:29 xmvczklm then how come it got reopened and reclosed by ShadowNinja?? 05:30 MTDiscord probably accident, that happens 05:30 xmvczklm also this type of issue is why there was some push to have a mailing list 05:31 xmvczklm you need to have discussion, but you can't keep it as an active item on a to do list when it's... a choice, not an Issue 05:33 MTDiscord its late, i dont feel like arguing about the past with you 05:33 xmvczklm dude wsor wtf man... why are you so hostile? 05:33 xmvczklm and why are you so "against" certain older members of minetest?? 05:34 MTDiscord and who else am i against thats and older member now? do tell 05:34 xmvczklm I believe we were talking about paramat and shadowninja 05:35 xmvczklm you can reread the past couple paragraphs. 05:35 MTDiscord It's true. wsor once poked me in the eye reviewing one of my prs 05:35 MTDiscord nah, i think your the one with an issue. only have been against paramat here 05:35 xmvczklm ??? 05:35 xmvczklm jordan can I talk to you in private? 05:35 MTDiscord No cause you're on the irc lol 05:36 xmvczklm well... why aren't you on irc? 05:36 xmvczklm this would be literally a non-issue 05:36 MTDiscord my only comment to shadowninja is that a close brought up you was probably an accident, i fail to see how that counts as being against them 05:36 MTDiscord i should say to that this is probably getting drastically offtopic for -dev 05:36 xmvczklm wsor: because shadowninja did the same thing you spoke bad about paramat for. 05:36 MTDiscord uh, no 05:36 xmvczklm wsor, it was a discussion that originated in here and i think it should end here. 05:36 MTDiscord Because the irc is poop on mobile 05:37 xmvczklm there should be no confusion or forum-changing added to the record. 05:37 xmvczklm please do not obfuscate discussion. 05:37 MTDiscord do you happen to go by another name per chance? 05:38 xmvczklm I don't, but I also don't see how that should be relevant 05:38 xmvczklm I know how I've been talking the entire time and you're needlessly rude and aggressive to me and berating of other older members 05:38 xmvczklm shame on you. 05:39 MTDiscord was midly curious since it seemed you might have been around before, but i didnt recoginize the name 05:39 MTDiscord anyways, i feel no shame for misconstrued points by you 05:40 xmvczklm yeah, but if hypothetically I had been somebody on an old name, you might try to come up with fake reasons to attack them 05:40 MTDiscord thats a bunch of nonsense 05:40 xmvczklm this conversation is context-free 05:40 xmvczklm well, that's what you're saying with your words, that it's "nonsense" 05:40 xmvczklm but I saw you doing it to me earlier before. it's subtle. 05:41 xmvczklm wsor, that's pretty toxic what you're doing. 05:41 xmvczklm I'm not sure if paramat was really as bad as you say... 05:41 xmvczklm it could be that you're the problem 05:41 MTDiscord your welcome to your own opinion 05:42 xmvczklm indeed. 05:43 xmvczklm jordan4ibanez: Can we please talk in private?? 05:43 xmvczklm Come onto IRC 05:44 xmvczklm use Revolution IRC if you're on android 05:44 MTDiscord but they cant see to do that since i stabbed there eyes out /s 05:45 xmvczklm why the hell would you joke about such a thing?? wacko 05:46 xmvczklm people get stalked on IRC all the time 05:46 MTDiscord because jordans comment is a joke, and im playing along with it 05:47 xmvczklm you're being ridiculous in other contexts though. i'd probably see that in a different light if you weren't at my throat less than 5 minutes ago. 05:47 MTDiscord and also poking fun at the absurdness of your comments here 05:48 xmvczklm [12:41 AM] your welcome to your own opinion 05:48 MTDiscord Oh sorry, I was reading the vulkan documentation. I do not want to install an irc client 05:49 xmvczklm jordan4ibanez: I think we need to discuss wsor. 05:49 MTDiscord Wat 05:49 xmvczklm If he's going to act like this to me then I'm concerned about him being part of the project. 05:50 xmvczklm By not jumping on IRC to chat you're forcing me to say this out loud in a public IRC channel. 05:50 MTDiscord 10891 i think he raised some points 05:50 MTDiscord it wasnt as simple as just adding an animation or something of the sort 05:50 MTDiscord not sure why he closed it like that though 05:50 xmvczklm because the issues list on the github issue TRACKER is a centralized minetest TODO list 05:51 xmvczklm it's not a discussion forum 05:51 MTDiscord nekobro: was a quick look for results. wasnt saying that all where bad, just a pattern 05:53 MTDiscord Well you could have said that anyways, that's not really a private thing to say lol 14:27 MTDiscord xmvczklm: i don't exactly get why you are annoying jordan; he's not a core dev, triager, moderator or anything of the sorts. 14:27 MTDiscord why are you dragging a bystander into this to bother them in private about someone else's perceived misbehavior, when supposedly it would be here in a public chat for everyone to see? 14:33 [MatrxMT] luatic: don't feed them please 18:34 Krock In case one of the core devs has some time: I'd like to have another review on #15378 before merging. 18:34 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15378 -- [NO SQUASH] Collision fixes by SmallJoker 19:28 sfan5 I was just going to ask if anyone else wants to review it 21:15 sfan5 does anyone understand the point of game#3159? 21:15 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/3159 -- `walls`: add ability to specify group `wall_connected` for blocks that the walls can connect to by alek13 21:21 xmvczklm zughy: excuse me, feed what? wsor caused a problem here. you should ban him from the discord. 21:22 xmvczklm nevermind, this is the last i'll say about the subject. jordan might not be a moderator or whatever, but he is a part of the community, and he's been around long enough to have known paramat and the others being character assassinated personally.