Time  Nick       Message
00:12 MTDiscord  <luatic> I think we should split our issue forms up along the lines of "graphical issue" which should force you to mention all the current details in the issue and "normal issue" which shouldn't
13:48 Krock      will merge #15365 #15364 #15368 #15372 in 20 minutes
13:48 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15365 -- Apply "and" to server list & content search terms by appgurueu
13:48 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15364 -- Fix model[] being lit wrongly if shaders are disabled by appgurueu
13:48 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15368 -- JsonCPP: restore '1.0.0+' compatibility by SmallJoker
13:48 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15372 -- replace occurences of 'forum.minetest.net' with 'forum.luanti.org' by veprogames
14:07 Krock      merging
14:11 Krock      done
15:07 MTDiscord  <luatic> good
15:09 MTDiscord  <luatic> i think maybe we should have something like a rejected label for #15208? "won't add / won't fix" don't cut it, the fundamental issue should be fixed, but not like this. i suppose "won't add" would work, but is intended for feature requests, not bugfix PRs.
15:09 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15208 -- add_area_node_boxes: Cap number of ignore node boxes considered to avoid memory exhaustion by goodspeed34
15:10 [MatrxMT]  <Zughy> I don't think it's necessary, it sounds like more work for triagers. Just use one of the two labels
15:12 [MatrxMT]  <Zughy> Actually, you don't need any. Roadmap is clear, just close it
15:12 [MatrxMT]  <Zughy> Oh nvm, I was looking at the wrong one. One of the two labels then
16:16 Desour     why is dedicated_server_step max 1 sec?
16:16 Desour     >:( always that unnecessary limits
16:31 MTDiscord  <luatic> Desour: I didn't know we had partially implemented #15219 already, now we just gotta make it configurable ;-)
16:31 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15219 -- Configurable max dtime
16:34 Krock      How many random settings do we want? Yes.
16:34 Desour     that issue is not about the setting. I'm speaking about the maximum for the minimum <`_´>
16:37 MTDiscord  <luatic> oh yeah. though frankly, a server step > 1s doesn't make sense, and a bit of idiot proofing is always a good idea.
16:38 MTDiscord  <luatic> Krock: I don't think the setting requested by Warr would be random, I think it'd be quite a good addition. The engine can't make a sensible tradeoff in general here.
16:41 MTDiscord  <luatic> I'll look into fixing collisions the proper way.
16:41 Krock      An easier solution would be to have a fixed ceiling of N seconds for any physics-related calculations (which already exists).
16:41 Krock      Configuring this simply means that the server is overloaded. Either due to inefficient mods or inefficient engine functions.
16:42 MTDiscord  <luatic> Krock: I don't think this should be restricted to physics or engine physics in particular.
16:42 MTDiscord  <luatic> "Losing time" generally and "falling behind" consistently is much more sensible.
16:43 Krock      Right. Delaying ABMs (which already happens) is also an approach to spread the load.
16:44 MTDiscord  <luatic> For ABMs we should really rework the scheduler to spread them better, Warr has another issue for that.
16:45 Desour     Krock: oh so abms are delayed to a later step if the current one already took too long?
16:46 Krock      Desour: #8645  from my faith memory
16:46 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8645 -- Improve ABM time budget handling. by lhofhansl
16:47 Desour     ah I see. thx!
16:47 Krock      I searched for issues but apparently this PR came before the complaint
16:48 Krock      nvm here's one #6928
16:48 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6928 -- Smoother ABM throttling
16:49 Krock      open PRs, not issues 8)
16:58 Desour     hm, so if the 200ms budget is reached, abms with fast interval essentially run less often
17:05 Krock      it affects all ABMs, but the mapblocks are picked at random
17:09 Desour     oops right
18:17 sfan5      found a 7 year old bug \o/
18:18 MTDiscord  <wsor4035> which one? 😛
18:18 markwiemer I remember encountering a bug that was opened before I was born, back in my Java Swing days
18:19 sfan5      nobody has noticed because it's inconsequential
18:29 sfan5      pushing https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/294a30e445ec9cd94d66efc8f94048606716ad35 after CI has passed