Time  Nick       Message
11:14 ROllerozxa would patches to get a headless server working on android be accepted upstream?
11:15 ROllerozxa it's a bit ridiculous and the usecase is dubious but maybe someone would find it useful being able to build and run a headless server in Termux
11:31 sfan5      generally yes unless the changes are too large or too intrusive
12:18 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> Hello, anyone opposed to the idea of having a MT team on Liberapay where any core staff can decide whether to hop on?
12:18 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> In case donations flow during FOSDEM
12:19 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> Money are split equally unless publicly declared (as in, people can see the split)
12:20 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> *is split
12:21 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> I'll wait for about 8 hours
12:29 grorp      ROllerozxa: yes. although I think the feature would be likely to break sporadically since few people will test it.
12:34 ROllerozxa yeah I would assume it'll not see much testing
12:34 ROllerozxa but it's not a lot of changes that need to be done, basically just disabling some android-specific codepaths primarily for the client that accidentally get included in a server build and break compilation
12:35 ROllerozxa I was working on getting it to build a while back and had already gotten mostly there, being able to cross-compile a server build with the NDK using dependencies provided from minetest_android_deps and then pushing it to my phone, but it currently still logs to logcat among other things
12:35 ROllerozxa (https://grejer.voxelmanip.se/uploads/minetestserver_android.png)
12:36 ROllerozxa and haven't tested it on Termux yet, the hardcoded dependency paths would probably interfere with linking against Termux-provided libraries and should be disabled there
12:37 ROllerozxa (also for testing that it still compiles in the future, the android CI could do a quick cross-compilation of the server using the NDK while it still has the android deps downloaded)
15:42 MTDiscord  <warr1024> It would really be nice if it didn't require turmux or any other external software ... but that would require some odd menu changes, wouldn't it?
15:50 MTDiscord  <danil_2461> ..no not really, it only makes for it to be used in a terminal
15:50 MTDiscord  <danil_2461> if youre gonna go that far as to host a minetest server on a phone you should atleast know how to use a terminal
16:08 MTDiscord  <rollerozxa> this is primarily about just being able to compile a dedicated server binary for Android in the first place
16:23 MTDiscord  <danil_2461> yeah
17:07 MTDiscord  <warr1024> I guess somebody could build an external launcher for it, or we could see UI experiments in rollertest downstream at some point...
17:08 MTDiscord  <warr1024> It seems like the people asking about hosting serious servers on their phone are likely to be the kind who don't know their way around a CLI 😅