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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2023-12-20

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13:41 sfan5 https://github.com/Archtec-io/bugtracker/issues/137
13:41 sfan5 ^ oh wow, look at all the references here
13:42 sfan5 maybe we have a discoverability problem because nobody can look at the terminal output on windows
13:42 sfan5 (I always run Minetest in a terminal here)
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13:47 Desour the warnings were also printed to chat iirc
13:47 Desour I've also ignored them for years
13:47 Desour or used that one setting to mute deprecation warnings
13:49 Desour a broken node will be more noticable than just a warnings. having both at once would be nice imo
13:51 MTDiscord <luatic> Desour: There is a setting for whether warnings are printed to chat; I have it on.
13:52 MTDiscord <luatic> "chat_log_level"
13:52 MTDiscord <.niklp> I think the major issue is that modders often look in the serverlog, but only very rarely into the client log
13:52 Desour ah, chat_log_level is error by default
13:52 Desour I don't remember when I've changed that, so I assumed I was using defaults x)
13:54 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Are we abandoning MSVC builds? I thought I heard something about that but I can't quite remember
14:04 rubenwardy Any chance you could readd the use_texture_alpha warning? But at node def time. Would help people find these issues
14:06 Desour it was at client nodedef load time iirc. warning at server node def time would require the server to read textures
14:47 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> irr#266 #14132
14:47 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14132 -- Debug Assertion Failure in MSVC xutility
14:47 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/irrlicht/issues/266 -- Invalid comparator: vector3df/vector2df operator<
14:47 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> I want that Unconfirmed Bug label replaced with a Bug label. 🙂
14:49 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> Unless someone else especially wants to try to fix it I am planning to add it to my TODO.
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15:09 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> I read the result of the test wrong. I guess I'll need to keep trying.
15:11 rubenwardy Desour: can't you just warn when it's a Boolean and not a string
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15:35 MTDiscord <.niklp> Many of those nodes set no use_texture_alpha param in their def
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16:48 Desour rubenwardy: I thought the issue was that mods don't provide use_texture_alpha at all. bools could of course cause a deprecation warning
17:03 MTDiscord <warr1024> IIRC we've had a separate deprecation warning for a while about mods not specifying use_texture_alpha and having it auto-detected.
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17:57 sfan5 if the api docs say booleans are deprecated then yes we should warn for that
18:09 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> re Debug Assertion Failure in MSVC: I don't think the problem is a NaN. It was a pretty good hypothesis, but the evidence seems to be pointing away from it.
18:15 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> It's the morelights_chain_ceiling.obj model from the morelights mod.
18:16 MTDiscord <savilli> What evidence is pointing away from it?
18:19 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> I added assertions for isnan to the operator< implementation this morning and none of them triggered, and now I applied your patch with some modifications and still got the same error as before.
18:19 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> If there were a NaN we should have been able to detect or deal with it.
19:14 MTDiscord <josiah_wi> Looks like sfan5 beat me to it. Very nice.
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19:42 MTDiscord <savilli> Custom comparators are full of surprises
20:05 sfan5 merging #12388, #14117, #14127, #14128 in 15m
20:05 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/12388 -- Extend bone override capabilities by appgurueu
20:05 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14117 -- Fix touch input on Linux by grorp
20:05 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14127 -- Enable segment heap on Windows by sfan5
20:05 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14128 -- Fix TouchScreenGUI ignoring server-sent pitch changes by grorp
20:05 sfan5 I hope someone has tested 12388, if not our users will be the testers
20:07 sfan5 given all the recent PRs by sfence I don't think there's hope we can properly test everything
20:08 jonadab "You never find all the bugs until the end users get their hands on it."
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20:15 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> Users as Guinea pigs
20:16 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> (Don't harm Guinea pigs; users maybe)
20:36 sfan5 anyone available to quickly look and give a +1? for this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/3f8284d62a9d906ac8b08499d585b9fe23043214
20:36 sfan5 conceptually trivial
20:37 sfan5 ...except I forgot to rename them properly
20:39 sfan5 I guess I'll just create a pr
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20:58 lhofhansl sfan5: I just noticed that #14127 crashes Minetest on exit from a Game. :(
20:58 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14127 -- Enable segment heap on Windows by sfan5
20:58 lhofhansl (see comment on the PR)
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21:55 sfan5 I'll check
22:02 sfan5 can confirm, but only happens after an in-game session
22:02 sfan5 0x00007ff79cca5c32 in LogStream::~LogStream() ()
22:06 sfan5 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/04dc4a10f03c2f7d28ae59c772bc726a9b6856cc/src/log.h#L293 there reference here looks a bit suspicious regarding destruction order, other than that no idea
22:06 sfan5 needs more debugging
23:12 MTDiscord <luatic> Is there any reason why we don't use script_log_unique for all deprecation warnings?
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