Time  Nick       Message
16:17 sfan5      the minetest windows consistently takes 2 seconds to show up on my system
16:17 sfan5      haven't investigated further but it may be someone broke something
16:25 rubenwardy yeah, it's the audio subsystem
16:25 rubenwardy @rollerozxa noticed it yesterday
16:26 rubenwardy with verbose you can see
16:26 rubenwardy 2023-10-29 22:26:24: INFO[Main]: Using default world at []
16:26 rubenwardy 2023-10-29 22:26:26: INFO[Main]: Audio: Global Initialized: OpenAL 1.1 ALSOFT 1.23.1, using OpenAL Soft
19:03 erle       sfan5 rubenwardy ROllerozxa are you maybe using pipewire? https://github.com/kcat/openal-soft/issues/930
19:03 erle       > context creation takes ~2s with pipewire (~1ms with pulse)
19:06 rubenwardy yes, I'm using pipewire
19:06 ROllerozxa yes, I use pipewire too
19:08 MTDiscord  <greenxenith> I also use pipewire but dont recall paying attention to window load times, I can test later
19:08 erle       well then it just might be that bug
19:09 erle       maybe this helps https://github.com/kcat/openal-soft/issues/930#issuecomment-1783561314
19:09 erle       > […] If all of those are set properly, it should set the appropriate OpenAL device fields and break out of waiting.
19:14 sfan5      a quick test reveals that this happens with bare openal too
19:14 sfan5      so not our fault
19:15 erle       that's how i understand the issue indeed
19:15 sfan5      https://github.com/kcat/openal-soft/issues/930
19:16 erle       is this a recent thing? (if so, maybe bisecting pipewire is an option and sending them a patch)
20:12 sfan5      merging #13942, #13944 in 10m
20:12 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13942 -- Revert "Don't trigger a key event if a key with the same associated char was pressed (#13773)" by erlehmann
20:12 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13944 -- [NOSQUASH] Fix out-of-bounds access in NodeDefManager::nodeboxConnects, and add more connected nodebox testnodes by Desour
20:17 lhofhansl  Hi all... When you get some time I'd like some eyes on #13881 . I'd like to get that in before I look again at shadows as there might be conflicts.
20:17 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13881 -- Continuation of x2048's implementation of 'Godrays' by lhofhansl
21:36 MTDiscord  <josiah_wi> #13939 is a trivial cleanup PR similar to the updatePauseState one.
21:36 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13939 -- Extract updateClouds method from updateFrame by JosiahWI
21:40 sfan5      would be nice if someone here could verify that the APK here works https://github.com/minetest/minetest/actions/runs/6698740308