Time  Nick       Message
19:41 erle       just so it does not get lost, i have solved the crash in the parser. unfortunately, it seems that the color format conversion code inherited from irrlicht in general is less-than-carefully written. if anyone refactors that part of the engine, i highly suggest to pepper it with assertions. https://github.com/minetest/irrlicht/issues/236#issuecomment-1724184258
19:44 erle       i'll inform upstream irrlicht and see what they do
19:44 erle       it's their problem too after all
20:18 MTDiscord  <josiah_wi> Does upstream irrlicht have activity recently? I was under the impression the upstream project was all but completely dead.
20:19 erle       josiah_wi what exactly gives you that impression?
20:22 erle       josiah_wi the latest forum post by CuteAlien (the main dev?) is from … an hour ago or so.
20:26 erle       josiah_wi looking at sourceforge, the latest update to trunk was 2023-08-17 … which is a months ago but since the author is still alive, i suggest to not declare it dead prematurely
21:12 MTDiscord  <josiah_wi> I was given that impression here by people saying development was mostly inactive and they weren't fixing stuff, and by our decision to fork.
21:16 rubenwardy the last irrlicht release with features was Nov 2012. There's been bugfix releases since, but we released that waiting for irrlicht to fix stuff was no longer feasible
21:16 rubenwardy *realised
21:19 MTDiscord  <josiah_wi> Thanks Ruben, that's good to know. BTW, when you have time, I'd like to know what needs to happen to introduce Catch2 for unit testing Minetest. You had said you had trouble getting it to work with CLion, but the process for running unit tests shouldn't have changed at all so I want to be sure I'm following the right process.
21:39 erle       josiah_wi the thing is, irrlicht is developed, but it does not do releases often
21:41 erle       i don't know where “they weren't fixing stuff” comes from, sfan5 submitted a few patches and they were all taken except for one (which may or may not cause a race condition)
21:41 erle       maybe i missed something
21:52 MTDiscord  <mistere_123> I want to forceload a block in a reasonable timeframe, but https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13823
21:53 MTDiscord  <mistere_123> it wont forceload a block in the sky until a player looks up at it
21:53 MTDiscord  <mistere_123> Is there a hack solution?
21:54 erle       is this a regression?
21:57 MTDiscord  <mistere_123> dunno. There's minetest.load_area(pos1[, pos2]). I would kinda expect forceload_block to actually load the area though
22:01 MTDiscord  <mistere_123> heh, not even minetest.load_area makes it work
22:02 erle       i suggest to try in earlier versions to see if it even used to work at all like you think it should
22:03 erle       i mean, if it never worked, there might be a misunderstanding
22:03 erle       and if it worked, it might be a regression
22:05 erle       mistere_123 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=25869
22:08 MTDiscord  <mistere_123> Yep, I based my attempt off of that
22:16 MTDiscord  <mistere_123> I found a hack using set_node, I think
22:18 erle       tell?
22:29 MTDiscord  <mistere_123> well, im not sure of it