Time  Nick         Message
13:28 MisterE[m]   Why is there a rendering freeze whenever media file is loaded into memory (from dynamic media)? That seems like a stupid, unnecessary bug which sours the benefits of dynamic media.
13:39 sfan5        because it happens on the main thread
13:49 Zughy[m]     Any chance to see that freeze going away in the future? Right now dynamic media seem useful only during in-game loading screens
13:49 rubenwardy   surely loading a single media file isn't that slow, is it waiting for network?
13:50 MisterE[m]   rubenwardy: No, its the loading into memory that is the problem. It causes a stutter.
13:50 MisterE[m]   Ruben, if you have time, join a.e.s. test server on the server list to see.
13:51 Zughy[m]     Every time you hit a sign, it starts downloading the arena BGM
13:52 MisterE[m]   Well, for any tracks you don't have yet ^^ and every time it finished downloading, it loads the track into memory. That causes a stuter for a half second, which looks jank.
13:54 rubenwardy   ohh, for sound?
13:55 rubenwardy   I believe this is fixed by the sounds mega PR
13:55 rubenwardy   give that a try, you only need it clientside
13:55 rubenwardy   Enhancement: Long sounds (> 3 seconds) (i.e. music) are streamed (not over network, but from file). So, the client doesn't freeze anymore when music from the sound-pack or dynamic media is played.
13:55 rubenwardy   #12764
13:55 ShadowBot    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/12764 -- Sound refactor and improvements by Desour
13:56 MisterE[m]   oooh. I will.
13:56 MisterE[m]   But, is there any chance of that being merged :(
13:58 MisterE[m]   nice: this fixes both dynamic media and regular media:
13:58 * MisterE[m] uploaded an image: (19KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/cdYPapKYjshpYcuuUfRDlHWj/image.png >
14:28 sfan5        it's waiting on #12774 as you can see, after that is merged Desour will probably rebase it
14:28 ShadowBot    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/12774 -- [nosquash] Devtest: Add jukebox and branding iron by Desour
14:28 sfan5        we should prioritize this for 5.7
14:50 MisterE[m]   YAY! Please do! It would be great to be able to use dynamic media to load bgm tracks on AES; we can't until this freezing bug is mitigated.
14:51 rubenwardy   I had a nit pick with #12774 but it doesn't matter that much, so approved
14:51 ShadowBot    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/12774 -- [nosquash] Devtest: Add jukebox and branding iron by Desour
15:25 Zughy[m]     beware that there already a few features queuing up for 5.7 and that feature freeze is probably not that distant (it's one of the next meeting points) https://github.com/minetest/minetest/milestone/20
16:11 MTDiscord    <Warr1024> Re: that media loading thing, it also happens with texturemods, esp. applying new textures to an ent or a HUD.  It'd be great to get those fixed as well.  I'd be fine with just getting a placeholder texture for the few frames after the new texture is set but before the media loading/building thread returns the actual texture.  For ents or HUDs we could just display whatever was there before, if anything, or leave it transparent, while
16:11 MTDiscord    the new media loads...
18:06 MTDiscord    <MisterE> The sound PR is ready. Yes, we need to fix textures too. Lets do media now for 5.7, since is is a headache that is already solved.
18:07 MisterE[m]   *sounds now