Time Nick Message 11:06 rubenwardy Snap is on 5.4.1, should probably be removed from the website 11:06 rubenwardy or perstering snap to update it added to the release checklist 11:54 sfan5 it is on there 20:25 MTDiscord Does anyone know of any PRs or branches adding deferred rendering? 21:40 MTDiscord Ah I see you in here Sfan5 21:40 MTDiscord Hi 21:41 MTDiscord I got told that you are maintaining the public server list 21:41 MTDiscord In that case I want to draw your attention to a server called "VineMine [EN/RU]" 21:42 MTDiscord The admin is using bots to boost his rank in the list and admits that publicly 21:42 erle why what is there 21:42 erle also this channel is for engine discussion 21:42 MTDiscord Oh sorry 21:43 erle dw i make the same mistake all the time 21:43 MTDiscord I just got told that I probably should try to reach out for Sfan5 and I saw messages from him in here 22:11 kilbith @x2048 come to me in IRC so we can discuss rendering 22:27 erle anyone aware of this rendering bug? https://mister-muffin.de/p/xB39.png 22:27 erle Warr1024 this is the wooden ladder in nodecore that looks invisible when it is surrounded by items 22:27 erle might be a nodecore bug, not sure 22:28 MTDiscord @Warr1024 22:28 erle as soon as i remove one of the items, the ladder becomes visible again 22:34 MTDiscord oh, wow, never heard of that. 22:35 MTDiscord wouldn't be surprised if it were a victim of unexpected consequences of that nodebox rendering optimization thing 22:36 MTDiscord NodeCore is definitely not doing anything special there. 22:42 erle Warr1024 can you try to reproduce? 22:46 MTDiscord Well, I wasn't able to on an old 5.5.0-dev snapshot, I'll have to try on a 5.6.0-dev stream... 22:49 MTDiscord no luck on Minetest 5.6.0-dev-8756b7a73 22:54 MTDiscord hmm, well, ... it occurs to me that I was not necessarily keeping my minetest and irrlichtmt versions in sync, and the irrlichtmt version number only seemed to have a release, not an exact commit hash... 23:06 erle might be that this is another miscompile on my end or your end … who knows lol 23:08 erle Warr1024 or maybe it depends on rendering settings. for example, some nodeboxes from my studs mod appear black if “smooth lighting” is not on. 23:25 erle Warr1024, i am not able to reproduce this with a 5.6.0-dev snapshot 23:26 erle also i think the debug view should show the exact commit and buld flags hehe 23:39 MTDiscord I just updated to latest and I can't repro it. 23:39 MTDiscord I could try smooth lighting... 23:39 MTDiscord would be weird if that were the one that affect it tho 23:40 erle try any options. but in the end it might be a miscompile on my part. the build system of minetest just really sucks. 23:40 erle i'll get to it if i ever hack on the engine again 23:40 MTDiscord Turning off smooth lighting didn't do anything other than remind me why I used to play with it turned off back when I used to play games where exact light levels were very important. 23:40 erle and turning on or off shaders? does that something? 23:41 MTDiscord I never really thought that the build system of MT sucks, in that at least it gets wrong only like 10% or less of what it COULD get wrong. Bit cumbersome, but all it needed was a little TLC and one big-ass wrapper script :-D 23:42 MTDiscord I can't possibly exhaustively test every possible combination of settings. 23:42 MTDiscord You saw this on 5.5.0-release and only that version? 23:44 MTDiscord if it were a dropped item then I could understand it, because those entities can sometimes end up delayed in showing up (that was one case where I ended up needing the ABM+LBM because the LBM worked like 99.99% of the time but I really needed 100%) but a simple nodebox node like a placed ladder is really just purely an engine thing. 23:54 erle Warr1024 i only say so often that the build system sucks because i actually know for sure how to prevent the kind of scenario where with every single bug you have to ask yourself if the binary was built correctly. 23:54 erle a friend of mine once got a minetest where water did not render and i am pretty sure that it was a build that did not correspond to the source code. 23:54 erle i mean probably to some source code, but not the one of minetest. 23:55 erle Warr1024 does the bug occur in 5.4.1 actually? 23:55 erle for you