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pgimeno |
can someone please share the patch to disable zstd saving? |
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sfan5 |
http://sprunge.us/t45EiP?diff |
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pgimeno |
thanks! |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> what did it break/why was the patch needed? |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> compatibiltiy with 5.4.0 |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> so with 5.5 release it will be live? |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> or no? |
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sfan5 |
it didn't break anything |
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sfan5 |
you just can't use new maps on older clients, never could |
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pgimeno |
maybe it would be a good idea to add read support in one version and write support in the next |
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pgimeno |
that way, if the new version is released with critical problems, people can go back to the previous one |
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pgimeno |
to be clear, I mean to disable zstd writing in this version |
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pgimeno |
is zstd the only reason to bump the map version? |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> when was the last time a map version incompatibility like this was implemented? |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> and more importantly, how was that handled? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> 5.1 or 5.2 if i recall correctly |
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sfan5 |
0.4.16 and it wasn't any different |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/049256573b6fc379ab4cd1f867f33504de6abeee#diff-a9b4955fbefbb32a04ffcf1df1b952a5898eb223ab2d8d61e1640f4b7fd4c443 version 28 was 5.1, thats what i was remembering |
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x2048 |
So quiet here... erlehmann, if you are here, I saw you posted a link to property based testing, and I'm wondering if discussion went anywhere. |
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erlehmann |
x2048 the person working on unit tests is josiah_wi, i advise you to check how that is going |
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erlehmann |
x2048 do you want advice for something specific? like have specific code you want to test and do not know how? |
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x2048 |
erlehmann, well, I was just thinking how we could apply PBT to Minetest as a whole and had two ideas, so I wondered whether there's work ongoing for hollistic testing and whether it makes sense to start with it. |
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x2048 |
One idea is to create a 'fuzzer' game that would continuously play sequences of game actions, like modifying world or moving enities. |
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x2048 |
Another idea was to create a bot client. |
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erlehmann |
x2048 the bot client would be a good idea for the CI. look into waspsaliva, it is a client made by cora. |
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erlehmann |
x2048 you know cora |
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erlehmann |
right? |
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erlehmann |
x2048 regarding a fuzzer game, if --random-input was deterministic with a seed that would help A LOT |
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specing |
Test_User has a bot client |
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erlehmann |
or how the option is called |
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specing |
(headless) |
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erlehmann |
oh nice how |
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erlehmann |
i mean i assume anon5 has some kind of bot client too |
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specing |
I believe that it involved a lot of swearing |
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specing |
due to the interesting things that happen with authentication |
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erlehmann |
show and tell |
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erlehmann |
where is the code lebowski |
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specing |
contact test user for that |
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erlehmann |
specing, literally how |
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specing |
how what? Ask him |
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erlehmann |
where? forum, irc, oysterity, somewhere else? |
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specing |
this without -dev |
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x2048 |
Had to step away... Thank you erlehmann, specing. I'll try to find josiah_wi and Test_User. erlehmann, have you got experience with PBT? |
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MTDiscord |
<josiah_wi> x2048 I keep track of this development channel from the relay. I am not currently focused on making tests in general, but rather bringing back a unit testing setup for IrrlichtMt, because I wanted to write some quick functionality checks for WebP stuff and found there were no tests to use as a reference. |
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MTDiscord |
<josiah_wi> I'm taking the time to review and modify some of the old tests that were removed so that it can be useful to other devs. I'm leaving out any tests that I can see are not unit tests or are particularly flimsy. So most of what's getting restored are simple functionality tests of core Irrlicht data types, that had better not break or there's a problem. |
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