Time  Nick       Message
10:32 Krock      Feel free to test #9923. There should be a demo mod somewhere in the conversation to check whether all callbacks are run.
10:32 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9923 -- Fix inventory swapping not calling all callbacks by appgurueu
10:33 Krock      I did not excessively test the callbacks  but whether swaps are performed in the right conditions and that script-returned values are respected.
10:33 Krock      so indirectly also tested callbacks because without those it would not work properly
11:28 sfan5      I did not want to discourage merging it
13:22 pyrollo    hi
13:23 pyrollo    Will merge trivial bugfix #10351 in 10 mn
13:23 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/10351 -- Fix game crashing if dropped an item with undefined light_source by pyrollo
13:35 pgimeno    pyrollo: do you think it's convenient to have auto-rotation around an arbitrary axis?
13:36 pyrollo    You mean for entities ?
13:36 pgimeno    yes
13:36 pyrollo    Yes, actually I had a use case.
13:37 pyrollo    I wanted to throw many blocs in the air with random rotation.
13:37 pyrollo    There is a way to do it on Lua side but it may saturate network exchanges with many packets
13:38 pyrollo    Started to do something, but I have a periodic rotation pos reset I dont know where
13:38 pgimeno    well it's doable but it's calculation intensive
13:38 pyrollo    Precision: my use case was for Kidscode
13:39 pgimeno    can't you do that with animations?
13:39 pyrollo    Why should it be intensive ? It's like automatic rotation but along two other angles
13:39 pgimeno    because automatic_rotate uses one of the built-in Euler angles in Irrlicht
13:40 pgimeno    but you can't easily rotate around an arbitrary axis using Eulers, the easiest way is to convert to matrix form, then rotate, then convert to Eulers again
13:41 pgimeno    you could make a bunch of animations that rotate the blocks around several axes, and pick one animation at random
13:44 pyrollo    The direction I started to go was doing the same thing as here :
13:44 pyrollo    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/client/content_cao.cpp#L1144
13:44 pyrollo    for X and Z
13:45 pyrollo    These are also Euler angle, shouldn't this be ok on perf pov?
13:46 pgimeno    yes but the result is not rotation around an arbitrary axis, it's rotation around three Euler angles
13:46 pyrollo    Ok, sorry,my answer was not right :) I dont want to rotate around arbitrary axis, just being able to rotate around tree angles is ok
13:46 pgimeno    https://media2.giphy.com/media/xThuWiCVeScDkPkEmY/giphy.gif
13:46 pyrollo    Visual effect has been tested using Lua, it's ok :)
13:47 pgimeno    it seems very usage-specific
13:47 pyrollo    It's difficult to figure out the difference :D
13:52 pgimeno    then maybe you could do with even fewer animations, if you do it with animations
13:52 pyrollo    Because of you I'm getting headake watching video about 3D euler angles :)
13:52 pgimeno    sorry :)
13:53 pyrollo    The use case is, for example, "visually" (not acurately) simulate an explosion throwing blocks in every direction
13:54 pyrollo    Without rotation speed, they seem to be quite static
13:54 pgimeno    hence, animations!
13:54 pyrollo    Maybe Y rotation is suficent if Y axis can be oriented
13:54 pyrollo    Yes but with animations, I may have to redefine a lot of things ?
13:55 pyrollo    For that, I'm using simple entities with corresponding node textures.
13:56 pgimeno    you can use set_rotation to place the cubes in an arbitrary rotation
13:57 pyrollo    I did it, but it does not look natural to have cubes keeping their angle. I'll try with a single rotation
13:57 pgimeno    that's how you could make the propeller of a plane, for example - you create the model so that the axis of the blade is vertical, and rotate it when it's attached to the plane so that it rotates in the direction of the plane
13:59 pyrollo    If I understand coreclty Euler angles, I can rotate on arbitrary angle, if I rotate around the third angle, the two first angles defines my rotation angle
13:59 pyrollo    The thing is, I guess Y is the first one. I have to test it
13:59 pyrollo    *rotation axis, not angle
14:01 pgimeno    applying several rotations on different axes continuously (as you can easily do with Euler angles) is not equivalent to rotating around a certain axis. The rotating axis keeps varying.
14:03 pyrollo    Sorry, I gtg. Thanks for these geometric elements, I was not aware of that. I'll try some stuff tomorrow an try to show you if any interesting result comes from
15:31 pgimeno    !tell pyrollo animated cube (untested): http://www.formauri.es/personal/pgimeno/temp/cuberot_anim.b3d - the animation has 49 frames but the first and last are equal, so use only the first 48 to loop properly
15:31 ShadowBot  pgimeno: O.K.
16:08 Lone_Wolf  Should I center the text with the middle of the screen or is that too likely to break something? https://i.imgur.com/FAchsPV.png
16:09 Krock      breaks shooter
16:09 Krock      well it would be distracting there
16:10 Lone_Wolf  Should I just shove the infotext in the top-right then?
16:10 rubenwardy what's wrong where it is?
16:10 Krock      why does this need to be changed?
16:11 Lone_Wolf  Because it conflicts with the chat for me
16:11 rubenwardy I can see a new HUD API which has all the default elements as elements, and they can be changed
16:11 Lone_Wolf  See https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453772264542961666/748293921809104927/unknown.png
16:24 Lone_Wolf  https://i.imgur.com/vZQ657b.png | https://i.imgur.com/GkZElMt.png
16:25 Lone_Wolf  Hmmmm, might be able to center it between the center of the screen and the right side of the screen
16:56 Lone_Wolf  Welp, got that working. Guess I'll do a few more tests and start the PR
18:57 rubenwardy #10085
18:57 rubenwardy #10075
18:57 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/10085 -- Use JSON for favorites, move server list code to Lua by rubenwardy
18:57 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/10075 -- Clean up server-side translations, remove global variable by rubenwardy
19:00 sfan5      #10185
19:00 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/10185 -- Change default ambient occlusion gamma to 1.8 by sfan5
19:08 rubenwardy I'll TAL