Time  Nick      Message
00:01 paramat   #8805 ready, attends to remaining issues in mudflow code
00:01 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8805 -- Mapgen v6: Various mudflow code improvements by paramat
13:37 kilbith   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/8680#issuecomment-522011032
13:43 kilbith   we are going to implement a wiziwig editor soon
13:44 kilbith   *wysiwyg
14:01 sfan5     at this point maybe you should just include a webview ;)
14:07 kilbith   there's only CEF3 afaik, but it's way too heavy
14:12 kilbith   if only we had support for tables, you could have an entire forum ingame
14:16 pmp-p     cef3 is heavy but the fork of android kitkat webview is not so heavy
14:17 pmp-p     ( and at least it helps to deal with ui on android )
14:29 pmp-p     couple https://ultralig.ht and native android webview seems a nice compromise for size/speed/maintenance
14:31 pmp-p     kilbith: an editor like https://github.com/dddomodossola/remi/tree/master/editor but in lua ?
14:33 kilbith   pmp-p: integrated ingame and less complex
14:33 kilbith   kitkat webview is written in java, yes?
14:33 pmp-p     nope c++ it's webkit
14:33 pmp-p     and there's also a chromium version but more heavy and capable
14:34 pmp-p     i prefer the webkit with remi toolkit it's just fine
14:34 pmp-p     but i've not yet found something like remi for lua ( i'm starting )
14:37 kilbith   https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base/+/a5408e6/core/java/android/webkit/WebView.java
14:37 kilbith   I only can find this
14:38 pmp-p     yeah it's integrated you just add a webview (transparent usually) layer to the app and you're set
14:39 kilbith   so that solely works on android?
14:40 pmp-p     well no thanks to ultralig.ht
14:40 kilbith   ah ok
14:40 pmp-p     need a bit of code but nothing too hard
14:44 pmp-p     kilbith: if you are interested i have a demo and the xml ui somewhere
14:44 kilbith   sure
14:46 pmp-p     uploading that my line is shitty please endure :p
14:46 Sokomine  kilbith: tables would indeed be great :-) but i'm afraid they'd be very difficult to implement. hope your pr gets merged soon. additional stuff can be added later on
14:47 Sokomine  pmp-p: the question is: is webview or that other lib trustworty?
14:47 pmp-p     webview is a secure sandbox
14:47 pmp-p     at least on droid
14:47 kilbith   wish the PR handling was more effective :/
14:47 pmp-p     for ultra maybe need review
14:51 pmp-p     kilbith: https://pmp-p.github.io/aiodemo_webview.mp4 the webview is overlaying all the time with empty html and is only filled at 00:59 with more
14:51 pmp-p     no special app right is needed because server is localhost ( could be c/c++/lua or in this case python )
14:52 pmp-p     even java but .. erk
14:54 kilbith   pmp-p: thanks I'll experiment with this
14:57 pmp-p     kilbith: if you have already built minetest for android ( which i havent't yet got time to figure out ) i could help
14:58 kilbith   no we don't target Android actually
14:58 pmp-p     well if you decide to play with it i'm around
15:04 Sokomine  pmp-p: have you already offered your help to the other devs? an andoird developer was searched for a long time. compiling there doesn't seem to be easy
15:04 pmp-p     indeed that's also my problem ...
15:05 pmp-p     i've got a quarrel with my graddle since last year
15:05 pmp-p     and i've went to something less frustrating
15:06 Sokomine  don't even know about graddle. but i'm glad that an android client is provided. a lot of players can use the game that way. mt even runs quite nicely on my old, even-then cheap phone. this is very impressive
15:07 pmp-p     Sokomine: but i could help on integration if someone handles gradle ( or better has another build system )
15:08 pmp-p     i suck at c++ but i can do C and if forced to, then some java
15:09 Sokomine  i don't even know what build system was used before. but this is -dev - so devs will read this and perhaps come up with something
15:10 pmp-p     ok then
15:11 pmp-p     here's the app ui layout of the demo video https://wyz.fr/8Mf
15:12 pmp-p     trick is the 3D engine is hijacking the GLES struct pointer or surfaceview at startup
15:13 pmp-p     i guess it could work with minetest too
15:14 pmp-p     so the whole app is a standard java app activity not a native one
17:52 sfan5     merging #8804 in 5 minutes
17:52 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8804 -- Minor code refactoring in connection.cpp by sfan5