Time Nick Message 00:13 rubenwardy handy list https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+sort%3Aupdated-desc+label%3A%22One+approval%22 00:16 rubenwardy merging #8537 in 10 00:16 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8537 -- Small buildbot improvements by EvidenceBKidscode 00:19 rubenwardy #8580 00:19 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8580 -- Fix command line handling by mmattes 00:19 rubenwardy and 00:32 rubenwardy should #8537 be squashed? nerzhul? 00:32 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8537 -- Small buildbot improvements by EvidenceBKidscode 00:32 rubenwardy probably, the changes are small and related 00:34 rubenwardy hey paramat 00:42 rubenwardy has bendeutsch definitely left Minetest? 01:18 rubenwardy So, Github has an annoying "feature" where it loses the last updated time from all PRs when your force push to master 01:30 paramat oh um 01:31 paramat not sure about 'left', see what they wrote in one of their WIP PRs 01:31 rubenwardy (from github support https://i.rubenwardy.com/gryJI.png ) 01:32 paramat ahh 01:32 paramat i noticed that too, 01:33 paramat thought it was a bug 01:34 paramat here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7517#issuecomment-502256493 01:36 paramat recent slow dev is frustrating for contributors, so i can understand why some are drifting away 01:38 paramat not saying that's the case with bendeutsch though, more generally 02:14 rubenwardy https://words.steveklabnik.com/how-to-be-an-open-source-gardener 03:04 rubenwardy I would like to close #7740 03:05 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7740 -- client connect using proxy, how to made it? or SOCKS5? 03:05 rubenwardy thoughts 12:28 BuckarooBanzai !tell paramat i read your message about contributors loosing interest in their PR's. it would be nice to know who actively works on the game and who is "responsible" for what. That would make the whole thing a little more transparent IMO... 12:28 ShadowBot BuckarooBanzai: O.K. 14:25 nerzhul There was a doc about this in the dev wiki if i remember 14:34 rubenwardy Maybe you're thinking of the deprecated subsystem thing! 16:19 twoelk rubenwardy: I just created a new category (Organisation) on the dev-wiki, did you have further plans with the moddingbook pages? mind if I collect the stub's and links into one page? 16:36 rubenwardy I have no further plans, I didn't know how to delete them 18:57 Krock will push https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8608#issuecomment-504103472 in 15 minutes 19:16 Krock pushing 20:22 Daisae I see a bug in a mods hudbars and mana with them overlapping the user area below. The mods' author, Wuzzy, does not know the problem. Do you think it is with the mod or the minetest framework ? Here is an example. https://files.catbox.moe/sgqimc.png 20:22 Daisae It happens with other users also, apparently. I tested with 2 DPI values and it made no difference. 20:23 Wuzzy i have heard of the problem, many people were reporting it, but *I* was unable to reproduce it 20:23 Wuzzy i have no idea if it really is hudbar's (=my) fault or not 20:24 Wuzzy other people were coming from Windows and only report the bug for certain DPI values ... strange 20:25 Krock Daisae: how about the application's compatibility options? What did you configure there regarding the scaling? 20:25 Daisae I am seeing it on Xorg. 20:25 Krock oof 20:26 Daisae All 'scaling' options in minetest.conf had been unset/default. 20:26 Krock using a recent irrlicht library, I assume? Shouldn't make a difference, though 20:26 Daisae irrlicht 1.8.4 20:27 Krock same here 20:28 Krock does it happen with a specific WM or for this machine? are there any similarities between the reported cases? 20:28 Wuzzy Krock: did you ever had hudbars screw up the HUD? 20:28 Krock Wuzzy: not sure. at least I don't remember any case. testing. 20:29 Krock works with XFCE, Irrlicht 1.8.4, ~92 DPI 20:29 Wuzzy try other DPI 20:29 Wuzzy note most frequent bug reports come from windows ppl 20:30 Daisae I tried configuring DPI=72 (the default) in minetest.conf. That made no difference. 20:30 Krock dpi 62 made no difference 20:30 Daisae I can try running with fullscreen=yes . , which bypasses at least some things of the WM. 20:31 Wuzzy see latest forum posts for ppl reporting these offset problems: 20:31 Wuzzy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11153&start=150 20:31 Daisae It will take me away longer because I can not switch to IRC then. 20:31 Krock according to the docs, screen_dpi does not have any effect on xorg 20:31 Krock Alt-Tab? 20:33 Daisae Krock: What about alt-tab? If I do fullscreen=yes then alt-tab and virtual workspaces are unavailable. 20:35 Krock ah okay. til. 20:36 Wuzzy Daisae: does it happen if you disable mana? 20:40 Wuzzy so, Krock, given that this HUDBARS problem appears to only occur to some people and not some other people, do you think it is far-fetched to believe the fault might be in Minetest, not hudbars? 20:41 Wuzzy i can't find a logical explanation why it would be triggered by the mod. i don't even have access to dpi setting as modder, haven't i? 20:42 Krock it's surely a HUD issue. If the C++ minimap is not affected by these offsets, then it's a Minetest HUD problem. Otherwise it's irrlicht 20:42 Daisae It remains the same even with fullscreen=true , filtering and shaders disabled. 20:42 Wuzzy thx 20:42 Daisae usully i have anisotropic filters + shaders. 20:42 Krock the HUD uses values from -1 to 1 so you don't have to care about DPI 20:43 Krock but apparently the offsets are scaled differently, depending on its type 20:43 Daisae Krock: have you tried HUD bars with tis irrlicht? 20:43 Krock i.e. statbars are different to images 20:44 Krock "tis"' 20:44 Daisae this 20:44 Krock what do you mean by that? 20:44 Daisae version 1.8.4 20:44 Daisae I know you have that version, but not whether you tried HUDbars with it. 20:45 Krock tested it around when I said dpi 62 made no difference 20:49 Daisae Is the selection of Anisotropic ignored/unused if 'Texturing: No Filter' is selected ? 20:53 Daisae Wuzzy: It is the same problem, even if Mana is disabled.