Time  Nick        Message
13:47 rubenwardy  can Windows builds be made without `minimal`?
13:52 sfan5       of course
13:53 rubenwardy  is it possible to remove minimal from ubuntu debs/etc too? Not sure how that would work
13:54 sfan5       just removing it from the install scripts would be easiest
13:54 sfan5       you could also talk to the maintainers and hope they listen to your request
14:22 rubenwardy  is apt clever enough to remove files that are no longer present in a newer version of a .deb?
14:25 jas_        depends on the post script methinks (dunno tho)
14:27 rubenwardy  #8312
14:30 rubenwardy  I've built the .deb and verified that minimal is not present
14:30 rubenwardy  however, the format of the .deb is weird
14:31 rubenwardy  minetest files are at     control.tgz/./usr/       rather than     control.tgz/./usr/minetest/
14:31 rubenwardy  this is probably just a .deb thing though
14:31 rubenwardy  ok no it's not
14:31 rubenwardy  it's probably my fault
14:32 rubenwardy  I built it on Arch like this:    cmake . && make -j3 && cpack -G DEB
14:33 rubenwardy  ah wait
14:33 rubenwardy  the deb I'm comparing it to is also 5.0.0
14:33 rubenwardy  so it's probably fine
14:57 sfan5       you'll want to build a deb with whatever scripts debian uses
14:57 sfan5       not using cmake
14:57 sfan5       <rubenwardy> is apt clever enough to remove files that are no longer present in a newer version of a .deb?
14:57 sfan5       that's (one of) the point of using proper package
20:35 paramat     nerzhul sfan5 rubenwardy shall we release now? i suggest not bothering with 8312, not a blocker
20:39 paramat     well, i mean, i'm neutral about 8312, just don't see it as essential right now
20:40 rubenwardy  Worth removing it from the official portable windows builds at least
20:40 rubenwardy  For the installer version, it's already disabled by default
20:40 rubenwardy  Actually, heh
20:54 paramat     i'm happy for others to decide
21:07 paramat     forum quote "I think restriction to play any game based on age is very ageistic, which is the same as racism." heh
21:08 sofar       saw that, cried because that person must have a horrible life
21:09 GreenDimond I think I just died a little
21:14 rubenwardy  Lol
21:16 sofar       is 5.0 out yet? I want to update clearlinux already
21:17 GreenDimond If it was you would know
21:17 sfan5       it's not
21:41 paramat     do devs have time to release now? i'm around for hours
21:50 sfan5       I do
21:59 paramat     rubenwardy ? not sure i can wait for 8312 to be added
21:59 rubenwardy  Sure
22:08 paramat     so, conf.example is up to date, i checked that early on 2nd march
22:08 paramat     MTG is ready
22:12 paramat     translation string freeze started on 23rd feb and there have been no string changes since
22:17 paramat     the translation setting file is up to date
22:29 sfan5       do we have a changelog ready?
22:33 rubenwardy  there's a partial change log
22:33 rubenwardy  there are 188 commits which haven't been checked
22:34 rubenwardy  git log --oneline 6b102..HEAD | wc -l           ==>       188
22:34 sfan5       guess the changelog will come late as always
22:34 rubenwardy  lol
22:34 paramat     yeah
22:34 sfan5       https://dev.minetest.net/Releasing_Minetest << regarding " Update version in source "
22:34 sfan5       that doesn't seem correct anymore since we're already on 5.0
22:35 sfan5       well nevermind
22:35 sfan5       the script will still do the correct thingh
22:50 nerzhul     go ahead and release, i will perform the android release build tomorrow :)
22:50 nerzhul     (and publish in public beta to ensure we don't have problems)
22:51 sfan5       rubenwardy: I guess this means minimal should be included?
23:05 paramat     seems so, i prefer #8312 doesn't cause a delay
23:13 sfan5       ...since when does flymode fly in the direction you are looking? (
23:13 paramat     only with 'pitch move' on, off by default
23:14 sfan5       it's not off by default
23:14 paramat     odd https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/1af248b4097f779274412b020057fff7fbbd6da4/src/defaultsettings.cpp#L46
23:15 sfan5       did I accidentally press L?
23:15 sfan5       oh yea I did
23:15 sfan5       why does this even have a keybind? nobody needs this
23:15 paramat     phew =)
23:16 paramat     i can understand people wanting to toggle it in-game, it's quite popular
23:18 sfan5       maybe not bind it by default because this was very confusing
23:18 sfan5       ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
23:18 nerzhul     i agree with sfan5
23:19 rubenwardy  I agree
23:19 rubenwardy  too
23:20 paramat     me three
23:21 rubenwardy  making a patch
23:22 sfan5       tfw external HDD fails to spin up
23:23 rubenwardy  #8314
23:24 paramat     is there room in the key change menu? i thought there wasn't
23:25 paramat     but +1 if tested
23:25 paramat     oh duh
23:25 rubenwardy  hmmmm
23:25 paramat     sorry, you removed cinematic
23:25 sfan5       guess I won't be testing these on real Windows
23:25 sfan5       they work in wine
23:25 rubenwardy  this adds a new string after string freeze
23:26 paramat     just remove the key bind?
23:26 paramat     in-game key changing is low priority for this
23:26 sfan5       I don't think this needs changing before release
23:27 argyle77    pitch move is handy to be able to turn on and off
23:27 paramat     well, i'm ok with just removing the key bind, but not the key change menu changes
23:28 rubenwardy  done now
23:29 paramat     +1
23:29 paramat     wouldn't consider it a blocker though
23:29 rubenwardy  will merge in 5
23:30 paramat     fine for me, simple and harmless
23:30 paramat     oh but wouldn't this mean settingtypes and conf.example changes?
23:31 paramat     ugh it does. so let's not merge this
23:32 rubenwardy  done
23:32 paramat     oh
23:32 paramat     =)
23:32 rubenwardy  oh eurgh
23:33 sfan5       so do you want to merge it now or not?
23:33 paramat     key change menu changes are back in the commit
23:33 rubenwardy  yeah, hence the eurgh
23:33 rubenwardy  there we are
23:34 paramat     well i'm neutral, no objections
23:36 paramat     honestly i don't think it needed attention before release
23:36 p_gimeno    I don't think that's a blocker. I had no problem with it.
23:36 paramat     so if it helps, i prefer to not merge this now
23:37 paramat     sorry
23:37 sfan5       I just need to know whether I need to do the windows builds again
23:37 paramat     oh
23:37 paramat     don't merge it then -1
23:38 rubenwardy  nevermind
23:38 rubenwardy  I'll revert back to the original
23:38 sfan5       it doesn't save when you press L at some point and then restart, right?
23:38 paramat     it's persistent in conf i think
23:38 sfan5       hm, that's unfortunate
23:39 paramat     something for after release, it's not a big issue
23:39 sfan5       yes
23:41 sfan5       hm
23:42 sfan5       paramat, rubenwardy: what do I name the stable branches, "stable-5"?
23:42 rubenwardy  yeah
23:42 paramat     seems good
23:42 sfan5       alright
23:57 sfan5       google+ is closing in about a month so I guess we're not going to post about it there
23:58 sfan5       rubenwardy: you had access to some twitter account right?
23:58 rubenwardy  yes
23:58 rubenwardy  posting now
23:58 paramat     \0/ MTG done too, thanks