Time  Nick       Message
00:01 rubenwardy VanessaE: what do they mean by lag?
00:01 paramat    will merge game#2301 in 15 mins, trivial
00:01 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2301 -- 'permafrost_with_stones/moss' drops itself instead of permafrost by paramat
00:02 paramat    merging game#2299
00:02 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2299 -- Add screenshot.png, and more info to game.conf by rubenwardy
00:05 Lone-Star  so there's in game screenshots now?
00:05 VanessaE   rubenwardy: for example, issuing the profiler dump command, which of course produces log output.  she had an ssh session open to watch the log.  the command wrote its output there so fast that she couldn't switch windows fast enough to see it flood in -- just as it should be -- yet the command also produces a chat message that it's writing its output the log.  this message might take up to 30s to appear.
00:05 paramat    rubenwardy why is that PR important for 5.0.0? don't mind merging, just wondering
00:06 rubenwardy It provides the meta for contentdb
00:06 VanessaE   rubenwardy: so client -> server is obviously fast, but server -> client is slow
00:06 paramat    ok merging
00:06 VanessaE   (even if out-of-band comms like an ssh session is fast both ways)
00:08 VanessaE   rubenwardy: and like I said, it seemed fine for me, and I'm on IPv6 (but without needing a 6rd tunnel).  I have not changed any settings on the server (or my client) since the update.
00:10 VanessaE   I've advised her to open a github issue about this, but in the meantime is there something I should check on that might be breaking things for her.
00:10 VanessaE   ?
00:22 paramat    seems like an exotic issue with no obvious cause or advice we can give. need more info in an issue
00:23 paramat    merging game 2301
00:28 VanessaE   yeah I thought so, too.
01:24 sofar      nerzhul: looks like there's almost no diff, except new openssl defines OPENSSL_cleanse to be straight memset, we probably want to take that change?
04:10 machinehum Digging through the code
04:10 machinehum It's a well put togeather project
04:10 machinehum Are there more docs than this https://dev.minetest.net/Main_Page
06:11 nerzhul    sofar don't know
12:37 JDCodeIt   Hi All - I found a possibly unintended behavior in function getDigParams(...) - anyone here want to discuss?
12:54 JDCodeIt   Hi Fixer
12:57 JDCodeIt   To discuss if this was intended in  minetest/src/tool.cpp:201 - return value not checked. Has a side effect under certain conditions.  code: int rating = itemgroup_get(groups, groupname);
13:10 JDCodeIt   conditions: the node does not define a level, and the tool defines at least one groupcaps with a times entry for level=0 - maybe these are invalid, but nothing is noted during loading of the mods with these settings.
14:51 JDCodeIt   The effect is that tools that have no match for groups with another node's groups - are able to dig the node
15:07 p_gimeno   JDCodeIt: that's best suited for the issue tracker, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues
15:27 JDCodeIt   Ok. wasn't sure it was an issue or an intended behavior - thought someone here might know.
15:30 JDCodeIt   If for sure - we don't want tools to dig nodes where there is no match between their groups, then yes I will raise as an issue
15:32 p_gimeno   the best way to get it visibility is to file it as an issue, eventually it will be looked into to see if it's a problem
15:32 p_gimeno   - it
15:32 JDCodeIt   Will do. thanks.
15:33 p_gimeno   thank you :)
15:52 JDCodeIt   Issue #8180 posted
15:52 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8180 -- Tools without groups match to node can sometimes still dig the node
19:49 machinehum is '#ifdef SERVER' L189 main.cpp legacy? Because I don't see where that would be defined.
19:50 sfan5      its defined in cmake
19:50 rubenwardy SERVER is defined from CMake
19:51 rubenwardy when -DBUILD_SERVER=1 is true a server-only target is made
19:51 rubenwardy SERVER means that it's only a server, no client
19:53 machinehum Got it.
19:53 machinehum Thanks
19:54 machinehum This is a really well built project
19:54 machinehum It's going to take me another couple of weeks to completely get my head around it... but so far so good.
20:09 sofar      it's taking me 3 years
20:39 machinehum sofar: Fair enough
21:08 VanessaE   guys don't forget to fix the behavior of  /give[me] for counts larger than stack_max.
21:14 VanessaE   related:  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6159
22:27 paramat    VanessaE there's no github issue for this problem, could you open one? requests in IRC will be missed/forgotten
22:28 VanessaE   paramat: see above.
22:28 VanessaE   #6159
22:28 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6159 -- Builtin: Give any stack size to player by SmallJoker
22:36 paramat    that's a PR not an issue :) nothings been done because there isn't an issue
22:36 VanessaE   ...
22:37 VanessaE   don't split hairs.
22:40 p_gimeno   Paramat has a point. The PR was closed because the code it implemented wasn't desired; that's what happens with PRs. Closed = not visible.
22:41 paramat    well, it is a PR. attention is brought to issues by creating a github issue, relying on a comment in a closed PR is much less likely to make anything happen. the existing comments in that PR didn't make anything happen either, probably because there isn't an issue ;) it's up to you
22:41 VanessaE   the PR was closed without a clearly-stated reason, and it obviously WAS wanted.
22:42 VanessaE   and anyway read the comments.  there's enough there to fill any issue someone could open.
22:45 paramat    you're an obvious person to open the issue as you care about it, it would have taken less effort than what you have posted here ;)
22:46 paramat    but yes, a core dev should have opened an issue when that PR was closed
23:00 Fixer      *cough* spawning in trees
23:03 Fixer      someone was mentioning cacti digging problems, so I can dig it with axe only... as intended?
23:34 paramat    'groups = {choppy = 3},' expected, but we could add more groups
23:34 paramat    well
23:34 paramat    pickaxe, sword and shovel don't make sense
23:43 Fixer      also, if I quit from singleplayer on a boat, then start again, I'm detached from the boat and sinking down, not good, this must be like that for age
23:43 Fixer      s