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paramat |
will merge trivial #6906 later with #6838 |
| 01:25 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6906 -- Various settings and docs improvements by paramat |
| 01:25 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6838 -- Fix ambient occlusion and dark lines at mapblock borders by numberZero |
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paramat |
!tell lhofhansl see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6907 |
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ShadowBot |
paramat: O.K. |
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paramat |
merging #6838 #6906 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6838 -- Fix ambient occlusion and dark lines at mapblock borders by numberZero |
| 05:41 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6906 -- Various settings and docs improvements by paramat |
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paramat |
merged |
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nrzkt |
hello, pushing a tiny regression fix for #6897 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6897 -- Build fails without freetype |
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nrzkt |
i just pushed #6908, there is an interesting Calinou question here |
| 07:56 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6908 -- Add a build step to test non freetype builds by nerzhul |
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nerzhul |
hey sfan5 are you around ? |
| 12:56 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 12:57 |
nerzhul |
can you take a little amount of time to review #6908 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6908 -- Add a build step to test non freetype builds by nerzhul |
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nerzhul |
pleaes |
| 12:57 |
sfan5 |
sure |
| 12:57 |
nerzhul |
please* |
| 12:58 |
sfan5 |
nerzhul: wasn't there some problem with clang-5.0 builds or is that fixed already? |
| 12:59 |
nerzhul |
sfan5, what do you mean ? clang build works, is there any runtime issue ? i hope it's not the case clang 5 is used everywhere in the world |
| 12:59 |
sfan5 |
no not at runtime |
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nerzhul |
generally i do my own tests with clang on my machine and i never see any issue with that |
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sfan5 |
https://travis-ci.org/minetest/minetest/jobs/326540973#L490 |
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nerzhul |
sfan5, oh it's a provider issue |
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nerzhul |
travis is not very stable these days |
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nerzhul |
i think it's due to the meltdown problem and some AWS issues as travis runs on heroku, then it runs on AWS :) |
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sfan5 |
possibly |
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nerzhul |
sfan5, thanks i fixed the -n will merge after travis build pass |
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sfan5 |
you forgot the quotes |
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sfan5 |
they're not required I know... |
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nerzhul |
you are right :) |
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nerzhul |
i missed them and i agree it's better |
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nerzhul |
merging #6908 (macosx build doesn't want to start) thanks sfan5 for the review |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6908 -- Add a build step to test non freetype builds by nerzhul |
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lhofhansl |
I'm going to revert 9c66901. See #6907 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6907 -- Vehicle acceleration and turn are slow and jerky |
| 18:16 |
lhofhansl |
A shame really since active objects are *very* heavy weight, and currently there's no way to reduce that load and keep responsiveness where needed. |
| 18:18 |
lhofhansl |
They can be heavy weight (such as in NSSM) |
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Krock |
so there's no workaround? |
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lhofhansl |
Krock: None that worked satisfactory. Without that change AsyncRunStep is essentially run at full speed - only slowed by retrieving packets from clients. In mob heavy setups (like nssm) that quickly renders the server useless... Put out a few a ice-salamanders and the world stops rendering since all the time is spent in the active objects. That's what this addressed. But now of course there *is* a time budget, and it increase lat |
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lhofhansl |
cy. |
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lhofhansl |
I tried handling both players and attached objects separately but that lead to other forms of jitter when a player is attached. |
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rubenwardy |
can you prioritise by player proximity? Sorry, I haven't actually looked at the patches yet |
| 18:41 |
rubenwardy |
I guess that replies on the entity storage system being less shit and O(N^2) |
| 18:41 |
lhofhansl |
rubenwardy: won't help. Even when I prioritize all players and attached objects (and have a single player only) I see the jitter. |
| 18:42 |
rubenwardy |
is that rendering or server step jitter? |
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lhofhansl |
Perhaps a less drastic way is to lower the active object internal to 0.01s (< 1/60s). That defeats some of the advantages but it will slow AOs down when they become too CPU intensive (and only then). Actually... Lemme try that. |
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lhofhansl |
server step jitter |
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pgimeno_ |
hmmm... does world generation only happen during idle time? |
| 18:46 |
lhofhansl |
nssm has a lot of Lua map gen hooks, those get slowed down to the point of being useless. |
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lhofhansl |
perhaps I'm optimizing too much for nssm :) It just happens to be my test mod for mob heavy scenarios. |
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rubenwardy |
does NSSM use the heightmap to find good locations, or does it scan for particular nodes? |
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rubenwardy |
if the later, LVM or get_node? |
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lhofhansl |
rubenwardy: I am not entirely sure actually. |
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lhofhansl |
As expected reducing active_object_interval to 0.01 negates the aim of that change. World rendering just stops with a bunch of mobs around. But responses for attached objects are fast again. Perhaps that would be the simplest change right now. |
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lhofhansl |
OK... Best solution: active_object_interval to 0.01 and reducing moving average smoothing in ServerEnvironment... I'll create a PR. |
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lhofhansl |
reverting is best for now. |
| 22:34 |
lhofhansl |
Do folks want PR for that or should I just go ahead and revert? |
| 22:34 |
lhofhansl |
re #6907 |
| 22:34 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6907 -- Vehicle acceleration and turn are slow and jerky |
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lhofhansl |
rubenwardy: Looks like NSSM is using mobs_redo's spawn_specific, and all calls pass in neighbors, is that what you meant? |
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lhofhansl |
But these register ABMs... So I guess I do not quite understand why exactly putting a time budget on active_objects helped anything. |
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