Time Nick Message 10:19 ensonic sofar, minetest_game had some textures that are WTFPL, which is not really a license, at least one is super easy to replace (default/textures/default_gravel.png), the carts one are more complicated though 10:21 Krock huh? It is a license. Just not the optimal one in terms of the warranty disclaimer 10:24 ensonic Krock, did you ever read it, it is not meant as a serious license 10:24 Krock sofar, the rather new carts model seems to have a visual problem with slopes: https://i.imgur.com/f7nhFqs.png If you have some free time, could you please cover them by raising the inner bottom position a little? 10:24 ensonic Krock, personally I don't care so much, but minetest_data could be remvoved e.g. from debian because of those :/ 10:25 Krock ensonic, serious or not. it's a license that can be used as-is. 10:27 Krock same for the Beerware license 10:27 ensonic Krock, I am not a lawyer, i just bring it up and I believe try to get textures covered under e.g. CC BY-SA would be better 10:29 Krock you can keep the "limitations" the same by using CC0 btw 10:32 ensonic Krock, ^^^ was this for me? 10:33 ensonic it is not about limitations, it is about granting explicit rights. A screenshot of a minetest world might be seen as derived work using the textures 12:57 Krock Oh well.. so we have the 0.4.17 release tomorrow? #6542 12:57 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6542 -- 0.4.17 release 21:13 paramat no apparently 0.4.17 is released at 0.5.0 feature freeze 21:13 sofar why? 21:14 sofar coupling them makes no sense 21:19 paramat i assume so it contains all bugfixes 21:20 paramat i'm neutral on this though 21:21 paramat maybe i misunderstood but i seem to remember sfan5 suggesting it 21:21 sofar if it really is bugfixes, why don't we release more often? should be much easier to test, and we really should publish bugfixes more quickly anyway 21:27 Fixer btw, just found a mtg bug: trees with snowblocks on top, snowblocks do not fall down after tree decay 21:28 sofar file an issue, should be an easy fix 21:28 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/zIzzdmC.png 21:29 sfan5 it's what i suggested yes 21:29 Fixer done https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1962 21:32 rubenwardy sofar, I'd like that 21:32 rubenwardy I mentioned it a few weeks ago 21:33 Fixer another question, eye level is at 1.5? why so low, i have impression i'm kinda small ingame 21:33 Fixer new snow sounds are very good 21:34 rubenwardy I think it was set to be level with the model 21:34 rubenwardy a question for paramat 21:34 sofar oh, snow block 21:34 sofar those don't fall 21:34 sofar maybe they should? 21:35 sofar would break snow caves I think 21:35 Fixer good question 21:35 Fixer they do make trees nicer 21:35 Fixer and more variable 21:37 paramat it was requested snowblocks don't fall to not break snowblock builds 21:37 paramat giant snowmen etc. 21:37 sfan5 just make player-placed snow blocks not fall? 21:38 paramat trees very rarely have snowblocks on them anyway, that only happens when pine branches extend 1 or 2 nodes into icesheet or tundra biomes 21:39 paramat minor issue 21:39 paramat taiga doesn't have snowblocks as dust 21:40 paramat erm, i would much prefer 0.4.17 is released asap, the close it is to 0.5.0 the less chance people will update to 0.5.0 21:41 paramat *closer 21:43 sfan5 people will update to 0.5 because of all the other features anyway 21:43 sfan5 also: csm flavors 21:44 paramat yes, but i don't want to reduce that chance 21:45 rubenwardy I reckon we should do an odd/even thing 21:45 rubenwardy release full releases twice a year 21:45 rubenwardy bug-only twice a year 21:45 rubenwardy roughly equal spacing 21:46 rubenwardy heh 21:46 sfan5 that doesn't help with deciding what to do about 0.4.17 though 22:27 sfan5 paramat, i've asked before but: what about critical/important bugfixes that would happen between the release of 0.4.17 and 0.5.0? 22:27 sfan5 you can't leave server owners without a fixed version 22:27 sfan5 but surely releasing a 0.4.18 isn't an option 22:40 paramat yeah that's the good reason 22:40 paramat but then, bugfixes will always happen, have to draw a line somewhere 22:49 Fixer https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6729 22:55 paramat thanks 22:55 paramat did you try snow? 22:57 Jordach Fixer, does this occur with npow(2) type textures, as snowdrift is non pow(2) textures 22:57 paramat pow(2)? 22:57 Fixer has not seen snow 22:57 Jordach 2x2, 4x4 ... 22:58 paramat the textures are all square 22:58 Fixer paramat: is there way to force it? 22:58 paramat i think they have to be for particles 22:58 paramat travel to snowy biome 22:58 paramat oh 22:59 paramat yes in params hang on 22:59 Fixer i've removed word rain and replace with better wording 23:01 paramat lines 145 and 147: if true then 23:04 Fixer paramat: can see snow particles, but they look weird: https://i.imgur.com/16CRpEb.png 23:06 paramat ok, it's due to the narrowness of the raindrop 23:06 Jordach Fixer, chance the particle texture to default_dirt.png or similar 23:07 Fixer paramat: snow has problems too 23:07 paramat and maybe the size i set for the particles 23:07 Fixer texture looks wrong 23:07 paramat i know 23:07 paramat i mean, raindrop disappears because it's narrow 23:08 Fixer possibly 23:14 paramat and maybe due to my set 'size' 23:14 Fixer dirt texture instead of flake - https://i.imgur.com/5l5PcZy.png 23:14 Fixer above crosshair 23:19 lisac https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18933 23:20 lisac should've posted it in hub, sorry