Time  Nick       Message
13:57 jas_       #6491
13:57 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6491 -- minetest.conf csm_autodownloads = true setting and mechanism needed.
17:25 Flitzpiepe Hello everyone
17:26 Flitzpiepe How to find out the coords of the map-blocks at a minetest-server?
17:26 Krock      Hello. This is the development channel. --> #minetest  for such questions
17:26 Flitzpiepe ah ok, sorry and thanks :)
17:34 red-001    anyone able to review #6087?
17:34 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6087 -- [CSM] Don't load the IO library. by red-001
18:36 basicer    I fixed #6395 up if someone has a few moments to review.
18:36 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6395 -- Add setting for near plane distance. by basicer
20:28 paramat    game#1881 is ready, code is very similar to the map mod
20:28 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1881 -- Add binoculars mod with binoculars item to allow zoom by paramat
20:30 sofar      that's neat
20:31 paramat    something todo later: remove wield when zoomed
20:33 sofar      not sure about the periodical inventory scan, though, seems harsh
20:40 paramat    we intend to add inventory callbacks to the engine later, which will improve the behaviour, then the cyclic scan can be less frequent or removed
20:44 paramat    maybe 3s is too often, however i have people complaining about any delay :]
20:53 paramat    it used to be 7s, maybe 5s is better
20:59 Fixer      hackish
21:00 paramat    temporary
21:03 paramat    and currently no other way
21:12 sofar      can you enable/disable zoom through lua (not "allow"/"disallow") ?
21:32 paramat    don't think so
21:34 paramat    the idea of these mods is to keep the same controls, because players are used to them and they're convenient to use. see my comment in the map mod PR thread
21:34 rubenwardy I started working on that, sofar
21:35 rubenwardy wait no
21:35 Fixer      if it is that fucked up, maybe add some hint in descriptions (press F9 to activate minimap, press Z to zoom)
21:35 rubenwardy I started working on the minimap one
21:35 sofar      ah
21:35 Fixer      nice
21:37 rubenwardy I'm using a new packet - FeatureActiveChange - which sends a feature name, eg: "minimap", "fly", and an integer - 0 off, 1 on, 2 toggle
21:37 paramat    Fixer i could do that if wanted
21:37 rubenwardy and for the Lua API I decided on   player:set_minimap_visible() as it's a nicer API
21:37 sofar      makes sense
21:38 rubenwardy 0/1/2 isn't great for modders, and "feature" is vague
21:38 Krock      or add callbacks when :set_properties() is called ?
21:39 rubenwardy doesn't help with showing minimap on item use
21:40 paramat    rubenwardy your new feature will be useful, but for minimap players already have F9 for minimap and won't want to have to 'use' or hotbar select minimap to display it
21:41 rubenwardy that's bad UI
21:41 rubenwardy it's fine to use F9 as well
21:41 paramat    oh i see
21:41 paramat    ok
21:41 rubenwardy but players will expect to be able to use on_use
21:41 paramat    if it's in addition, ok
21:41 paramat    yeah
21:42 rubenwardy an alternative would be to have minimap and binocular slots to make it more obvious that it's a thing you carry but don't on_use,
21:43 paramat    the alternative sounds much worse
21:44 paramat    anyway, can i merge my PR then these changes can be done later?
21:44 rubenwardy yeah, it less clean
21:45 sofar      don't see why not
21:45 rubenwardy If I were making a subgame I'd combine it with an accessory system
21:46 rubenwardy and clothes, but meh
21:47 Fixer      kinda sad mtg in such dissarray in terms of gameplay
21:47 paramat    stop it
21:48 Fixer      is there general vision of what you want mtg to be (in gameplay)
21:48 paramat    that's been asked many times and discussed to death, see the threads
21:48 Fixer      if there is map and binoculars, then probably it is survival-like?
21:53 Fixer      entity movement by liquds?
21:56 Fixer      no hard feeling allowed
23:09 rubenwardy hmmmm
23:10 rubenwardy closed unpopular PR with author abandonment: #6166
23:10 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6166 -- More helpful server connect error messages by Wuzzy2
23:23 paramat    fine by me
23:37 Fixer      !tell nerzhul "client disconnected" for me on newest
23:37 ShadowBot  Fixer: O.K.