Time  Nick        Message
01:38 rubenwardy  possible bug with 3D mode: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17782&p=274670#p274670
01:38 rubenwardy  unconfirmed
02:12 Wuzzy2      Do you know what movement_liquid_fluidity_smooth is for?
03:59 srifqi      rubenwardy, I can confirm that 3D modes bug.
06:11 nerzhul     merging #5884 in ~10 mins
06:11 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5884 -- Mention data type for get_attribute/set_attribute in Lua API documentation by Wuzzy2
06:25 nerzhul     merging also #5848 in ~10 mins
06:26 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5848 -- Tooltips: Unify the tooltip[] and list[] description tooltip display functions by SmallJoker
08:53 nerzhul     !tell paramat see #5889
08:53 ShadowBot   nerzhul: O.K.
09:25 SG9kb3I     Is it just me or does anyone else dislike "negative" functions? E.g. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5889/files#diff-f4dada645aa2c6343e16a20b047c07c5R1094
09:26 SG9kb3I     nerzhul, if that was bool MapgenParams::saoWithinLimits(const v3f &p) const  then the implementation could also, probably, take advantage of shortcut evaluation more effectively
09:27 SG9kb3I     apart from that the PR LGTM
09:32 SG9kb3I     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5889/files#diff-f4dada645aa2c6343e16a20b047c07c5R1082       <-- that can't underflow can it?
09:55 nerzhul     no
09:58 nerzhul     apk is okay for me for a release, just need the last commits and tag on MT/MTG
09:58 nerzhul     we just need to do a version bump on android makefile before release
10:50 Wuzzy       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5852/files/f0bfec5771fdf96bfdbcebdddfde807b9f488090..f36323775af21cc687b59b702b2fa315fe9e21ea oh nice. A string change one day before release! Translators will be happy. XD
10:51 nerzhul     it's not merged
10:52 nerzhul     sfan5, rubenwardy ShadowNinja do we perform release during/after meeting ?
10:53 sfan5       oshit release is tomorrow
10:53 nerzhul     yes
10:53 nerzhul     i'm not there tomorrow during the day (will be there on the evening), but we can close the release and tag today during release
10:54 nerzhul     seems MTG doesn't move since feature freeze
11:11 Wuzzy       I have this bug in MineClone 2 which I am trying to fix since days
11:11 Wuzzy       and i am suspecting an engine bug...
11:11 Wuzzy       it has something to do with inventories
11:12 red-001     Wuzzy, the string change can't really be helped
11:12 Wuzzy       red-001: its okay since no existing string is changed
11:12 Wuzzy       so at least we dont lose any translations
11:13 red-001     anyway I'm not sure if the PR will get merged before the release
11:13 Wuzzy       its for fixing the bug i reported earier. which i only found and reported because someone called for testing!
11:13 Wuzzy       anyway
11:13 Wuzzy       i see no reason why it should not be merged... anyway
11:14 Wuzzy       i seem to have very strange problems with chests in my subgame
11:14 Wuzzy       because when i place a double chest over a chunk border, i sometimes cant access the chest contents
11:14 Wuzzy       i think i need to explain further
11:15 Wuzzy       also i'll probably make some different testing today
11:15 Wuzzy       to be 100% sure its engine bug
11:16 Wuzzy       what I do with my chests is that I access them via on_rightclick, rather than setting formspec meta string
11:16 Wuzzy       argh. hard to explain. i better setup a different test scenario
11:17 Wuzzy       By the way: Is okay to use on_rightclick for chests and then try to access the chest content via formspec string?
11:19 Wuzzy       Anyway, I leave MineClone 2 issue here: https://github.com/Wuzzy2/MineClone2-Bugs/issues/162
11:36 red-001     #5892
11:36 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5892 -- Remove unimplemented setting `movement_speed_descend` by red-001
12:01 Fixer       nerzhul: don't forget to update translations
12:08 nerzhul     red-001, +1
12:10 DS-minetest in MTG default.register_chest isn't documented in game_api.txt
12:10 nerzhul     merging in ~10 min as it's trivial
12:44 nerzhul     Thanks for your refforts red-001
12:48 nerzhul     sfan5, do you think we release this evening ?
12:49 nerzhul     this pr should be merged and fix 3 issues: #5889
12:49 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5889 -- Properly remove SAO when worldedges are overtaken by nerzhul
12:49 nerzhul     we worked with paramat on it, after verifying his calculs i tested it with my SAO and it works exactly as intended
12:49 Wuzzy       nerzhul: not before updating weblate/translations plz
12:50 nerzhul     i will do it Wuzzy
12:50 nerzhul     be quiet :)
13:12 Wuzzy       Mysterious issue found: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5894
13:45 red-001     re #4931 it appers that minetest contains code that should do this for non RUN_IN_PLACE windows builds
13:45 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4931 -- Official releases should should use %APPDATA%.
13:46 red-001     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/b662a4577d692329b9ca83525e6039f2ddcd1ac1/src/porting.cpp#L368
13:47 red-001     is this code broken or is there another reason it's not used in the version distributed with the installer
13:50 red-001     maybe someone else could fix the remaining issues with #5840?
13:50 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5840 -- Update credits by rubenwardy
14:50 paramat     i'll test #5889 over the next hour and then +1
14:50 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5889 -- Properly remove SAO when worldedges are overtaken by nerzhul
14:51 paramat     then there are 2 trivial MTG PRs to merge game#1744 game#1747
14:51 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1744 -- Changed "Junglewood" to "Jungle Wood" by MrIbby
14:51 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1747 -- Changed default_book, default_book_written and default_bookshelf_slot by Attractadore
14:53 ShadowNinja Devs: We planned to release today at the last meeting,so last chance to get things in for the release.
14:57 paramat     yeah, but we can delay until late evening if necessary (it probably will be necessary) :]
15:01 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: Looks like #5840 should be updated.  I also noticed that RBA's note is in <> which is normally for emails, should probably be [] instead.
15:01 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5840 -- Update credits by rubenwardy
15:04 paramat     if anyone can merge those ^ 2 MTG PRs that would be helpful
15:10 Fixer       Can someone make news announcement about this vulnerability? Not all modders know about it for sure https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=17692
15:11 Fixer       and how to prevent the problem
15:11 Fixer       to update, etc
15:11 red-001     good idea
15:11 red-001     someone should post an annoncement
15:25 rubenwardy  updated #5840
15:25 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5840 -- Update credits by rubenwardy
15:29 Thomas-S    #5895
15:29 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5895 -- [WIP] Meta-set nodedef: Part 1 by Thomas--S
15:47 srifqi      Krock, just updated #5886
15:47 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5886 -- Fix issue Minetest crash when custom font path is not exist by srifqi
15:53 paramat     #5889 seems to have a bug, testing ..
15:53 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5889 -- Properly remove SAO when worldedges are overtaken by nerzhul
15:58 ShadowNinja paramat: Handled those game PRs.
16:01 paramat     thanks
16:21 rubenwardy  why are there 3 separate news posts about 0.4.16
16:21 rubenwardy  you should just post a reply to one, and update the title
16:22 paramat     ~tell nerzhul https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5889 will work if you update it as shown in the comments
16:22 ShadowBot   paramat: O.K.
16:31 paramat     we won't be ready to release 1n 30 mins, maybe late evening or tomorrow
16:32 srifqi      in what timezone?
16:33 paramat     sorry, EU
16:34 srifqi      UTC+3?
16:35 paramat     CEST UTC+2
16:35 paramat     Central European Summer Time
16:36 paramat     in terms of devs we are concentrated there or very nearby
16:37 ShadowNinja paramat: Is the credits update good now?
16:38 ShadowNinja <paramat> Please wait for Ezhh to comfirm she is ok with her credit.
16:39 ShadowNinja Shara: Does it look fine to you?
16:42 ShadowNinja srifqi: It's 18:00 UTC if that helps you convert.  Most devs are in the Eastern US or Europe, so that time works pretty well.
16:42 red-001     so 19:00 GMT right?
16:44 ShadowNinja Er, no.  GMT == UTC, it's just that GMT is technically a time zone and UTC is technically just a time standard with no associated zone.
16:44 red-001     I though UTC didn't do day light saving and GMT did?
16:45 ShadowNinja red-001: Nope, some areas switch from GMT to BST, but GMT itself doesn't change.
16:48 srifqi      Thanks for the time in UTC, ShadowNinja
16:50 paramat     so, MTG has no more PRs to merge if anyone needs to know
16:50 ShadowNinja paramat: You could fix the world edge PR yourself I think.
16:50 nore        Thomas-S: *thank you* for rebasing meta_set_nodedef. I didn't complete the rebase last time, because it's too long - and it's really old code, and after already 3 rebases I got sick of it. What you are doing - splitting it in smaller pieces - is definitely the right way to do that, since it allows incremental merges. To sum up: thank you again :)
16:50 ShadowNinja Oh, there he is.
16:51 nerzhul     who, me ?
16:51 ShadowNinja nerzhul: paramat noticed an issue with your world edge PR.
16:51 nerzhul     yeah i see i will finish the thing
16:51 nerzhul     it's meeting now ? i'm late or i missed something
16:51 ShadowNinja nerzhul: The values are initialized but never updated for new mgparams.
16:51 nerzhul     yeah yeah i read comments on GH
16:51 ShadowNinja nerzhul: No, just working on getting things fiished before the meeting.
16:52 nerzhul     ShadowNinja, you are okay for release on meeting ? in how many time meeting starts ?
16:52 ShadowNinja nerzhul: Well, there are only two blockers, and they're easily mergable, so I difinitely think it's doable.
16:53 nerzhul     nice, i tested android this afternoon with minetest_game master it's oaky
16:54 nerzhul     i'm finishing the fix on sao limit and after that i push a version bump before release on android makefile for play store
17:00 nerzhul     ShadowNinja, paramat #5889 updated
17:00 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5889 -- Properly remove SAO when worldedges are overtaken by nerzhul
17:00 paramat     ok looking
17:02 nerzhul     paramat, is there any new commit for mtg ? i don't see any since... 2 weeks
17:02 paramat     sao_limit_max(MAX_MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT), is wrong as that variable is in Irrlicht units
17:02 paramat     need * BS
17:03 paramat     MTG is ready, we merged 2 trivial PRs just now
17:06 paramat     hmm why is sao_limit_min(MAX_MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT), needed when float sao_limit_min; is already present above?
17:07 paramat     those are not actually mapgen params
17:07 paramat     they don't belong with water level etc.
17:07 nerzhul     because it's just c++ and it's not public data
17:08 paramat     hm ok
17:08 nerzhul     it's mapgen params called through the SAO calculation
17:08 nerzhul     okay for BS, fixing it
17:08 nerzhul     i tend to not make public all private data :)
17:08 paramat     how did my implementation work then? or was it just bad cding?
17:08 paramat     *coding
17:09 nerzhul     private and public is for dev, no functional changes
17:09 nerzhul     it's just variable exposure to other objects
17:09 paramat     ok
17:09 paramat     i'm no expert :]
17:10 nerzhul     making things private and maybe const also is good, a thing we don't do is to have const members , it's very useful to prvent coding errors, members are only settable on constructor :)
17:11 nerzhul     okay it'sp ushed
17:14 paramat     +1
17:15 paramat     i should test again i guess
17:15 nerzhul     nice merging after CI pass in ~10 mins
17:15 nerzhul     you can, i tested it before pushing
17:15 paramat     ok go ahead
17:15 paramat     i might test after merge
17:15 nerzhul     test it i wait for CI
17:16 paramat     thanks for the work, and your patience on this :]
17:19 nerzhul     no problem for a such change it's important to collaborate and fix bugs
17:19 nerzhul     meeting is in 1h or 2h ?
17:19 ShadowNinja 1h
17:20 paramat     ok testing again, will take 20mins
17:21 nerzhul     okay
17:21 nerzhul     we have some PR mergeable after release heh :D
17:27 red-001     could someone take a look at #5852 after release?
17:27 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5852 -- Improve the path select GUI by red-001
17:29 Krock       red-001, i.e. adding the 0.5.0 milestone?
17:31 red-001     that would work
17:32 kilbith     sfan5 needs to be around to officially release
17:33 Wuzzy       hey
17:33 Wuzzy       did anyone notice the advanced config search currently gives very odd results?
17:33 nerzhul     Krock, use project if possible, milestone is not defined yet
17:33 Krock       ah okay
17:34 nerzhul     sfan5 is needed for building release, but tagging can be done when everything is good
17:34 paramat     5889 seems fine
17:34 red-001     Wuzzy, how so?
17:35 Wuzzy       just try to search random words
17:35 Wuzzy       like "filter"
17:35 Wuzzy       or "language"
17:35 Wuzzy       or "debug"
17:35 Wuzzy       esp in foreign language
17:35 nerzhul     pushing android versions codes
17:35 Wuzzy       or "minetest"
17:35 red-001     seems ok to me
17:36 Wuzzy       it produces irrelevant results
17:36 Wuzzy       minetest → enable_console????
17:36 Wuzzy       → serverlist_url??!?1
17:36 Wuzzy       → instrument.global_callback?
17:36 red-001     it doesn't for me
17:36 Wuzzy       o_O
17:36 kilbith     it's a featureâ„¢
17:37 Wuzzy       994802a77496202a1d71aae54e9606ee6f55def6
17:37 red-001     huh maybe it doesn't translate the strings before searching
17:37 Wuzzy       actually, I tested ths in English now
17:38 red-001     for "filter" I get the graphic filtering
17:38 Krock       I see. The filter includes likely all information
17:38 red-001     for debug I get "show debug info"
17:39 Wuzzy       I also get gui_scalng for "filter"
17:39 Wuzzy       now testing in language=de
17:39 red-001     for minetest I get "enable console window" but thats because someone put minetest in the description
17:39 Wuzzy       ohhhhhhhhhh!!
17:39 Wuzzy       it searches the *description*?!
17:39 red-001     yes
17:39 Krock       yes and the setting name
17:40 red-001     it auto selects the best result
17:40 red-001     similar to how the serverlist search works
17:41 Wuzzy       hmm okay. search gives relevant and semi-relevant results then
17:41 red-001     what about server search?
17:41 red-001     is this also an issue for that?
17:41 Wuzzy       not really
17:42 red-001     that uses a combination of name, description and serverlist ranking
17:43 Wuzzy       forget my "issue" then :)
17:51 ShadowNinja paramat: I don't think including Shara is an issue since that nick is already public in IRC.
17:51 paramat     good point
17:51 ShadowNinja (And GitHub for that metter)
17:54 paramat     she said she was 'out for the day' so may not be able to +1 the credit in time, i expect it is ok
17:55 paramat     "I'm off for the day"
17:56 nerzhul     merging #5889
17:56 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5889 -- Properly remove SAO when worldedges are overtaken by nerzhul
17:57 nerzhul     i'm working on translations now
17:58 nerzhul     ouch many many commits to squash
18:01 * VanessaE  peeks in
18:03 ShadowNinja Alright, we just have to merge the credits update now.
18:03 ShadowNinja (and translations maybe?)
18:04 nerzhul     i'm on translations
18:04 nerzhul     russian translation doesn't permit many squashing, conflicts doesn't permit to squash per author sometimes... :p
18:11 nerzhul     very long prepare yourself for many commits :p
18:14 sfan5       nerzhul: i will be around tomorrow
18:14 nerzhul     it's not blocking for release right ? tagging doesn't require yourself
18:14 sfan5       though it would be nice if it wasn't in the evening as i have little time there
18:14 nerzhul     you just upload builds right ?
18:14 sfan5       correct
18:15 nerzhul     okay then we can tag and after you are free :)
18:15 sfan5       who will write the changelog?
18:16 nerzhul     i already wrote it without the bugfixes
18:16 nerzhul     except for MTG someone should do it
18:19 Sokomine    sorry, i forgot: how was creating a debug build done again? someone had it in his signature. i just don't remember who
18:20 sfan5       fixers signature probably
18:20 sfan5       -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug
18:20 Sokomine    aah. thanks!
18:20 nerzhul     pushing translations now
18:21 nerzhul     translators have been active, especially in russia and commits was not squashable per author... :(
18:23 GreenDimond "0.4.16 will be released this weekend, maybe tomorrow, in ~12 hours." -nrz <-- That was ~10 hours ago... so the next version will be released in ~2 hours? Roughly?
18:24 Krock       WIP
18:24 sfan5       no, tomorrow
18:24 GreenDimond "tomorrow"
18:24 Krock       somewhen this weekend, one can not simply release Minetest from one minute to the other
18:24 GreenDimond Any time in the next 11 hours?
18:25 ShadowNinja sfan5: Er, today or tomorrow was the plan.
18:25 Krock       using a new daily build you already have an 0.4.16-identical build
18:25 GreenDimond tru.
18:25 GreenDimond But I like to have the official :P
18:25 GreenDimond "stable"
18:26 GreenDimond "tomorrow" being UTC right?
18:26 GreenDimond So that means June 4 UTC is 5pm June 3 PST
18:27 ShadowNinja nerzhul: All done with translations?
18:27 nerzhul     tagging can be done today
18:27 nerzhul     but released will be generated after, maybe tomorrow for windows as sfan5 said, for me (Android i will do it and push it to play store)
18:28 GreenDimond I am just going to cross my fingers and hope it will be released in the next 11 hours.
18:28 nerzhul     ShadowNinja, yes translations are good
18:28 ShadowNinja nerzhul: BTW, the Android version code is normally updated by utils/bump_version.sh.
18:28 nerzhul     ShadowNinja, oh ? i never use that
18:28 * VanessaE  reminds about https://github.com/minetest/minetest/projects/2
18:28 nerzhul     (i release last 3 versions :p)
18:29 nerzhul     as build.gradle have the version i always use it
18:29 ShadowNinja All that's left is #5840, and I think we can merge that now.
18:29 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5840 -- Update credits by rubenwardy
18:30 Krock       otherwise they can be added/changed in the next release cycle. looks good.
18:31 nerzhul     ShadowNinja, Krock is #5819 okay or not ?
18:31 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5819 -- Fix default item callbacks to work with nil users by raymoo
18:31 nerzhul     you both commented it and raymoo fixed points
18:32 nerzhul     sfan5, http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.15_.E2.86.92_0.4.16_.28not_released_yet.29 for the changelog
18:32 ShadowNinja nerzhul: Ehm, I think it may be a bit too close to release for that.
18:32 nerzhul     ShadowNinja, no problem for me
18:33 Krock       nerzhul, that can wait for 0.5.0 imo - also haven't tested it
18:33 nerzhul     nice
18:33 nerzhul     i delayed it
18:35 nerzhul     then only credits needs to be merged
18:36 ShadowNinja I'll merge them.
18:36 VanessaE    the "project" page also shows #5865...
18:36 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5865 -- minetest.player_exists returns true after player was removed with minetest.remove_player
18:36 nerzhul     #5865 was also added (a doc fix is required)
18:36 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5865 -- minetest.player_exists returns true after player was removed with minetest.remove_player
18:36 VanessaE    ninja'd :)
18:37 nerzhul     is lua_api.txt version bumped with the script too ?
18:37 nerzhul     for the doc fix
18:37 nerzhul     * `minetest.remove_player(name)`: remove player from database (if he is not connected).
18:37 nerzhul     * Returns a code (0: successful, 1: no such player, 2: player is connected)
18:37 nerzhul     here is the current doc
18:37 GreenDimond Is anyone here on pure UTC time?
18:37 Krock       sed -i -re "1s/[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+/$NEW_VERSION/g" doc/lua_api.txt || die "Failed to update doc/lua_api.txt"
18:37 Krock       yes, ^v nerzhul
18:37 nerzhul     i propose to add : * Warning: this doesn't remove player data from auth.txt, minetest.player_exists will continue to return true
18:38 GreenDimond Like UTC+/-0?
18:38 nerzhul     is this okay for you for this last issue ?
18:38 red-001     GreenDimond, I don't think so?
18:38 GreenDimond Then what is "June 4th" defined as? xD
18:39 Krock       nerzhul, but client_lua_api.md doesn't seen to get updated
18:39 GreenDimond Release date is set for June 4th UTC even though no one uses UTC :P
18:39 GreenDimond Whatevs
18:39 nerzhul     Krock, oh yes, we added it after that
18:39 red-001     the 4 of June UTC +- one day
18:39 nerzhul     GreenDimond, not important, important is we are around it,
18:39 GreenDimond Yup.
18:40 nerzhul     in France it's 8PM, release tag will be done just before, and google play will publish it tomorrow
18:40 Krock       GreenDimond, as how I know this channel, it'll be around UTC+4 ... UTC+8
18:40 Krock       afternoon
18:40 GreenDimond Is UTC-7 before or after that xD
18:40 GreenDimond before, right?
18:40 ShadowNinja nerzhul: Is this good?: http://sprunge.us/YigO
18:41 nerzhul     yes, did you look what i prposed ? it's a little bit more accurate
18:42 ShadowNinja Alright
18:42 nerzhul     what do you want ? i push the doc fix or you push yours?
18:43 ShadowNinja nerzhul: I'll add "minetest.player_exists will continue to return true" (with pluggable authentication handlers the auth data might not be in auth.txt).
18:43 nerzhul     okay then
18:46 Fixer       GreenDimond: if americanos - Europe has evening, America has afternoon or like that
18:47 GreenDimond So if it is June 4th for people at UTC+8... it should be early-evening/late-aft for people with UTC-7?
18:47 GreenDimond Or am I failing at understanding times?
18:47 red-001     look we have no idea when we are releasing this
18:47 nerzhul     i think this is a discussion for #time-dev
18:48 GreenDimond lol
18:48 ShadowNinja Anything else before release?
18:49 Krock       nerzhul, #time-dev is actually a thing now
18:49 GreenDimond It is? O-O
18:49 red-001     note: time related puns are banned
18:49 red-001     we don't have time for that
18:49 GreenDimond omg he wasnt kidding xD
18:51 nerzhul     i updated core changelog
18:51 nerzhul     okay project is now finished
18:51 paramat     good grief GreenDimond stop going on about release time, talk in another channel
18:51 nerzhul     are we all right for tagging core ?
18:51 nerzhul     paramat, sfan5 ShadowNinja Krock ?
18:52 red-001     paramat, done
18:52 GreenDimond paramat I did move to another channel
18:52 red-001     you have been ninja'ed
18:52 Krock       the project site is empty. looks good
18:52 ShadowNinja I'm ready.
18:52 nerzhul     yes kanban is good for me
18:52 nerzhul     project closed
18:53 paramat     i'm ok for tag
18:53 nerzhul     i closed milestone too
18:53 nerzhul     if you are okay i push the tag
18:53 ShadowNinja I'll bump the version.
18:53 nerzhul     oh :) okay
18:53 nerzhul     tell me when done
18:54 ShadowNinja nerzhul: You already have it done?
18:54 nerzhul     not pushed but prepared :p
18:54 nerzhul     oh
18:54 ShadowNinja nerzhul: You left the Android version at 17?
18:54 nerzhul     i bumped it manually 1 hour ago
18:54 nerzhul     ShadowNinja, i let you do the script and tag process
18:55 ShadowNinja nerzhul: Did you use util/bump_version.sh?
18:55 nerzhul     no :(
18:55 ShadowNinja Alright.
18:55 nerzhul     i didn't know about this script
18:56 nerzhul     i will send a PR on freeBSD ports after that to make it up to date on FreeBSD heh
18:56 ShadowNinja Alright, I'll push in a minute.
18:56 nerzhul     okay
18:56 nerzhul     i'm removing stable-0.4-android
18:56 nerzhul     no sense for this release we are synced
19:00 nerzhul     how tagging is done on MTG ?
19:00 nerzhul     just push a tag ?
19:02 paramat     dunno
19:02 nerzhul     paramat, can you do it ?
19:02 paramat     sorry i don't know how to
19:03 nerzhul     okay i do it, you confirm i can tag the current master ?
19:03 paramat     go ahead
19:04 Fixer       you need to run bump_version.sh, it also tags .__.
19:04 ShadowNinja Looks like you just tag it: http://dev.minetest.net/Releasing_Minetest
19:04 ShadowNinja Fixer: Not for _game.
19:04 nerzhul     tagp ushed on mtg
19:04 red-001     nerzhul, something seems to be wrong with the translations?
19:04 nerzhul     red-001, ?
19:04 nerzhul     what do you mean
19:04 red-001     see recent discussion on #minetest
19:05 red-001     The weblate for Malay was updated yesterday but according to git it was last updated 9 days ago
19:05 nerzhul     i just cherry picked it
19:05 nerzhul     i pulled weblate and picked commits
19:06 red-001     huh it seems it's correct
19:06 nerzhul     erf
19:06 red-001     maybe the timestamp just got messed up
19:06 nerzhul     you are right
19:06 nerzhul     oh no
19:06 nerzhul     it's due to the squash
19:06 nerzhul     :)
19:06 nerzhul     commit date is the older commit
19:06 red-001     alright
19:06 red-001     so all is good
19:08 nerzhul     : 1496513697:0;git cp 5724e0a3593c210f2d215da495975ba7568e5812
19:08 nerzhul     : 1496516821:0;history|grep 5724e0a3593c210f2d215da495975ba7568e5812
19:08 red-001     so 0.4.16 just got released?
19:09 paramat     \O/
19:09 GreenDimond \o/
19:09 red-001     \o/ help I'm drowing
19:10 paramat     yes, see commits
19:10 red-001     oh lol someone already registered that account
19:10 nerzhul_    0.4.16 is tagged on mtg only
19:11 nerzhul_    we are waiting ShadowNinja for core
19:11 kilbith     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases
19:11 nerzhul_    oh nice !
19:11 nerzhul_    champagne !
19:11 kilbith     pinard!
19:11 nerzhul_    great job guys this was a very huge and good step for minetet
19:12 GreenDimond Wait..
19:12 nerzhul_    personnaly i want to thanks to red-001 which did a great job on CSM and fixes
19:12 GreenDimond So its not completely released yet?
19:12 GreenDimond *confused*
19:12 kilbith     shut up, GreenDimond
19:12 nerzhul_    code tag is okay
19:12 GreenDimond No.
19:12 kilbith     go discuss on #minetest
19:12 nerzhul_    builds are done after that
19:13 nerzhul_    i will bild release APK in ~ 1h and publish it on play store and release page
19:13 paramat     it was almost 6666 commits at bump
19:13 ShadowNinja Alright, release is done, we just need to make builds and release notices.
19:14 GreenDimond Is the build for linux done?
19:14 red-001     no
19:14 kilbith     ...
19:14 GreenDimond Alright that is what I consider release
19:14 GreenDimond But whatever
19:14 GreenDimond :P
19:14 red-001     GreenDimond, just give it a rest
19:14 GreenDimond Don't mind me.
19:15 GreenDimond kk I get it now.
19:15 nerzhul_    i'm publishing new on forum
19:15 GreenDimond I must not be well. That took more than it should have for me to understand it :/
19:15 Krock       MSVC build is running
19:16 ShadowNinja celeron55: Launchpad needs an update.  nerzhul: FreeBSD/Android GPlay.  sfan5: Windows MinGW.
19:16 nerzhul_    GreenDimond: please just wait and stop aksing us
19:16 ShadowNinja I'll also notify other package maintainers.
19:16 kilbith     est31 takes care of launchpad already
19:16 kilbith     he has been notified
19:16 GreenDimond I already stopped, nerzhul. I was just confused for a while but now I get it.
19:16 Krock       next commit will summon the devil
19:16 paramat     lol
19:17 nerzhul_    Krock: you mean the PR i will merge in ~1h ? :p
19:17 paramat     a 4D devil
19:17 nerzhul_    https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17789
19:17 nerzhul_    VanessaE: can you pin and unpin 0.4.15 please ?
19:17 Krock       nerzhul_, any commit will do it
19:18 GreenDimond LOL I looked at the changelog. 0.4.15 was skipped on the wiki xD
19:18 VanessaE    nerzhul_: done.
19:18 nerzhul_    merging #5814 in ~1h :D
19:18 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5814 -- Minetest for C++11 (CMakeLists + Travis) by nerzhul
19:18 nerzhul_    VanessaE: ty
19:18 VanessaE    sure
19:19 red-001     0.4.15 is the forgotten release
19:19 VanessaE    nerzhul_: now you have to add me to the credits ;)
19:19 nerzhul_    VanessaE: lol
19:19 nerzhul_    i hope you are all aware about C++11 guidelines :)
19:20 Krock       nerzhul_, aww. are you forcing me to set up my system before holidays :'(
19:20 red-001     well I tagged the arch build as out of date
19:20 nerzhul_    red-001: nice
19:20 GreenDimond Added nodes seam to have been neglected in the changelog
19:20 VanessaE    some warnings in translations, nerzhul_
19:20 nerzhul_    GreenDimond: it's core changelog
19:20 GreenDimond Ah.
19:20 nerzhul_    someone should do mtg changelog not me i don't work on it
19:20 GreenDimond That makes more sense.
19:21 VanessaE    nerzhul_: https://pastebin.com/M1vSq85q
19:21 GreenDimond Sorry for all the nagging :/
19:21 nerzhul_    VanessaE: just ignore this warning, it will be fixed by #5814
19:21 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5814 -- Minetest for C++11 (CMakeLists + Travis) by nerzhul
19:21 GreenDimond C++11 is latest right?
19:22 nerzhul_    it's because you compile 0.4.16 wit ha C++11 compiler and jsoncpp used deprecated features in C++11
19:22 VanessaE    nerzhul_: ok, so long as it won't break 0.4.16 builds for some obscure platform
19:22 VanessaE    also recall, no C++11 hwerw
19:22 kilbith     can someone stop this guy asking stupid questions please
19:22 VanessaE    here*
19:22 nerzhul_    i just compile android release and it's with the classic NDK we used since 2 years
19:23 GreenDimond They aren't "stupid questions".
19:23 nerzhul_    (for the release builds) FreeBSD will use the system compiler (clang 3.4 by default)
19:23 GreenDimond But you are entitled to your own opinion :)
19:23 kilbith     jesus..
19:23 kilbith     this is a development channel, not a damned forum
19:23 kilbith     gtfo
19:24 red-001     it is that latest if you teleport to 2011
19:24 GreenDimond I know it's not a forum.
19:24 nerzhul_    GreenDimond: release is now done, builds will be pulished here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/tag/0.4.16 refresh page sometimes and wait
19:24 VanessaE    GreenDimond: subject matter is more strict here than #minetest, general questions must be directed there, core dev specific or minetest_game here.
19:24 Krock       do we ship the "preview" clientmod now too?
19:24 red-001     please ask further question about violating causality, etc in #time-dev
19:24 nerzhul_    Krock: it's shipped and disabled
19:24 Krock       okay
19:24 red-001     Krock, if you ship minimal
19:25 nerzhul_    because we, hopefully, merged mods.conf support on CSM
19:25 Krock       no, MTG is the real thing
19:25 nerzhul_    (ty red-001 for this
19:25 red-001     it's basicly the minimal of CSM
19:25 GreenDimond VanessaE: Yeah I get that. I should probably get into the habit of switching between the channels :/
19:25 Krock       oh, you meant CSM
19:25 VanessaE    GreenDimond: yes.
19:26 VanessaE    hah!
19:26 VanessaE    I found a bug in minetest_gamne
19:27 VanessaE    game*
19:27 GreenDimond A little late for that.
19:27 GreenDimond :P
19:27 VanessaE    the new chests, if you open one, and then immediately hold the ESC key down to repeatedly bring up and then dismiss the "Pause" menu, you can get the chest to stay open
19:27 GreenDimond That... has been known for a while now.
19:28 nerzhul_    VanessaE: iteresting bug, if i remember it was already reported but not fixed yet
19:28 paramat     yes known issue
19:28 VanessaE    ok, just checking.
19:28 VanessaE    thought it was already fixed.
19:28 nerzhul_    if not just open an issue, and i hope we will fix it on next release heh
19:28 nerzhul_    don't forget we are now in a breaking compat release
19:29 VanessaE    well dreambuilder still works, or at least it loads, so I'm not overly concerned.
19:29 GreenDimond sofar said it wasn't a bug
19:29 GreenDimond at least I think sofar said it
19:29 GreenDimond iirc he said it was intentional
19:29 VanessaE    (I actually was trying to sort of "delay" the closing of the chest after inventory view, so I could more easily see the sides)
19:30 VanessaE    nerzhul: [06-03 15:29] <VanessaE> (I actually was trying to sort of "delay" the closing of the chest after inventory view, so I could more easily see the sides)
19:32 paramat     well it's not intentional, just low priority to fix
19:32 VanessaE    it's no big deal, just hadn't noticed it before.
19:32 GreenDimond I like it :P
19:33 ShadowNinja I suppose we'll update the website tomorrow after sfan5 has made a MinGW build.
19:33 GreenDimond You can get cool things with the screwdriver
19:33 red-001     it's not a bug, it's a feature!!
19:34 VanessaE    http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/feature-bug.jpg
19:34 nerzhul_    ShadowNinja: nice
19:34 GreenDimond That's what everyone said about sne*k.
19:34 GreenDimond lol VanessaE
19:34 nerzhul_    pushing #5814 in ~30 mins
19:34 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5814 -- Minetest for C++11 (CMakeLists + Travis) by nerzhul
19:35 nerzhul_    it should be the first commit in this cycle as the whole CI is changed to use C++11
19:35 Krock       Adding my first and last MSVC Win32 build to the 0.4.16 release post
19:37 ShadowNinja nerzhul: Ehm, you're changing the version...
19:37 nerzhul_    ShadowNinja: ??? which version
19:37 ShadowNinja nerzhul: In the C++11 commit -- you change the version to 0.5.0.
19:37 nerzhul_    oh you mean in 5814 i setted 0.5 yes
19:38 nerzhul_    we are in 0.5 dev cycle now
19:38 VanessaE    I thought it was agreed that there could be 0.4.x point releases/backports?
19:38 VanessaE    there isn't enough manpower here to do both
19:38 GreenDimond I hope this is minetest-dev-worthy but does that mean it will be called 0.5.0-dev or 0.4.16-dev?
19:38 nerzhul_    it's better to call it 0.5.0-dev to prevent problems as it's a breaking cycle
19:39 ShadowNinja nerzhul: Normally we name dev versions <last_release>-dev.
19:39 ShadowNinja Not <next_release>-dev.
19:39 GreenDimond That is true.
19:39 nerzhul_    ShadowNinja: i think it's a problem on this breakage compat
19:39 nerzhul_    maybe we should release 0.5.1 and have 0.5.0 for the dev ?
19:39 VanessaE    ?
19:39 nerzhul_    i think it can be confusing to have 0.4.16 reported whereas we are doing the break no ?
19:40 VanessaE    nerzhul_: release 0.5.0 next, no breaks.  save breakage for 0.6.0
19:40 ShadowNinja No.  Accoding to semver 0.5.0-dev means "before 0.5.0", it's just that we don't normally do it that way, and thet would be a change.
19:40 VanessaE    that would still be consistent and would get us safely out of the 0.4.x range anyway
19:40 Wuzzy       ShadowNinja: Will you adopt SemVer?
19:40 Krock       VanessaE, 0.5.0 already indicates a break
19:40 VanessaE    Krock: not really
19:41 ShadowNinja Wuzzy: In theory we decided to adopt it a while ago, but we heven't yet.
19:41 VanessaE    according to semver that just means significant changes that *can* break, not that *will*(
19:41 nerzhul_    ShadowNinja: maybe it's time no ?
19:41 Wuzzy       Also, you can't use "-dev" versions to refer to ALL in-development verions. it can only stand for a single version/commit, period. otherwise you use something else than SemVer
19:41 VanessaE    and considering the feature set of 0.4.16 compared to 0.4.15, 0.5.0 would be within the parameters of semver I think
19:41 GreenDimond Oh boy here goes another release date/name discussion
19:42 red-001     well irc you can break at any point before 1.0.0 in semvar
19:42 ShadowNinja Krock: Technically 0.4.17 could be a completely breaking release.  semver provides no stability guarantees as mong as MAJON=0.
19:42 Wuzzy       well i only care about semver vs not emver
19:42 ShadowNinja s/mong/long/
19:42 Wuzzy       no that was correct
19:42 ShadowNinja s/MAJON/MAJOR/
19:42 Wuzzy       it should be totally called MAJON
19:42 nerzhul_    ShadowNinja: we all adopt the next release is a breaking release and we increase major (ignoring first 0)
19:42 Krock       yet, it's just another standard
19:42 Wuzzy       I propose to release 0.4.16-covfefe
19:43 GreenDimond What is the thing that breaks stuff?
19:43 nerzhul_    Wuzzy: heh
19:43 Wuzzy       because we cant type either :)
19:43 nerzhul_    GreenDimond: first we will use C++11 as a minimum standard now
19:43 Krock       lol Wuzzy
19:43 nerzhul_    second, i think i will take many time to rewrite the whole network stack
19:43 ShadowNinja nerzhul: Yeah, 0.5.0 should be the first semver release.  We still provide no stability guarantees though.
19:43 GreenDimond Oh so when you were saying you were going to merge it, you are going to merge it to -dev?
19:43 Wuzzy       ShadowNinja: thats fine
19:44 GreenDimond I thought someone said the upgrade to C++11 wasn't going to break much
19:44 nerzhul_    ShadowNinja: a problem we have is rules are written in mese blocks, but rules can evolved if agreed with majority of devs :)
19:44 GreenDimond Or that might have just been not breaking many mods
19:44 nerzhul_    look, mesa have v10 and after 17 :p
19:44 red-001     it will break stuff for shitty distros that don't have c++11 yet
19:44 nerzhul_    red-001: only one doesn't have it's debian 8
19:45 nerzhul_    you can have a C++11 compiler via extra repo, and Debian 9 will be released in 10 days
19:45 red-001     wait
19:45 red-001     does that mean minetest will finnaly be up to date on debian?
19:45 GreenDimond BTW if you use a -dev build and try to place a block in a protected area (by prot redo) the game segfaults.
19:45 Fixer       red-001: shitty distros?
19:46 Fixer       debian 9 will be released in about 1 month
19:46 Fixer       iirc
19:46 red-001     GreenDimond, wait what??!
19:46 nerzhul_    red-001: i do'nt know, but Debian 9 permits to unlock C++11 it was the latest blocking for C++11
19:46 GreenDimond Yeah.
19:46 red-001     how is that not a blocker?
19:46 GreenDimond Dunno.
19:46 red-001     has this been reported?
19:47 GreenDimond Happened to me ~1 week ago and another guy is having the same prob now.
19:47 GreenDimond at least he claims its a segfault
19:47 nerzhul_    stacktrace plase
19:47 nerzhul_    pleae*
19:47 red-001     the server or the client?
19:47 red-001     please*
19:47 nerzhul_    :p
19:47 ShadowNinja nerzhul: I think the C++11 PR warants a bit more consideration.  It doesn't have to be the first thing merged.
19:47 nerzhul_    ShadowNinja: oh there are 3 PR ready for being merged
19:48 GreenDimond I think the client
19:48 GreenDimond For me the client would just stop. no error message or anything.
19:48 nerzhul_    C++11 merged means we can now use features, it doesn't convert any code, just enable it
19:48 red-001     bigfoot547, hi
19:48 red-001     0.4.16 got released
19:48 bigfoot547  Yay! Release is released!
19:48 red-001     since feature freeze is over could #5852 be reviewed?
19:48 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5852 -- Improve the path select GUI by red-001
19:48 VanessaE    nerzhul_: just make sure you document carefully how to enable C++11 for distros that don't ship it by default.
19:48 GreenDimond Hrmm...
19:48 JungleMan21 Where do I report for 0.4.16?
19:49 GreenDimond Here.
19:49 JungleMan21 Where do I report segfaults for 0.4.16?
19:49 GreenDimond This is the guy that just happened to
19:49 VanessaE    JungleMan21: here and then github
19:49 red-001     github issues
19:49 red-001     or here
19:49 nerzhul_    VanessaE: yeah documentation is important, no problem, we start a new dev cycle
19:49 red-001     just pastebin the segfault
19:49 GreenDimond You sure it was a segfault JM?
19:49 red-001     s/segfault/backtrace
19:49 nerzhul_    i think it's more a lua stacktrace, i don't remember all those API changed
19:49 nerzhul_    (C++ side)
19:49 JungleMan21 yes, very sure
19:49 JungleMan21 *gbd backtrace incoming*
19:50 red-001     also why the strange nick wuzzy?
19:50 JungleMan21 https://pastebin.com/BSVKZs31
19:51 GreenDimond Yep. Definitely segfault.
19:51 nerzhul_    exact
19:51 JungleMan21 It happened when I placed a block in a protected ares in the "Jungle" server
19:51 GreenDimond Yep
19:51 GreenDimond Ima try on HOMETOWN
19:52 JungleMan21 GreenDimond tells you where
19:52 GreenDimond i dont think they care where
19:52 GreenDimond It was just in a prot area
19:52 JungleMan21 well to reproduce it of course
19:52 nerzhul_    function is huge, is this possible to have the trace in debug mod ?
19:53 JungleMan21 not just any protected area, an area where "Areas:" was empty for some reason (WTF)
19:53 JungleMan21 i guess they were using Areas mod
19:53 JungleMan21 okay debug build yes
19:53 GreenDimond they use protector redo
19:53 JungleMan21 yes and at bottom left there is that text with list of areas
19:54 JungleMan21 but empty for me o_O
19:54 GreenDimond Not reproducible on HOMETOWN
19:54 Fixer       don't have this problem on hometown
19:54 Fixer       001de6f
19:54 GreenDimond Jungle: Protector redo areas dont show on the list
19:54 JungleMan21 ?
19:54 nerzhul_    ii don't see where the crash can be in tagged build
19:54 JungleMan21 the list was not empty in other areas
19:54 GreenDimond Only area-mod areas are shown on the list
19:54 GreenDimond Those areas were protected with the areas mod
19:55 JungleMan21 GreenDimond: do you mean this server uses multiple protection mods? GREAT!!!
19:55 GreenDimond yes
19:55 JungleMan21 lol whyyyyyyyyyy
19:55 VanessaE    wrong channel guys
19:55 GreenDimond Alright lets stop being offtopic
19:55 JungleMan21 sorry
19:55 VanessaE    take it to -hub
19:55 JungleMan21 segfault is not offtopic
19:55 GreenDimond Hm.
19:55 GreenDimond Jungle is a rather out-dated server
19:55 Fixer       will try too
19:56 GreenDimond It has outdated mods, so it could be an incompatible mod version.
19:56 JungleMan21 GreenDimond: do u still have coords?
19:56 ShadowNinja JungleMan21: Can you reproduce with a debug build?
19:56 GreenDimond They don't need coords
19:56 JungleMan21 not so fast! it doesnt buid in 5 second
19:56 GreenDimond It does for me xD
19:56 GreenDimond But I dont know how to get dbg build
19:56 nerzhul_    5814 merge delayed, i should rebase it heh
19:56 GreenDimond So I let you do it
19:57 nerzhul_    merging #5792 in ~10 mins
19:57 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5792 -- Snake case for screen options in minetest.conf by Dumbeldor
19:57 JungleMan21 commit ID is 63ca71e9d2c1131675a7a47a7155458af6a36e3e by the way
19:58 GreenDimond I am using 1b83b0a... but I dont think that is the commit ID
20:01 nerzhul_    i make a pause, ShadowNinja #5814 is updated
20:01 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5814 -- Minetest for C++11 (CMakeLists + Travis) by nerzhul
20:02 JungleMan21 nerzhul_: stack trace in debug build 63ca71e9d2c1131675a7a47a7155458af6a36e3e: https://pastebin.com/jwAeLJFB
20:02 Fixer       aha, it crashed
20:03 GreenDimond Yep there it goes
20:03 Fixer       can confirm the crash on placing block
20:03 GreenDimond DS got one too
20:03 GreenDimond BUt he said it was a normal one so i dunno what that means
20:05 DS-minetest it means that i got such problems already before
20:06 JungleMan21 that makes it even worse
20:06 Fixer       i will check other servers with areas and landrush
20:06 GreenDimond HOMETOWN doesnt seem to do it
20:06 GreenDimond but then again, Exeter likes to modify the mods so their Protector Redo could be completely different
20:07 JungleMan21 ShadowNinja: ping pong. stack trace available ^^^^
20:07 ShadowNinja JungleMan21: Yep, looking into it.
20:08 JungleMan21 thx
20:08 JungleMan21 i really wish i had found this, like 1 hour before or so. xD
20:09 JungleMan21 congrats on the huuuge release btw :)
20:09 GreenDimond Hey. Like VanessaE said, you can always release patches.
20:10 Fixer       tried on vanessa server - no crash, area only mod
20:10 ShadowNinja JungleMan21: Hmmm, looks like it's crashing in a compiler-generated function.
20:10 GreenDimond Are mods even able to create segfaults?\
20:10 JungleMan21 that would be fun :)
20:11 GreenDimond If they can then I think that the ProtRedo on Jungle is just an outdated version
20:11 JungleMan21 my compiler is gdb 7.12.1
20:11 ShadowNinja JungleMan21: Can you run "bt full" and see what hand_def.tool_capabilities is?
20:12 JungleMan21 ye
20:12 Fixer       gdb is debugger
20:13 GreenDimond ubuntu uses the .apk build right?
20:13 JungleMan21 LOL
20:13 JungleMan21 i am stuuuuuupid
20:13 GreenDimond I'll just keep putting your dropped stuff in this chest
20:13 VanessaE    Fixer: actually my server has two protection mods, but one of them uses the other anyway
20:14 JungleMan21 my compiler is GCC 6.3.1. omg why am i so stupid
20:14 ShadowNinja GreenDimond: Ehm, .apk is an Android app..
20:14 GreenDimond I knew that.
20:14 JungleMan21 ShadowBot: 0x0
20:14 JungleMan21 :D
20:15 GreenDimond But if the tar.gz sourcecode is already there then I should be able to upgrade right?
20:15 JungleMan21 ShadowNinja: 0x0
20:15 JungleMan21 :D
20:15 ShadowNinja Thought so...
20:17 ShadowNinja Krock: Are you building a 64-bit version?
20:17 Fixer       JungleMan21: do you have github account? can you post an issue with bt full backtrace?
20:17 Krock       ShadowNinja, can't - on a 32-bit system
20:18 ShadowNinja Krock: Can't cross-compile?
20:18 ShadowNinja Is the 64-bit build usually MinGW?
20:18 Fixer       should be
20:18 JungleMan21 i am not so happy with posting bt full. its huge
20:19 Krock       yes, they're MinGW
20:19 Krock       there's someone on the forum who managed to compile 64-bit with MSVC but 32-bit alone is a torture
20:20 Fixer       JungleMan21: ok, then bt and attach bt full as file or as pastebin link
20:20 Krock       *but even
20:20 JungleMan21 its more about privacy than file size
20:21 ShadowNinja JungleMan21: Well, this should fix it for you, although I'm not sure if it's correct yet: http://sprunge.us/VEFA
20:22 GreenDimond Someone ping me when the Ubuntu build is done.
20:22 GreenDimond *please
20:22 kilbith     a coffee with that?
20:22 JungleMan21 unable to reproduce this, ShadowNinja ?
20:23 GreenDimond No thanks.
20:23 Fixer       ShadowNinja: will try it
20:23 ShadowNinja GreenDimond: Come back next year (unless you just mean the launchpad builds :-P)
20:23 GreenDimond Yes I meant launchpad.
20:23 ShadowNinja JungleMan21: How did you get it?
20:23 JungleMan21 get what?
20:24 JungleMan21 lol ShadowNinja, it stopped crashing, but instead this just destroys my item in hand
20:25 JungleMan21 ShadowNinja: if you insist on the full bt, i can post it, but i have the feeling it must be redacted
20:26 GreenDimond then you might have used wrong build?
20:26 ShadowNinja JungleMan21: Yeah... thought something like that might happen.  Moment.
20:26 Fixer       JungleMan21: look down, tool is dropped if digging other person area
20:27 JungleMan21 i did not dig, I built
20:27 GreenDimond building is usually when it happens i think
20:27 JungleMan21 nothing got dropped. item vaporized in hand
20:27 GreenDimond that is unusual
20:28 JungleMan21 hey i applied a diff thats why
20:28 JungleMan21 ShadowNinja is trying to fix this right now :=)
20:28 Fixer       ShadowNinja: crash fixed
20:29 JungleMan21 Fixer: yes, but it vapirized item in hand. did you notice?
20:29 GreenDimond it should drop it not vaporize it
20:29 Fixer       JungleMan21: it is not, item is just dropped as intended by protector redo
20:30 Fixer       JungleMan21: try again and look below you, it drops your item because you mined other people area, thats intended
20:30 JungleMan21 but I built!
20:30 JungleMan21 you are right. it actualy dropped right on my feet
20:30 Fixer       ;)
20:31 JungleMan21 ShadowNinja: item was not vaporized, it was just dropped, which the users claim is just mod intended behaviour
20:31 Fixer       it is feature of protector_redo
20:31 GreenDimond But that does not explain the segfault
20:31 GreenDimond Who claimed it was a bug?
20:32 JungleMan21 I
20:32 JungleMan21 the segfault is fixed with ShadowNinja's patch
20:32 GreenDimond testing...
20:33 Fixer       ShadowNinja: make a PR :)
20:33 GreenDimond I still segfault
20:34 ShadowNinja JungleMan21: Er, isn't it destroying your weilded item?
20:34 GreenDimond He thought it was
20:34 JungleMan21 ^^^^^^
20:34 JungleMan21 ShadowNinja: item was not vaporized, it was just dropped, which the users claim is just mod intended behaviour
20:34 GreenDimond But it was just dropping it
20:35 Fixer       ShadowNinja: no, that is protector_redo feature, we checked, nothing is vaporised
20:35 GreenDimond But I still get a segfault
20:35 Fixer       ShadowNinja: weilded item is dropped
20:35 Fixer       ShadowNinja: thats intended
20:35 GreenDimond Oh wait
20:35 ShadowNinja Oh, OK.
20:35 JungleMan21 did u get segfault with or without diff, GreenDimond?
20:35 GreenDimond The patch wasn't applied to the dev build was it xD
20:36 JungleMan21 it was applied to the commit right after 0.4.16 release
20:36 ShadowNinja I'm not really sure how this code works though, so I don't know if it's really correct.
20:36 JungleMan21 :-(
20:36 GreenDimond Well I just updated to latest and I still get a segfault
20:37 JungleMan21 GreenDimond: Its not in repo yet ...
20:37 Fixer       JungleMan21: just create an issue, ShadowNinja should open a PR and it will be discussed and probably merged
20:37 VanessaE    ShadowNinja: you have /msgs
20:37 GreenDimond ah so I cant test because the lp isnt updated yet :/
20:38 GreenDimond Uh-oh. My items *are* getting destroyed
20:38 Fixer       GreenDimond: you need to apply fix manually, it is not in git
20:38 GreenDimond What is the patch number?
20:39 sfan5       ShadowNinja: i can make a build rn
20:39 ShadowNinja sfan5: Great.
20:40 JungleMan21 what is a build rn?
20:40 ShadowNinja sfan5: Do we default to MinGW for Windows now?
20:41 ShadowNinja We used to recommend MSVC for performance reasons, but it looks like that depends on the person and the website has 64-bit builds so it looks like that's changed.
20:41 sfan5       we've done that since several releases
20:41 sfan5       since msvc has not been available since blockmen left
20:41 ShadowNinja Alright, thanks.
20:42 Fixer       JungleMan21: update your server btw, it will look awesome in new version ;)
20:42 GreenDimond Its not his server :P
20:42 Fixer       JungleMan21: for example curved blocks
20:42 JungleMan21 what do you mean?
20:42 ShadowNinja JungleMan21: Looks like the server is defining a custom hand but isn't including tool_capabilities.
20:42 JungleMan21 evil
20:43 JungleMan21 evil in its purest form
20:43 JungleMan21 and no, i cant update a server i dont have. im not a cracker :)
20:43 GreenDimond who is in charge of the lp builds?
20:45 ShadowNinja GreenDimond: est31/c55.
20:45 GreenDimond so I get to wait until they awaken :P
20:45 JungleMan21 i thought est31 left
20:45 GreenDimond tru^
20:45 GreenDimond But didnt he say he would continue to do the lp builds?
20:46 sfan5       forgot my dropbox password lel
20:46 JungleMan21 123456
20:46 GreenDimond password123
20:48 sfan5       neither
20:50 Fixer       sfan5:sfan5
20:50 nerzhul     6666 commits
20:50 nerzhul     :p
20:50 Krock       JungleMan21, programmers passwords start with 0
20:50 Krock       nerzhul, how devilish
20:51 Fixer       this Jungle server is another one alongside with Vanessa"S that has this huge freezes because sign text entity loading, 1 second long freezes, Carls
20:52 nerzhul     what do we do with this crash ? ShadowNinja ?
20:53 Fixer       open issue @ open PR @ discuss
20:54 nerzhul     seems to be very anoying and we release...
20:54 Fixer       JungleMan21: are you going to open the issue or let me do it?
20:55 JungleMan21 i let you do it :P
20:55 JungleMan21 dont really like GH
20:55 ShadowNinja nerzhul: JungleMan21 SIGSEGV?  I'll open a PR.
20:56 nerzhul     ShadowNinja, the problem i see is we have a blocker just after release which should have been fixed before as it seems to use a very commonly used feature no ?
20:56 nerzhul     (protected areas)
20:57 ShadowNinja nerzhul: No, I don't think it has anything to do with areas.  It looks like it has to do with the server defining a custom hand without defining tool capabilities for it.
20:57 nerzhul     okay then it's a more old bug
20:57 ShadowNinja JungleMan21: This was only on one server, right?  (what server?)
20:57 GreenDimond Jungle
20:57 JungleMan21 yes
20:58 JungleMan21 didnt test on others
20:58 nerzhul     if it's not the case we should have a very shit decision to take
20:58 GreenDimond Fixer didx
20:58 nerzhul     (rewrite log or bump version...)
20:58 GreenDimond fixer couldnt reproduce on other servers
20:58 ShadowNinja Does anyone know who runs that server?
20:58 GreenDimond Gundul
20:58 nerzhul     sounds reasonable to talk with server owner then
20:59 ShadowNinja GreenDimond: Where is he, does he come on IRC/forum?
20:59 GreenDimond https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=18398
21:00 Fixer       here you go https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5898
21:01 nerzhul     i'm preparing android build
21:10 nerzhul     Android APK is now on release page
21:10 nerzhul     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/tag/0.4.16
21:10 bigfoot547  nerzhul, I addressed reviews on #5797
21:10 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5797 -- [CSM] Add function to set the FOV of the local player by bigfoot547
21:11 sfan5       finally building now
21:11 nerzhul     bigfoot547, i'm on release finishing for android atm
21:12 nerzhul     sfan5, nice
21:13 nerzhul     ShadowNinja, is this okay ? sounds acceptable and can i publish apk on play store?
21:14 nerzhul     erf
21:14 nerzhul     0.4.15.17
21:14 nerzhul     why was that generated
21:14 ShadowNinja nerzhul: It's fine if it works :-)  There's also some stuff about Android on the release page: http://dev.minetest.net/Releasing_Minetest
21:15 nerzhul     erf i forgot to pull tag, i think that's the problem
21:15 nerzhul     i need to regen the APK, just for the version..
21:15 nerzhul     yeah the android stuff was added by me :p
21:16 nerzhul     okay now i need to fix the C++11 bump script for version as it seems :p
21:22 nerzhul     okay version is good now :p
21:23 nerzhul     i published it on play store
21:25 GreenDimond so the only things left are sfan's windows builds and the launchpad builds?
21:25 nerzhul     yes for builds, and i should send a FreeBSD PR for mt and mtg
21:25 ShadowNinja nerzhul: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5899
21:26 nerzhul     sounds good (nullptr should be used when using C++11 builds don't forget that all devs :) )
21:26 nerzhul     (after c++11 pr merge)
21:27 ShadowNinja Krock: Do you have a .pdb file for the MSVC build?  The release guide mentions that it should be available.
21:27 Krock       yes, it's bundled
21:28 ShadowNinja Alright, great.
21:28 Krock       same as the msvcr file and openal wrapper
21:32 sfan5       damn, forgot something and have to compile again...
21:32 sfan5       ;_;
21:32 bigfoot547  :(
21:33 bigfoot547  feels bad...
21:38 nerzhul     ShadowNinja, i fixed #5814 util/bump_version.sh it now bump version like semver model
21:38 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5814 -- Minetest for C++11 (CMakeLists + Travis) by nerzhul
21:38 nerzhul     0.5.0-dev -> 0.5.0 -> 0.5.1-dev
21:39 nerzhul     (and it's better than our current model i agree, it doesn't make sense to have -dev for the current released version, it was strange :p)
21:42 nerzhul     sfan5, are you okay with that too ?
21:44 sfan5       i don't think the version model should be changed yet
21:45 nerzhul     but don't you think it's a problem to have 0.4.16-dev for the 0.5-dev cycle ?
21:46 nerzhul     it also permit to keep stable-0.4 as a maintenance branch to backport some commits without affecting 0.5 versions
21:46 nerzhul     we wanted break, i can be a nice shot to fix this no ?
21:47 nerzhul     this model permit multibranch versions to maintain, i think i will take some time to backport some 0.5.X fixes (no features) to stable-0.4 as 0.5.0 should be a very major version
21:48 sfan5       it should be fixed eventually
21:48 sfan5       but not right now
21:48 nerzhul     what do you want to wait ?
21:49 nerzhul     and do you want me to remove 0.5 version setted in CmakeLists in #5814 then if this change is not accepted ?
21:49 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5814 -- Minetest for C++11 (CMakeLists + Travis) by nerzhul
21:49 nerzhul     or i keep it and we will fix the versions model later in this cycle ?
21:50 nerzhul     merging #5899 in ~10 mins
21:50 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5899 -- Fix segmentation fault with tool capabilities by ShadowNinja
21:55 paramat     great
22:01 nerzhul     sfan5, i should go, if you get time, please tell me what you want to merge 5814 about th eversion "problem" (remove the last commit, remove 0.5 in cmakelists, other thing ?), i will look at this tomorrow and update and if we are okay merge
22:01 bigfoot547  can #5797 be merged?
22:01 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5797 -- [CSM] Add function to set the FOV of the local player by bigfoot547
22:01 nerzhul     no i'm the only approver
22:09 sfan5       what the fuck
22:09 sfan5       0.4.16 is tagged onto the wrong commit
22:09 sfan5       ~tell nerzhul 0.4.16 is tagged on the wrong commit
22:09 ShadowBot   sfan5: O.K.
22:10 sfan5       or is this gits fault
22:10 kilbith     tagged at 80dc961d2 - "Bump version to 0.4.16"
22:11 sfan5       ~tell nerzhul nevermind my git was just stupid
22:11 ShadowBot   sfan5: O.K.
22:11 sfan5       here i go making yet another build
22:24 VanessaE    ...and this is why we need point releases :)
22:25 VanessaE    in the...I dunno, 5 years I guess, that I've been using Minetest, I've never once seen a release go out that didn't have some little thing go wrong :)
22:25 sfan5       i make these releases pretty much every release
22:25 VanessaE    I mean the "tagged the wrong commit" comment above.
22:25 sfan5       coupled with the fact that i don't have my usual build env with me rn...
22:25 sfan5       s/releaeses/mistakes/
22:25 VanessaE    oh heh
22:27 Fixer       VanessaE: +1
22:28 Fixer       0.4.16.1
22:34 GreenDimond paramat I thought we already knew he needed .obj meshes on game#1736
22:34 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1736 -- Add inner and outer stair corners by MarkuBu
22:36 paramat     yes we do, my comment is a little redundant
22:37 paramat     should stairs and slabs be added for tin block, to be consistent with most other metals?
22:38 GreenDimond Yes
22:38 Fixer       paramat: yes
22:39 GreenDimond I was needing them the other day and then I find out they aren't there and I be like "crap."
22:41 paramat     ok, there is an issue
22:41 red-001     someone should update the front page
22:42 sfan5       it will be updated once i have uploaded my builds
22:44 GreenDimond paramat "issue"?
23:00 sfan5       red-001: updated now
23:02 red-001     you forgot to update the version
23:02 red-001     News: 0.4.15 released. (June 3rd 2017)
23:04 red-001     alright it looks ok now
23:07 GreenDimond When is the minetest.net gallery going to be updated?
23:20 Sokomine    finally got some sort of crash while running in debug mode: https://pastebin.com/8WYebKbs (mouse pointer lost; had to switch to another console through keyboard). or are you all busy with release? it's not urgent. i'm not sure if the bug report helps or if it's a random crash caused by other issues
23:21 red-001     bt full
23:22 Fixer       Sokomine: do: bt full
23:22 Fixer       Sokomine: and post it, before that, inspect it for private info like name/password/ip/etc
23:23 Sokomine    https://pastebin.com/bts97fHP
23:25 Sokomine    apart from path names it ought to be fine
23:25 red-001     see GreenDimondKiwi I can't see what you say
23:26 Fixer       Sokomine: also do: thread apply all bt full //// then save it to file for future needs
23:28 ShadowNinja GreenDimond: Calinou's assigned to do that some time soon.
23:28 GreenDimond Ah ok
23:28 Fixer       Sokomine: don't forget to post an issue on github and also add https://pastebin.com/bts97fHP to it
23:29 Fixer       Sokomine: and ofc don't forget to describe the bug, versions used, etcetcf