Time  Nick      Message
00:07 sofar     Sokomine: have them please, please, file issues instead of relaying things through IRC
00:10 sofar     Sokomine: unlikely that that mod actually crashed the server
00:10 sofar     Sokomine: how would you even know?
00:10 sofar     the csm doesn't send anything to the server
00:10 sofar     the code runs on the client
00:22 red-002   seems highly unlikely
00:25 red-002   great someone has already made a cheat-like mod for csm
00:26 sofar     +1
00:26 red-002   we should consider only allowing loading mods sent by the server once we add them
00:26 sofar     this is why in my future subgame, I will have an ore-drop method that completely makes those exploits useless
00:28 Sokomine  sofar: the server owner had repeated crashes when the mod developer was online. he said he even tested the now-released clientside mod and was able to crash his server that way
00:28 sofar     show me the crash logs
00:28 red-002   ^
00:28 Sokomine  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5418
00:30 sofar     that's just a bunch of warning messages
00:30 red-002   seems normal
00:30 sofar     not a crash log
00:30 Sokomine  how to create a proper crash log?
00:30 sofar     a crash log is "oops, segfault"
00:30 Sokomine  running with debug enabled?
00:30 sofar     or "lua barfed"
00:30 sofar     nope
00:31 sofar     all you have there is normal server output
00:31 red-002   debugger?
00:31 sofar     I dunno, repro it in a clean setting
00:33 Sokomine  i'll try....
00:34 VanessaE  sofar: btw, got a link to that inspector mod you use?
00:34 red-002   sofar the binary for the anticheat mod is on github not the forum
00:34 sofar     oredetect crashes my client
00:34 VanessaE  oops, wrong channel.
00:34 sofar     but not my server
00:34 sofar     VanessaE: minetest-mods/inspector
00:34 VanessaE  thanks.
00:34 red-002   sofar, it's using a feature that only got merged yesterday
00:35 paramat   CSM is so new a bug is not surprising
00:35 sofar     red-002: in that case, github is redistributing it illegaly :)
00:35 sofar     red-002: which one?
00:35 sofar     the find_nodes_in_area?
00:35 red-002   yeah
00:35 sofar     I have that local, I was just doing something on a diff branch
00:35 sofar     uh, which pr again?
00:36 red-002   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/0891975ad6c8d6d3e15b20f33b22cf5baca7eb62
00:37 sofar     but that;s merged
00:41 paramat   will merge game#1649 in a moment
00:41 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1649 -- Door Bugfix: Missing code in 73e4666f280804b3f4c2c0571603d717d60a2203 by Thomas--S
00:50 paramat   merging ..
00:51 red-002   could someone review #4962 ?
00:51 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4962 -- Save the name of the world in world.mt and remove invalid characters from the directory name by red-001
00:55 paramat   complete
02:51 VanessaE  problem with current engine - /shutdown doesn't work anymore
02:51 VanessaE  it throws a "shutting down" warning, and then...nothing.  the server continues to run
02:53 VanessaE  that's commit b8484ef2 to be exact
02:56 VanessaE  and they aren't responding to SIGINT either, but SIGTERM works
02:58 VanessaE  restart (and presumably SIGINT) works fine at commit ba0a8dab
06:31 sofar     whatever happened to particle blend?
06:31 sofar     did it get removed after it got merged?
06:32 sofar     ohhhh, it never got merged
07:44 nerzhul   merging #5411
07:44 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5411 -- Update server min protocol version to v24 by nerzhul
08:11 nerzhul   with that merge: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17051 i added a warning on the forum
08:20 nerzhul   celeron55, can you create me an account on dev.minetest.net (nerzhul name) please ?
08:34 nerzhul   is there any coredev taking minetest group ownership on gitlab.com ?
08:34 nerzhul   i cannot register it (i want to do some daily builds for MT on it for various versions), it seems someone take ownership and make it private
08:55 celeron55 what is the minetest group on gitlab?
08:55 celeron55 is it some kind of a mirror of the github organization
08:56 celeron55 or just a name
09:00 nerzhul   i don't know it's private, but someone take it
09:01 nerzhul   i would have it as a mirror of our repository permitting to do many snapshot builds artifacts for debian/ubuntu and more using the gitlab ci, but it seems the namespace has been taken
09:04 nerzhul   maybe i should ask gitlab support to tell me what is it in our name, because somebody take our software name
09:04 nerzhul   what do you think about it celeron55 ?
09:06 celeron55 do they have a policy for doing something in cases like this?
09:08 nerzhul   i can just ask for support, they are reactive
09:09 celeron55 well, go ahead
09:13 nerzhul   i asked them using their support portal, waiting for it
10:01 kaeza     Minetest should add Whitespace for modding API
10:01 VanessaE  nah, brainfuck
10:02 juhdanad  What is Whitespace?
10:02 kaeza     https://esolangs.org/wiki/Whitespace
10:04 kaeza     what is so "bad" about Lua anyway...
10:05 nerzhul   kaeza, just lol
10:06 kaeza     the good thing is that you can write mods in two languages at the same time
11:11 red-001   #5133 seems to have been lost when rebasing
11:11 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5133 -- [CSM] Block access to the `io` library by red-001
11:12 red-001   nerzhul, ^
11:21 nerzhul   red-001, oh
11:22 nerzhul   it was forget long time ago then
11:22 nerzhul   Krock, i will keep the two commits, because they depend on each other but yes will fix code style
11:31 Krock     yes, that's not what I meant. You mixed the minimap fix into a refactoring pull, that's usually not ideal
11:32 nerzhul   Krock, yes, but i get some time to do it, then i do the two commits :)
11:33 nerzhul   red-001, re-pushing the missed commit... thanks for notice it
11:34 nerzhul   red-001, pushed
12:18 nerzhul   merging #5422
12:18 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5422 -- Refactor Game class (part 2) by nerzhul
12:24 Krock     nerzhul, could you please look on #5340 again? I'm not sure what you would like to have there
12:24 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5340 -- Add fading sounds by SmallJoker
12:27 nerzhul   i did a second pass
12:28 Krock     thank you :)
12:37 nerzhul   Fixer, i did a callgrind
12:38 Fixer     nerzhul: results?
12:38 nerzhul   draw_scene take 8% of MT run usage
12:38 nerzhul   minimap::draw is 6% of all MT usage
12:38 nerzhul   3.68% is blitMinimapPixels and 1.24% copyToScaling
12:52 nymeven   Hi, which libraries Minetest uses? (SFML / other) ?
12:52 nerzhul   nymeven, look at readme.md
12:52 nymeven   ok
12:52 nerzhul   no sfml, irrlicht for rendering
12:53 nymeven   ok :p
12:53 nerzhul   Fixer, i don't see know we can improve minimap performance atm
12:53 Fixer     its ok
12:54 Fixer     i'm using it raraly anyway for mapping purposes, it decreases fps quite a lot, especially with sleep 15ms patch
12:54 juhdanad  Maybe there are a lot of pixels off-screen that should not be rendered?
12:54 nerzhul   juhdanad, i don't think, because bliMinimap take image size, i should look at it to ensure it's too high or not
12:59 nerzhul   minimap has 75% of the draw_scene cost, it's high
13:03 Fixer     maybe it renders too much stuff? too much resolution?
13:04 nerzhul   mapsize is from 0 to 256x256 depending on distance
13:05 nerzhul   if there is a permanent fps drop maybe it's loaded everytime
13:09 nerzhul   i'm working on returning some constref to prevent some memory copy and unroll some things, but it's very tiny optimisations
13:09 nerzhul   and when minimap is not shown minimap is not drawed
13:10 juhdanad  nerzhul: could you dismiss your review from #5407, if you have some time?
13:10 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5407 -- Hardware coloring for item stacks by juhdanad
13:11 nerzhul   juhdanad, i worked on many things today, and i can just review your code quality as i'm not very competent for this feature
13:12 Krock     now I see why brandon stopped developing that pull. Backwards compability is pita here
13:13 juhdanad  nerzhul: no problem, of course you don't have to review any pulls. I just thought that a 'changes requested' review discourages developers from reviewing.
13:14 nerzhul   you fixed it ?
13:14 juhdanad  Yes, I did.
13:14 juhdanad  (as you can see, the diff is outdated)
13:17 nerzhul   code quality review done
13:20 juhdanad  Thank you very much! Some day I will learn code style, I hope... Do you know any software that can check my code quality before I send it?
13:20 nerzhul   experience ?
13:21 nerzhul   in fact for structures greater that 32 bits use const ref for non temporary objects which are const
13:21 juhdanad  But video::SColor is 32 bits long!
13:21 nerzhul   example, std::string toto = settings.get("tutu"); you don't modify toto, and settings object is not removed during your variable usage
13:22 nerzhul   looking for this more carefuly, as i'm working on it with minimap
13:22 nerzhul   you are right, dismiss my comment for scolor
13:23 nerzhul   SColorf is not the case just scolor
13:23 juhdanad  Now I've got to go! Goodbye and thank you!
13:23 nerzhul   no problem
13:33 Fixer     nerzhul: usually i cap my fps at 90, turning on minimap lowers it to about 70, with that antijitter patch I need to use it goes to 60 or even lower
13:36 nerzhul   sfan5, sofar nore celeron55 Zeno` ShadowNinja and forum moderators what do you think about having a new section for client mods, to prevent misunderstood/mixed mods sections ?
13:37 sfan5     sounds useful
13:42 Krock     too early right now but later definitely useful
13:43 celeron55 There needs to be a place for them when someone wants to post one
13:44 nerzhul   Krock, i don't think, also it permits to promote to modders which doesn't read github that there is it :)
13:45 celeron55 maybe a "misc mods" section, for anything that isn't a standard server mod
13:45 celeron55 then split it more over time?
13:45 Krock     hmm.. "misc" sounds a bit unclear
13:46 nerzhul   yeah, we only have client or server, you cannot really create a two sided mod
13:47 Fixer     found a bug :}
13:48 Fixer     nerzhul: if I enable CSM and log to server I seen round empty minimap
13:49 Fixer     newest engine
13:49 Fixer     could be square too
13:49 Fixer     random
13:49 nerzhul   it's not a bug, it's just preview mod
13:50 nerzhul   :p
13:50 Fixer     ah o_O
13:50 Fixer     this? https://i.imgur.com/FzO5mwg.png
13:50 nerzhul   Fixer, strange
13:50 nerzhul   i don't have this behaviour and i have them enabled
13:50 Fixer     nerzhul: when I run it with CSM enabled - there no such problem with it
13:51 Fixer     nerzhul: before
13:51 nerzhul   what action did you do ?
13:51 Fixer     just login into server
13:51 Fixer     compiled new mt, enabled CSM again, installed two other mods, logined to server*
13:52 nerzhul   i don't have your behaviour
13:52 Fixer     nerzhul: i removed preview mod and now it is ok
13:52 nerzhul   okay then it's the api usage, i don't see exactly what can happen we have same Lua :)
13:53 Fixer     nerzhul: login to Hometown server, maybe it will show up, i also have minimap_shape_round = false in config
13:54 nerzhul   oh maybe it's due to config then
13:55 nerzhul   invalid image on minimap is shown when i logged to your server
13:55 Fixer     thats not my server though
13:56 Fixer     any way to get list of CSM running mods via ingame chat?
13:56 nerzhul   atm not
13:57 Fixer     and list of commands I can use - anyone needs that too, stuff that show ups on /help
13:58 nerzhul   Fixer, for /help it's not simple, as if we catch /help /help for server will not work
13:58 nerzhul   maybe we should use . instead of / on client side
14:12 Fixer     nerzhul: https://i.imgur.com/0ZjRO37.png
14:13 nerzhul   Fixer, i don't know where does it comes from
14:13 Fixer     nerzhul: cleared config, enabled CSM, preview mod back - start singleplayer, square minimap was on in nightvision mod, turned it off, restart game, and then see this pic above with warning ^^
14:13 nerzhul   Fixer, maybe you can fix prview mod itself, we do a wrong API usage :p
14:14 Fixer     nerzhul: it is preview mod bug?
14:14 nerzhul   i think we do a wrong API usage in it, we call every call but maybe not in the right order :)
14:16 red-001   yeah it might be a good idea to use // \ or . for client-sided mods
14:16 nerzhul   . sounds better than double slash which is alread used and \ is anoying on some keyboards
14:17 red-001   / is in use?
14:17 red-001   // is in use?
14:17 red-001   dame you irc
14:17 nerzhul   worldedit if i remember, and it's better to have a first char instead of two
14:17 Fixer     nerzhul: i will file a bug anyway
14:18 red-001   it might make sense to add a keybinding for . then
14:18 red-001   we have one for /
14:25 nerzhul   oh i found an interesting unrolling optimization on updateFastFaceRow
14:25 nerzhul   a TileInfo construction/destruction take 1.8% of the global CPU
14:26 nerzhul   it's a huge object, each loop interval cost many in construction & destruction
14:47 nerzhul   FYI weblate is not affected by signed commits, est31 gave me rights and it works perfect
15:01 Megaf_    VanessaE: sfan5: What am I doing wrong? http://termbin.com/b3ey
15:01 sfan5     -O3 is probably equivalent to -O3
15:02 sfan5     uh
15:02 sfan5     s/O3/Ofast/
15:09 Megaf_    ok, will try -O0 to see if there's any change
15:18 Megaf     same binary size with -O0
15:18 Megaf     maybe some cmake thing is overwriting the flags?
15:32 * Megaf   going for export FLAGS="-march=native -mtune=native -O3 -pipe -msse -msse2 -msse3 -mmmx -m3dnow" && export CXXFLAGS="$FLAGS" && export CFLAGS="$FLAGS" && CC=gcc CXX=g++ cmake ../ -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS="$FLAGS" -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS="$FLAGS" -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
15:33 Megaf     Perhaps a bit redundant, but still.
15:33 sfan5     those -m flags are useless if you have -march=native
15:34 Megaf     ok,
15:34 sfan5     also -march=native pretty much implies -mtune=native
15:34 Megaf     I added mtune just in case
15:34 sfan5     no that's not how computers work
15:34 sfan5     generally just because you saw those flags somewhere on the internet does not mean you should use them
15:35 Megaf     well, so far it seems to be ignoring my flags, always generating the same binary size
15:35 Megaf     also, I'd like some feedback from the compiler/binary to know what flags were actually used
15:35 sfan5     run make V=1
15:35 Megaf     what's V=1?
15:36 sfan5     verbose
15:39 Megaf     Ok, thanks.
15:40 Megaf     well, march=native made a different binary, 8060304 bytes
16:06 Krock     !tell paramat [refactor content_mapblock] One comment saying "spaces around all / in your code" would already be sufficient :/
16:06 ShadowBot Krock: O.K.
16:38 Megaf     sfan5: I'm pretty happy now with this. export FLAGS="-march=native -mtune=native -O3 -pipe" && export CXXFLAGS="$FLAGS" && export CFLAGS="$FLAGS" && CC=clang CXX=clang++ cmake ../ -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS="$FLAGS" -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS="$FLAGS" -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
16:55 Megaf     hm, on latest master server is not shutting down with ctrl c on console nor with /shutdown
16:55 Megaf     2017-03-19 16:49:34: ACTION[Server]: Megaf leaves game. List of players:
16:55 Megaf     ^C2017-03-19 16:49:37: [Main]: INFO: signal_handler(): Ctrl-C pressed, shutting down.
16:55 Megaf     2017-03-19 16:51:35: ACTION[Server]: Megaf [127.0.0.1] joins game.
16:56 Megaf     2017-03-19 16:53:46: ACTION[Server]: Megaf shuts down server
16:56 Megaf     2017-03-19 16:53:56: ACTION[Server]: Megaf places node default:wood at (6,21,1)
16:56 Megaf     see?
16:56 Megaf     server still running
16:58 kaeza     Megaf, VanessaE reported the same earlier
16:59 Megaf     22:51:12 <VanessaE> maybe he's still trying to build the perfect RaspPi client ;)
16:59 Megaf     I think that would be possible now a days
16:59 Megaf     too bad I don't have USB keyboard/mouse nor screen to do tests
16:59 Megaf     16:58:33 <kaeza> Megaf, VanessaE reported the same earlier
16:59 Megaf     I missed that
17:00 kaeza     http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/2017-03-19#i_4834071
17:00 kaeza     not sure if there's an issue on GH
17:02 Megaf     kaeza: I think nobody read her
17:02 Megaf     =/
17:02 Megaf     VanessaE: did you open an issue already?
17:06 kaeza     hm, don't have that issue
17:07 kaeza     oh, wait. not updated
17:11 kaeza     compiling takes forever here :/
17:12 kaeza     for some reason `make` wants to rebuild everything from scratch each time I reboot
17:12 kaeza     Megaf, can't reproduce here by running minetestserver
17:17 Megaf     hm
17:27 kaeza     oh, that was quite trivial
18:45 paramat   can anyone look at #5388 ? tested and works well
18:45 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5388 -- Map gen limit: Rewrite by paramat
18:54 Krock     paramat, 1) rebase   2) is this now per-world? I don't think so
19:01 Krock     nerzhul, actually I meant changing it to "floatToInt((*i)->parent_node->getPosition()" but whatever
19:09 Megaf     Common guys. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3739
19:10 Megaf     rebase, check and meger ;)
19:10 Megaf     merge*
19:10 sfan5     that sound like it'd need a full rebase
19:10 nymeven   Just a simple question, when you developp Minetest, you are on which OS? Linux? Windows? Mac OS X ? :p
19:10 sfan5     full meaning its quite some work
19:11 Megaf[m]  heh
19:11 Krock     nymeven, all of them on Linux but me :P
19:11 Megaf     nymeven: myself on Debian Linux
19:11 Megaf     usually
19:11 Megaf     sometimes on macOS
19:12 Megaf     but Debian is definitely easier to use
19:12 nymeven   I'm on Debian ^^
19:12 nymeven   I'm trying to learn C++ and use Irrlicht in order to contribute to Minetest :p
19:12 Megaf[m]  no need to know C
19:13 Megaf[m]  I don't even know Lua, nor anything
19:13 Megaf[m]  yet I'm a contributtor
19:13 Megaf[m]  somehow
19:13 Megaf[m]  moreoften than not i'm just a troll, yet they feed me
19:14 paramat   no per-world comes later
19:14 Megaf     Now, seriously speaking, everybody is welcome to come and help :)
19:15 Megaf     keep an eye in our forums and another eye on github
19:15 Megaf     pick some bugs you want to follow, help debug, confirm bugs, and so on
19:15 paramat   will rebase
19:16 Megaf     paramat: speaking about #3739 ?
19:16 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3739 -- Add support for Mumble positional audio by ShadowNinja
19:16 celeron55 it takes some skill to look at two different pages with each eye, but we're already used to it
19:16 Megaf     indeed
19:16 celeron55 don't turn on your webcam while doing it
19:18 paramat   no i was referring to my own PR
19:18 Krock     paramat, what about falling entities on the bottom world border?
19:18 Megaf     paramat: oh
19:19 Krock     celeron55, nice feature you've got there? I believe I must patch my eyes somewhen ;)
19:19 Krock     s/?/!/
19:21 paramat   that's a separate problem. objects need to be allowed beyond the set limit because admin will sometimes reduce the limit, but when doing this previously generated world beyond the limit remains visible and playable. limiting objects to within the set limit is what caused so many of the bugs i have been fixing recently
19:23 Krock     ah
19:23 paramat   nerzhul is #5227 good now? it would be good to get this merged soon as it's delaying lots of work
19:23 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5227 -- Refactor content_mapblock by numberZero
19:24 paramat   essentially hmmmm was right when he wrote that only the mapgen should be limited, nothing else, and that's what i've done
20:05 paramat   #5388 rebased
20:05 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5388 -- Map gen limit: Rewrite by paramat
20:05 klmmlk    hi everybody.
20:05 klmmlk    I'm trying for the first time to compile minetest git.
20:05 klmmlk    But I have the error : /usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/lib/libcurl.a(libcurl_la-ssluse.o): référence au symbole non défini «SSL_get_verify_result@@OPENSSL_1.0.0»
20:05 klmmlk    Am on Ubuntu
20:06 klmmlk    15.10
20:06 red-001_  install curl
20:07 red-001_  if you haven't yet
20:07 klmmlk    I've tryed libcurl OPENSSL flavor, and GNUTLS flavors. The dev libs are installed.
20:07 klmmlk    every curl-libs related or curl stuff is installed.
20:07 klmmlk    versions 3 and version 4.
20:07 red-001_  did you read http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest ?
20:08 klmmlk    yes, of course. twice ;D
20:09 red-001_  well I think you can disable curl with -DENABLE_CURL=0
20:09 Megaf[m]  klmmlk: Hi
20:09 klmmlk    Hi Megaf
20:09 klmmlk    collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
20:09 red-001_  not really a fix but should bypass the issue
20:09 Megaf[m]  klmmlk: apt install build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng-dev libjpeg-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libfreetype6-dev zlib1g-dev
20:09 Megaf[m]  that will do
20:10 Megaf[m]  then, cd minetest/build
20:10 Megaf[m]  cmake ../
20:10 Megaf[m]  make -j $(nproc)
20:11 klmmlk    wrong path i think.
20:11 klmmlk    make must be run from root
20:12 klmmlk    not from build
20:12 Megaf[m]  nope
20:12 Megaf[m]  you can make from wherever you want
20:12 Megaf[m]  cmake will point the correct path
20:12 Megaf[m]  if you minetest is in your home folder, then cmake ~/minetest
20:13 Megaf[m]  I like running make inside /dev/shm
20:13 Megaf[m]  cd /dev/shm/ && cmake ~/Downloads/minetest && make -j $(nproc)
20:13 Megaf[m]  for example
20:14 Megaf[m]  klmmlk: ^
20:14 klmmlk    in your case, the root minetest directory is shm and you run make from the root project. if you cd in the build sub-dir, it won't work.
20:15 klmmlk    no, sorry.
20:15 Megaf[m]  man, you are having troubles, not me.
20:15 Megaf[m]  I'm telling you, it does not matter where you run make on Minetest. What matters is that you run cmake pointing it to where you downloaded minetest
20:16 klmmlk    if I run make in the build directory, even after running cmake from the same directory, it don't work. make speak me about no target.
20:16 Megaf[m]  the place where the game will be installed depend if you us the flag -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 or not.
20:16 Megaf[m]  ok, so from the build directory, try cmake ../
20:17 Megaf[m]  as normal user, not root
20:17 Megaf[m]  klmmlk:
20:17 klmmlk    it's what I have doed.
20:17 klmmlk    pwd: /home/mael/projets/minetest/build
20:17 klmmlk    cmake ../
20:17 klmmlk    make
20:17 klmmlk    make: *** Pas de cible spécifiée et aucun makefile n'a été trouvé. Arrêt.
20:18 klmmlk    (french preople...)
20:18 Megaf[m]  wait
20:18 klmmlk    waiting...
20:18 klmmlk    ;D
20:19 Megaf[m]  I will show you step by step, just give me 5 minutes
20:19 sofar     can you discuss in #minetest?
20:19 klmmlk    thnak you very much for your time.
20:19 Megaf[m]  sofar: Yes we can
20:19 Megaf[m]  klmmlk: lets talk about it on #Minetest
20:20 klmmlk    about compiling the dev version ?
20:20 klmmlk    or because it is not about developping but only about compiling ?
20:23 red-001_  what do you think of the system used by #4577 to transfer mods?
20:23 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4577 -- Client-side mods by duckbrain
20:53 paramat   #5429
20:53 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5429 -- Climb speed: Increase to 3.5n/s by paramat
21:03 nerzhul   paramat, sorry i was absent, looking
21:04 paramat   no problem :]
21:08 nerzhul   code quality is good, and it fixes some point i enhanced in a PR i did today, i didn't test it because it's very complexe but i sounds nice
21:34 paramat   will merge game#1634 game#1636 game#1651 in 30 mins
21:34 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1634 -- Screwdriver: simplify logic, allow wallmounted rotation. by sofar
21:34 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1636 -- Fix books backwards compatibility issues by octacian
21:34 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1651 -- Flora spread: Generalise, allow spread on rainforest litter by paramat
21:47 paramat   so i assume after another test of 5227 it could be merged? maybe i'll test it ..
22:07 Fixer     smth interesting about new leave decay https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1656
22:10 paramat   seems expected
22:13 Fixer     paramat: it is not exactly a bug, but are there any workarounds?
22:14 Fixer     paramat: you can grow 1 wood size tree, and nothing will decay iirc
22:14 Fixer     don't ask why
22:14 Fixer     just because I can
22:14 Fixer     soo weirdos will need to take down leaves manually
22:15 Fixer     i will leave it for some time for discussion and then will probably close
22:16 paramat   ok
22:16 paramat   i don't know of any simple lightweight workarounds
22:17 paramat   apart from adding trunk nodes near the leaves and removing them again
22:17 Fixer     lol
22:18 Fixer     hacky
22:18 Fixer     paramat: not good, will cause mesh updates
22:18 paramat   well it's easier for players than digging all the leaves
22:18 Fixer     paramat: what about adding imaginary wood? even if it is blocked, leaves are registered %)
22:19 paramat   i mean that's what players can do
22:20 paramat   there's no point making the code complex for a rare and minor inconvenience :]
22:20 red-001   could someone review #4468 ?
22:20 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4468 -- Load textures from the subfolders in texturepacks. by red-001
22:47 VanessaE  HDX could benefit from that ^ but then I'd have to rewrite my scale-textures script :P
23:49 red-001   well I doubt it will get merged any time soon
23:50 red-001   we should just rename nayncat to censorship cat or something an be done with this
23:52 red-001   arguing over whatever a patent troll will try to sue is pointless
23:52 red-001   s/patent/trademark
23:52 red-001   but thats just my option