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emunandPC |
like we discussed in the minetest channel, how come there isn't a Minetest app in the Amazon App Store? it seems easy to add in since Minetest for Android doesn't require Google Play APIs and that most Amazon devices run on Android |
| 01:31 |
emunandPC |
this could also give us a way to get onto iOS device officially |
| 01:31 |
emunandPC |
or rather, "officially" |
| 01:32 |
garywhite |
iOS? |
| 01:33 |
emunandPC |
Amazon App Store is downloadable through the Apple App Store |
| 01:37 |
garywhite |
I think you mean the Amazon Shop, all of Amazon's apps are on Android-only. The Amazon Appstore does not work on the Unix and BSD-based iOS |
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emunandPC |
oh did they remove it? |
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longerstaff13 |
oh, iOS is BSD-based? I thought it was Unix... |
| 01:38 |
garywhite |
It never worked with it AFAIK |
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emunandPC |
bsd is based on unix right? |
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garywhite |
& iOS is based off of a combo of Unix & a port of BSD that is used to create macOS |
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longerstaff13 |
yeah |
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emunandPC |
but its not *nix |
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emunandPC |
BSD's not Unix! |
| 01:40 |
garywhite |
BSD is part of the Unix family |
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emunandPC |
i know, its a joke of GNU |
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est31 |
emunandPC: please dont do this "instead of us", unless its an account maintained by the core team its bad |
| 02:05 |
est31 |
because even if you will never do it, we cant be sure whether you say "ZOMG it has 300 000 downloads, if I add ads I'm rich!" |
| 02:05 |
est31 |
or, you won't update it after some time |
| 02:05 |
est31 |
so someone on the core team has to step up and do it |
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emunandPC |
i thought you cannot have ads on GPL licensed code? |
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ReadySetWait |
Apparently SourceForge didn't get that memo a while back |
| 02:08 |
emunandPC |
sourceforge used to be infested with malware, i do not trust it |
| 02:10 |
est31 |
1. minetest is LGPL licensed not GPL |
| 02:10 |
emunandPC |
i would rather use github and the likes |
| 02:10 |
est31 |
2. I don't know the legalities of that |
| 02:10 |
est31 |
still, its better to be on the safe side |
| 02:11 |
est31 |
also, what happens if you stop liking minetest |
| 02:11 |
est31 |
if you say "minecraft is best, I'm not updating the app" |
| 02:11 |
est31 |
then it will be forever stuck on that version |
| 02:11 |
est31 |
you can add maintainers for lots of things, but for these kinds of app stores, where apps are totally tied to their creators, its simply not possible, sadly |
| 02:12 |
est31 |
s/creators/uploaders/ |
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emunandPC |
so most likely no amazon app store release soon unless the developers do it themselves? |
| 02:15 |
emunandPC |
yeah, LGPL allows commercial use as well |
| 02:20 |
garywhite |
Well, I uploaded MT for Windows to Download.com and anyone can do it, looks like. I was able to post it under Minetest as company name, and it filed under the same product result |
| 02:21 |
garywhite |
Plus IIRC I got c55's permission to manage the releases to Download.com for now |
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paramat |
IIRC? better check to be sure |
| 02:26 |
garywhite |
I'll ask him again tomorrow |
| 02:26 |
garywhite |
Wait, lemme dig out my logs |
| 02:29 |
garywhite |
https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/kItMYZ4P/ |
| 02:29 |
paramat |
ok cool |
| 02:31 |
garywhite |
If you go to the page on Download.com, it showed 0.4.4, then 0.4.7 as the only ones posted |
| 02:31 |
paramat |
just be sure to keep the core devs notified of what's going on, usually a core dev would do this |
| 02:34 |
est31 |
download.com is a bit different though as I think stuff is not tightly tied to the uploader there |
| 02:34 |
est31 |
as on normal android app stores |
| 02:42 |
paramat |
ok |
| 02:46 |
garywhite |
I just uploaded the 0.4.14 release last week |
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paramat |
~tell ShadowNinja please can you help with https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4909 ? |
| 03:04 |
ShadowBot |
paramat: O.K. |
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paramat |
i may have too tweak footstep gains, i made the glass one too quiet and some others are too loud |
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celeron55 |
i agree with est31 |
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celeron55 |
if a site or store only allows updates from one account, the account has to be owned by a person trusted by this community, and if the only way to allow uploads by others to an account is to compromise it, then the trusted person has to do the uploads; same thing with the signing of packages that have to be signed with the same key forever |
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celeron55 |
that doesn't mean some preparation work can't be done by a new contributor though |
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celeron55 |
to save the time of the trusted ones |
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paramat |
forum is very slow / timing-out for me |
| 06:59 |
paramat |
now improving |
| 07:14 |
celeron55 |
looks like mysqld has totally crapped onto itself during an attempt to make an automatic backup of the forum; i killed the backup and it's still stuck |
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celeron55 |
i wish the forum used postgresql |
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celeron55 |
kill -9 $mysqld? seems like a great idea, lol |
| 07:28 |
celeron55 |
well, aside from just waiting, that's the only thing i can do |
| 07:29 |
celeron55 |
it's still using 100% of the i/o capacity of that vps |
| 07:29 |
celeron55 |
doing... essentially nothing i guess |
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celeron55 |
it's continuously consuming more RAM, lol |
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celeron55 |
ok now i killed it |
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celeron55 |
well it wasn't so easy to kill but now it's dead |
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celeron55 |
i started it and it still doesn't like to exist; i think this might be some kind of a throttling situation; meh |
| 07:54 |
celeron55 |
i wish i could just choose to get billed for occasional extra resources instead of essentially paying for headache and a shut down website |
| 08:24 |
celeron55 |
this thing just refuses to work; you'll have to be without forums for the rest of the day |
| 08:25 |
celeron55 |
i killed another resource-hungry thing that was in not much use but that changed nothing |
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paramat |
forum is responsive again for me :] |
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sfan5 |
celeron55: you actually use mysql and not mariadb? :o |
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troller |
тиÑглш567890-\ |
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troller |
sorry im cat |
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celeron55 |
sfan5: mariadb's binary is called mysqld |
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sfan5 |
huh indeed, thought it was named differently |
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nrzkt |
sfan5: no for retrocompat |
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nrzkt |
libmariadbclient is also libmysqlclient.so :) |
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DuCake |
Hello - for some reason my server is not loading a certain couple of mods (most visibly, "mobs" and "zmobs") causing a cascade of non-loading mods. The reason for it however I cannot find - all mods are installed, all mods required are marked active in the world.mt and present in the mods folder, I checked the permissions on the folders and did chown -R the appropriate user (the same I am launching minetest as) but |
| 12:53 |
DuCake |
to no avail.... I ran it once with "--info --verbose" but that doesn't seem to tell me why the specific mods are not loading... |
| 12:53 |
DuCake |
http://pastebin.com/NAY73nLR |
| 12:54 |
DuCake |
change that happened previous - I did a git pull on tenplus1/mobs_redo -- but it shows no conflicts and the minetest log reveals that it didn't even try to load that mod ? |
| 12:55 |
DuCake |
Ubuntu 16.04 , build from some time in November which has been working fine over the last few reboots... |
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DuCake |
Build info: VER=0.4.14-dev-fb20b45-dirty BUILD_TYPE=Release RUN_IN_PLACE=1 USE_GETTEXT=0 USE_SOUND=1 USE_CURL=1 USE_FREETYPE=1 USE_LUAJIT=0 STATIC_SHAREDIR="." |
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sfan5 |
is zmobs a modpack |
| 12:56 |
sfan5 |
also this is the dev channel, for general issues use #minetest |
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DuCake |
ah whoops apologies |
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DuCake |
will switch over |
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garywhite |
celeron55: The Servers page on the forum is running pretty slow, idk if it is related to the issues with your SQL database last night |
| 18:03 |
celeron55 |
that doesn't make sense |
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garywhite |
General Discussion is running fine |
| 18:04 |
garywhite |
But Servers is running slow, maybe it's something with the connection here in the States |
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VanessaE |
seems fine here, takes maybe a second to refresh the page |
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VanessaE |
(at least servers.minetest.net) |
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garywhite |
Well I think I found the issue...My Internet just nipped out, so to speak |
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VanessaE |
that would do it :P |
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twoelk |
the internet nipped to speak? |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: servers.minetest.net is not related to the forum in any way |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: oh, I read it as "the servers list" |
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paramat |
hi hmmmm what do you think of #4847 ? simple but in critical code, perhaps too risky to merge just before release? |
| 23:56 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4847 -- Fix unnecessary block loading and duplicating objects by juhdanad |
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hmmmm |
whats' this |
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hmmmm |
oh god |
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hmmmm |
i see EmergeThread being modified |
