Time Nick Message 02:26 paramat sofar gmae#1374 is checked so will merge very soon, do you approve of game#1383 ? if so will merge that too 02:26 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1383 -- Default: Add 'group:cools_lava', add to snowblock and ice by paramat 02:26 paramat game#1374 02:26 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1374 -- Convert many textures to indexed, color. by sofar 02:27 garywhite #4400 02:27 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4400 -- Add zoom with new "zoom" privilege by bendeutsch 02:28 paramat closed game#1371 02:28 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1371 -- Make hand in creative mode golden by Wuzzy2 02:30 paramat 4400 was merged 02:31 garywhite paramat: How do I suggest something to be added? 02:32 paramat join github and open a new issue in the issues list 02:32 paramat either engine or MTGame issue list 02:33 garywhite ok 02:35 garywhite #4787 02:35 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4787 -- Mod store like rubenwardy's Mod Manager for Android 03:02 paramat sofar if you consider #3605 ready it can be merged, lots of approval and pilzadam has not responded 03:02 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3605 -- Play tool breaking sounds. by sofar 03:04 paramat it could be merged along with #4782 03:04 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4782 -- Make attached particle spawners respect the parent's yaw (rebased) by orwell96 03:06 garywhite Will someone explain how I pull the latest git for Windows pls? 05:27 paramat will merge game#1384 soon too 05:27 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1384 -- Creative: Fix missing item bug by tenplus1 05:34 paramat will merge that and game#1374 in a moment 05:34 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1374 -- Convert many textures to indexed, color. by sofar 05:42 paramat merging 05:43 * sofar wakes up 05:44 garywhite Hi sofar 05:45 garywhite I made a few improvement suggestions to minetest & minetest-game 05:46 paramat merged 05:49 sofar paramat: merge #3605 and close #3754 - if later on we want to refine #3605 we can, #3754 gets us nothing to start 05:49 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3605 -- Play tool breaking sounds. by sofar 05:49 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3754 -- Add on_tool_break callback by BlockMen 05:49 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3605 -- Play tool breaking sounds. by sofar 05:49 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3754 -- Add on_tool_break callback by BlockMen 05:49 sofar sorry for spam :) 05:50 sofar #4782 is ok with me as well, please merge 05:50 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4782 -- Make attached particle spawners respect the parent's yaw (rebased) by orwell96 05:52 paramat great thanks 05:52 sofar game#1383 is fine, is the group actually already handled by code yet? 05:52 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1383 -- Default: Add 'group:cools_lava', add to snowblock and ice by paramat 05:53 paramat it's a new group 05:54 paramat so eventually we can then remove 'group water' from lavacooling, once modders update their groups 05:57 paramat ok i'll merge 3605 and 4782 soon 05:59 paramat closed 3754 06:02 garywhite #3754 06:02 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3754 -- Add on_tool_break callback by BlockMen 06:02 paramat sofar once 3605 is in is game#801 ready once rebased? 06:02 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/801 -- Add tool breaking sounds. by sofar 06:02 sofar lemme rebase it now 06:02 sofar should take 2 mins 06:03 garywhite #3605 06:03 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3605 -- Play tool breaking sounds. by sofar 06:03 garywhite Sorry that I'm running all these issue numbers, but this is my first time that I've ever put any input into MT development 06:05 paramat the 3605 and 3754 links should be present earlier in chat 06:07 sofar afk 06:07 paramat ok i'll merge 3605 4782 in a moment 06:27 paramat now merging 06:31 paramat merged 06:34 paramat will merge games 801 1383 in an hour 07:38 paramat actually i'll test game 801 for sound levels 08:04 paramat levels are an engine issue, so will merge games 801 1383 in a moment 08:12 paramat now merging (again) 08:17 paramat merged 08:43 OldCoder FYI Some commit in the past 2 weeks has broken several worlds; incompatibilities with registration of some sort. I'll debug in due course. 08:43 OldCoder Are there known incompatibilities recently requiring mod patches? 16:10 red-001 could someone review #4472 ? 16:10 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4472 -- Make serverlist searchable. by red-001 17:06 sofar red-001: honestly, if you would have made the search simple like I originally requested, I think it would have been merged already :/ 17:11 sofar paramat: game#1390 is ok 17:11 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1390 -- Boats: Fix Boat yaw when entering boat by pilino1234 22:08 OldCoder 22:08 OldCoder Are there known world-breaking changes in the past 2 weeks of commits? 22:09 OldCoder About 20% of my worlds seem to break for different reasons with git-current 22:09 OldCoder I will debug, when time permits, and provide details 22:09 OldCoder 22:11 est31 OldCoder: what kind of breakage 22:39 OldCoder est31, excuse delay in response. Error messages related to registration and multiple other issues. I will debug and document. There is not just one issue. Breakage seems broad. 22:39 OldCoder I have gone back to 2 or 3 weeks ago temporarily. 22:40 * OldCoder hopes, temporarily 22:40 OldCoder Just thought I'd ask if there were known changes required for old worlds 22:40 OldCoder 22:40 est31 not really 22:40 OldCoder O.K. Then I will return later this month with documentation if errors persist with new git snapshots. 22:40 OldCoder Thank you. 22:40 est31 thx 22:41 OldCoder P.S. Mob motion seems to be part of it. 23:05 paramat OldCoder there are always breakages happening. for now, please open an issue and paste the error messages. make sure to use the mtgame version of the exact same date as your engine version 23:06 OldCoder paramat, will collect the messages after further testing. Commented here because the breakage seems broad. Have not isolated it to a single issue. 23:07 OldCoder paramat, I can't use the mtgame version of the exact same date etc. - that is the point 23:07 OldCoder Interesting subject and issue - I have dozens of worlds and the games *can't* be updated. Do you follow? 23:07 OldCoder So, I need to know what changes are needed to keep old worlds running. Are API breaking changes documented? 23:08 paramat ok 23:08 OldCoder I think the subject has just been escalated, though short-term resolution is unlikely... 23:08 OldCoder Proposal is that API changes should be documented 23:08 paramat and yes they should be, possibly in the forum 23:08 OldCoder Is this an option? 23:08 OldCoder OK 23:09 OldCoder Core devs can put responsibility for changes on world maintainers - but must give them a fair shot 23:09 OldCoder Need to have some idea of *what* to change. Are there known API changes in November? 23:10 paramat well there's too much going on to remember 23:10 OldCoder Suggestion is that - to be discussed - when API breakers are merged, they be added to a forum topic 23:10 paramat no-one can help until we see the error messages 23:10 OldCoder A core dev would start the topic 23:10 OldCoder That is separate 23:11 OldCoder The recent errors I've reported, I'll need to come back with details 23:11 OldCoder Moving forward, could a core dev open a forum thread or should I do so? 23:11 OldCoder Request will be for API changes that break things to be announced there 23:11 OldCoder Does this seem an option? 23:12 OldCoder If there is something in the source that says "this breaks API ..." that is fine too 23:12 OldCoder But API changes ought to be documented one way or another if old worlds are to be kept going 23:12 * OldCoder assumes that it is good to keep such worlds alive 23:12 OldCoder 23:19 paramat game#1391 if anyone wants to test swimming sounds 23:19 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1391 -- Default: Add water footstep sounds by paramat 23:24 OldCoder paramat, should I start that thread or is there a core dev who would do this? 23:24 OldCoder Or might noting API changes in a changelog work? 23:26 paramat no need, we already always notify people 23:27 paramat usually in the 'news' section of the forum 23:36 sofar nodeupdate? 23:36 sofar but yes, document