Time  Nick       Message
01:01 Tmanyo     Is there anyone here who could help me with formspec tables?
01:02 est31      Tmanyo: more a question for #minetet
01:02 est31      #minetest
01:02 Tmanyo     ok
01:27 paramat    will merge game#1334 game#1339 in a moment
01:27 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1334 -- Metal sounds by sofar
01:27 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1339 -- Make flammable: flowers, grasses and several crafitems by Ferk
01:41 paramat    now merging
01:47 paramat    complete
02:48 paramat    game#1341 will merge later. sofar
02:48 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1341 -- Default: Update and set volume of damage sounds by paramat
03:13 paramat    will merge this too game#1342 another sounds tweak
03:13 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1342 -- Fire: Reduce volume of flint and steel sound by paramat
03:18 paramat    will merge both in a moment
03:23 paramat    merging
03:27 paramat    complete
03:29 paramat    sofar could you approve this simple PR? it's just proper treatment of ignore #4630
03:29 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4630 -- Fix sandslides and node destruction by falling nodes. by t4im
03:30 paramat    t4im hasn't been around recently, might have to rebase that myself
03:33 paramat    hmmmm this may interest you, we have someone working on 'updateLighting', single-node updates here #4655 but contributor says they might rewrite bulk-node updates in future, perhaps the lighting bugs may get fixed
03:33 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4655 -- Improved lighting by juhdanad
05:49 nrzkt      merging #4662
05:49 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4662 -- Shaders: Apply tone mapping before fog calculation. by lhofhansl
06:06 paramat    good :]
06:13 nrzkt      hi, sfan5 are you okay with #4659 ?
06:13 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4659 -- Windows: dont link to libraries that are already linked by cmake by adrido
11:14 gpcf       I am writing some code treegen.cpp to add a tree ID to every node of the tree so I can implement a new leafdecay algorithm
11:14 gpcf       I want to set the ID in the node metadata, how do I do this in C++?
11:15 gpcf       In Lua, I would do meta = minetest.node_meta(pos) meta.set_string("ID", id)
11:19 celeron55  hmm
11:20 celeron55  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/script/lua_api/l_nodemeta.cpp
11:20 celeron55  yiu can always check what the lua api actually does
11:20 celeron55  you*
11:22 celeron55  so Map::getNodeMetadata and some related stuff
11:22 gpcf       hmm
11:22 gpcf       i'm going to have a look at it
11:24 gpcf       so if I write NodeMetadata meta = Map::getNodeMetadata(p0); it's going to give me the metadata?
11:24 gpcf       or do I have to create a Map object first?
11:24 gpcf       I'm a lot more familiar with C than C++
11:32 gpcf       can I post the function I just wrote?
11:49 red-001    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/b88595050f3af5ccac06aac331ead4ebdcb9deb9/src/treegen.cpp#L118
11:51 sfan5      nrzkt: yes that wa supposed to be an approval
11:52 celeron55  gpcf: you need to understand pointers to use that interface
11:52 celeron55  you'll get a Map object from somewhere depending on where you are in the code
11:53 celeron55  there exists only one but it's not available globally
11:53 nrzkt      sfan5: can you remember me on what ? xD
11:54 sfan5      <nrzkt> hi, sfan5 are you okay with #4659 ?
11:54 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4659 -- Windows: dont link to libraries that are already linked by cmake by adrido
11:54 nrzkt      thanks sfan5
11:54 nrzkt      i merge then
11:54 nrzkt      sfan5: did you get some time to review #4612, i really need feedback/approvals :)
11:54 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4612 -- Player class cleanup / PlayerSAO - LocalPlayer ownership by nerzhul
11:55 sfan5      haven't reviewed it yet
11:55 nrzkt      yes no problem :)
11:59 gpcf       thanks red, I've found the map now
11:59 gpcf       I've got to modify all again
12:09 red-001    is http://dev.minetest.net/Client_scripting_plans still up to date?
12:24 sfan5      probably not
12:55 gpcf       Can't build
12:56 gpcf       because of a leveldb error
12:58 gpcf       fails while linking
13:01 gpcf       i'm trying to build it without leveldb
13:19 Calinou    gpcf: Minetest is not buildable on Ubuntu 12.04 with LevelDB, you'll need disable LevelDB there
13:23 Calinou    I've seen https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4665 though, and that's likely a bug, yeah
13:34 nrzkt      #4664 is ready for review, another backport done :)
13:34 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4664 -- Implement delayed server shutdown with cancelation by nerzhul
13:34 nrzkt      sfan5: if you get time, this is a very easy PR here :)
13:49 gpcf       I've got Debian unstable
13:49 gpcf       Calinou: yeah, that's the bug I just filed
14:12 red-001    is it possible to create a light source brighter then sun light?
16:58 SavePR4530 red-001: i think not, also, avoid using more than 14
17:31 Krock      found one of the sources why the debug build was so slow:
17:31 Krock      2016-10-25 19:30:39: WARNING[Server]: active block modifiers took 12712ms (longer than 200ms)
17:31 Krock      where it was <200ms in release mode for some reason
17:32 SavePR4530 Krock: ti is not source
17:32 SavePR4530 Krock: build is slow -> abms are slow -> warning message for slowness
17:32 Krock      no no, I enabled /Ox which optimizes the code everywhere, even in debug
17:33 Krock      after the AMBs are done, it rooms very smoothly
17:34 SavePR4530 ok
17:34 Krock      default leafdecy seems to use 1s avg time
17:34 nerzhul_   Krock, valgrind with callgrind ?
17:34 Krock      lolwhat? I'm on Windows
17:34 * Krock    turns on Google
17:51 nerzhul_   Krock, VS permits to do things like valgrind but you need EE i think
17:51 Krock      sorry, what is "EE"?
17:52 Krock      I can use Windbg to parse crash dumps or to debug an application
17:52 Krock      but the thing is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIJSW5MRa6E
17:53 Krock      something seems to be slowed down horribly when running in debug mode
18:04 Krock      99% of the time is spent on _Mtxunlock in MSVCP100D
18:08 Calinou    EE = Enterprise Edition
18:11 nerzhul_   Krock, wow wtf
18:13 Krock      nvm. these 99% was the time spent in the selected function :3
18:15 nerzhul_   one coredev can approve #4667 ? it's a trivial fix on particle spawners
18:15 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4667 -- ParticleSpawner: fix offset being added twice by Gael-de-Sailly
18:18 sfan5      nerzhul_: trivial fixes don't need second approval
18:22 sofar      nerzhul_: :+1:
18:39 nerzhul_   sofar, thanks
18:41 nerzhul_   merged thanks, sfan5 i prefer sometimes have a second review :)
18:45 Hijiri     Opinions on #4488? Should I just push the issue by making a PR with whatever interface I prefer?
18:45 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4488 -- Document the "user" parameter of on_use callbacks of items
18:49 nerzhul_   Hijiri, if you have a solution, close the issue and open a pr based on it
18:51 Hijiri     there's no solution because the answer is an interface issue
18:52 Hijiri     or rather, there are multiple solutions and they have different implications for modding
18:52 Hijiri     I will just open a PR though
18:56 Hijiri     #4668
18:56 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4668 -- "Document" item use callbacks' "user" parameter by raymoo
18:58 nerzhul_   thanks for our contribution
19:01 Krock      maybe I've found the problem with the debug build. The CMake variable CMAKE_C_FLAGS_DEBUG was not set
19:01 Krock      thus, no optimizations
19:01 Krock      and bloaty Lua calls (my guess)
19:01 nerzhul_   will merge #4657 in ~10min
19:01 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4657 -- Adding LuaError on attempt to assign vectors with values out of range by Foghrye4
19:01 nerzhul_   Krock, lua bloat on windows ? strange :p
19:02 nerzhul_   and #4664 in ~2h if i'm not out :)
19:02 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4664 -- Implement delayed server shutdown with cancelation by nerzhul
19:02 Krock      bloaty as in talking too much time
19:02 nerzhul_   thanks to reviewers
19:26 nerzhul_   est31, hmmmm thanks for the typos & indent all are fixed now
19:39 Zeno`      #4530
19:39 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4530 -- Fix superflous shader setting updates by gregorycu
19:40 nerzhul_   hi Zeno`
19:41 Zeno`      yo
19:57 Hijiri     #4669
19:57 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4669 -- Make player send control information before interacts by raymoo
21:04 paramat    hmmmm nerzhul_ sfan5 please could you consider completing #4530 ?
21:04 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4530 -- Fix superflous shader setting updates by gregorycu
21:05 sfan5      sure
21:05 paramat    seems the author will not complete it
21:06 hmmmm      sure i'll take a look i guess
21:06 hmmmm      i'm kinda busy with work though
21:07 paramat    yeah, thought you'd be ideal since you have so much input in review
21:11 sfan5      added my review
21:15 sofar      man I love that github added the `rebase and merge` button
21:16 sofar      paramat: I merged game#1343
21:16 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1343 -- Add new metal sounds func. to the game_api.txt by LNJ2
21:16 paramat    thanks
21:18 paramat    sfan5 i hope this is ok https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1327#issuecomment-255948552
21:21 sfan5      paramat: the texture? IMO the branches are too big
21:21 sfan5      like
21:21 sfan5      it's just a small bush
21:22 sfan5      cut off one or two pixels
21:23 paramat    trees have really chunky trunks relative to their size, this is consistent in style
21:23 paramat    and these drop a whole wood node
21:23 sfan5      i know i know
21:23 paramat    but sure will consider
21:24 paramat    anyway will add screenshot of final bush soon
21:24 sfan5      yeah but one tree is 1 full node, one wood is 1/4 tree; branches drop wood so shouldn't they be as "thick" as 1/4 of a tree
21:24 sfan5      ;)
21:26 sofar      "meh" sorry :)
21:27 sofar      tbh you've made the texture darn well
21:27 paramat    1/4 of a tree would be 8 pixels across
21:30 paramat    i'm deliberately avoiding realism and making it chunky for consistent style, i dislike plantlife's realistic skinny twisty stems. still, i might try 4 pixels across
21:32 paramat    and make screenshots of both
21:32 paramat    by thinner branches do you mean thinner 'trunk' too?
21:36 paramat    i assume so
21:43 paramat    heh, momo PM'd me with 'hi, some new mobs on minetest'. momo you can chat about mtgame dev in this channel
21:52 garywhite  Has anyone ever thought about porting MT to Windows Phone?
21:54 garywhite  According to Wikipedia, Windows 10 Mobile (basically Windows 10 for phones) is still based off of the Windows NT kernel, thus it should be semi-compatible to Windows desktop versions
21:59 paramat    eheh ..
22:00 paramat    we can barely cope with continuing android support :]
22:03 garywhite  Just suggesting cause it says that Windows 10 Mobile you can basically use standard Windows code just adjust it a tiny bit to make it Windows 10. Just throwing it out there
22:04 paramat    that's cool