Time  Nick       Message
01:52 paramat    sofar if you're busy i could fix the error in #3497 and merge it?
01:52 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3497 -- Allow mesh and nodeboxes to wave like plants or leaves. by sofar
02:06 paramat    hm i guess it's best you fix it and test
02:07 paramat    if fixed i'll merge it, together with #4522
02:07 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4522 -- Modify default font appearance. by everamzah
10:13 est        https://github.com/est31/minetest/commit/00a7af087598df71caec9c3d61f39348c827d22a
10:13 est        paramat, PTAL
10:14 est        err sorry
10:14 est        https://github.com/est31/minetest/commit/abb6fba24f346c931bc83cc875f8756c2467c469
10:14 est        this one :)
10:15 est        if no reaction, will push in 1 hour.
10:15 * paramat  looks
10:20 paramat    yeah seems correct looking at other examples +1
10:20 est        nice
10:20 est        btw if you are interested in the implementation, look at src/script/common/c_internal.cpp
10:20 est        and at src/script/lua_api/l_util.cpp
10:27 * est      goes now
14:22 gregorycu  Well well well
14:31 gregorycu  So, is farmap a thing yet, or what?
14:31 sfan5      not really
14:32 gregorycu  Alright, see you in another 6 months
14:32 zorman2000 What is farmap about?
14:32 gregorycu  I'm still a funny fucker
14:33 gregorycu  It's mipmapping, but for terrain
14:34 gregorycu  Basically, means the server will send you low resolution terrain information for things that are distant
14:35 gregorycu  And as you get closer, it gets more refined
14:35 zorman2000 I see, this sounds very interesting, would be really good to implement it eventually
15:37 gregorycu  It's hmmmm!
15:37 celeron55  hi gregorycu 8)
15:37 gregorycu  Hello there
15:39 gregorycu  c55: farmap
15:39 gregorycu  What have you been doing this whole time :P
15:44 celeron55  all kinds of things not minetest
15:45 celeron55  which includes the thing i'm doing right now too
16:25 hmmmm      hello
16:25 hmmmm      i've been doing not-minetest as well
16:26 zorman2000 Do you guys are going to be spending some time for minetest soon?
16:29 celeron55  i did already
16:30 celeron55  maybe i'll continue soon enough but eh, promising anything would just make it feel like work for no pay 8)
16:35 zorman2000 Lots of people wouldn't appreciate your work, but I really do. I'm a new comer (have been playing for around a year and a few more months) and I have to say I really really appreciate your work on Minetest, and that of all devs
16:36 zorman2000 For instance, I'm coming up with a rain mod I will be releasing soon, and thanks to hmmmm's VoxelManip library I was able to make it much faster
16:36 zorman2000 So I know there is no actual pay, but a lot of people appreciates your work
16:36 zorman2000 Thanks!
16:39 celeron55  this is what i worked on over the weekend: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/client_player_physics_script
16:39 celeron55  if you feel like experimenting with a potential new modding API, that's something you can try
16:40 celeron55  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/compare/master...celeron55:client_player_physics_script
16:43 twoelk     I was wondering, those roll movements are local right?. If I flew a plane would another player see those roll movements? Is the server informed of local Lua activities per se or is that only an option?
16:44 celeron55  only the camera rolls
16:46 twoelk     shouldn't the server always be informed of what local Lua does - security wise?
16:47 celeron55  eh?
16:48 zorman2000 So these are client-side player physics... this looks nice... I will take a closer look
16:49 celeron55  it has zero methods for handling collisions so you can't even implement standing on nodes unless you use the messaging to ask the server where the floor is 8)
16:49 celeron55  for now
16:50 zorman2000 But in the long run this is expected to increase performance, right? Now how would you handle collisions without even asking the server...
16:51 celeron55  no, not performance, but flexibility
16:53 zorman2000 By adding more functionality to the player?
16:54 celeron55  if you have ever tried any mod that attempts to add a vehicle, you realize what it's for
17:01 Fixer_     hey guyzzzz, remember light source = 15 thing fix? It seems it won't let start the server - https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblocks/issues/55#issuecomment-248045283 Is this correct behaviour?
17:05 celeron55  well, i guess it's as intended but maybe it should instead be a warning with a limit to 14...
17:05 celeron55  maybe if moreblocks fixes itself it won't matter
17:05 Fixer_     i remember paramat and sofar was talking about just warning
17:06 celeron55  it was definitely added as an error
17:06 Fixer_     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/3aefa5d3ceaaa9299f42cc10921dec65fa53c5e0
17:10 sofar      Fixer_: merged it in moreblocks
17:12 Fixer_     sofar: thanks
17:14 sfan5      celeron55: do you happen to know how this could possibly happen? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4516
17:21 Fixer_     !tell gregorycu hi, any luck on this? https://github.com/gregorycu/minetest/tree/Jitter
17:21 ShadowBot  Fixer_: O.K.
17:22 Krock      !seen gregorycu
17:22 ShadowBot  Krock: I saw gregorycu in #minetest-dev 1 hour, 42 minutes, and 49 seconds ago saying "What have you been doing this whole time :P"
17:22 Krock      oh. He's really here sometimes
17:24 celeron55  sfan5: if a node has any metadata, it will also have an inventory... so what can be seen in that is two bytes marking the position (03 54 in the first one), then 00 00 00 00 meaning there are no metadata strings and then EndInventory\n which means there is nothing in the metadata inventory
17:25 celeron55  it seems that metadata isn't removed if it's completely empty
17:25 sfan5      yes the "useless inventories" was a misinterpretation and before i looked at the metadata format
17:26 celeron55  should be a pretty simple fix; it would be valid to just not write empty metadata
17:26 celeron55  because empty metadata is functionally the same as no metadata at all
17:28 celeron55  so, what has happened is that something added metadata to those nodes and then something removed it from all of them
17:28 celeron55  maybe someone flood-filled half of the mapblock with chests at some point in time? 8)
17:29 sfan5      that must've been me
17:29 sfan5      so basically we need NodeMetadata::isEmpty() and NodeMetadataList::serialize() to skip empty stuff
17:30 celeron55  something like that
17:42 Megaf      Folks, missing alias to doors:door_steel
18:11 sfan5      --> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4533
18:12 sfan5      #4533
18:12 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4533 -- Do not serialize empty NodeMetadata by sfan5
18:16 sfan5      ugh forgot a const again
18:21 Fixer      new snow texture looks nice
20:03 sfan5      oh also i got yet another email about the AppData.xml file in our repo
20:04 sfan5      they suggest adding a content_rating using http://apps-xdgapp.rhcloud.com/oars
20:04 sfan5      i'm not really sure on some questions listed there
20:04 sfan5      would be nice if someone else could state their opinion on that
20:08 celeron55  well, the engine doesn't really define anything other than "Uncontrolled chat functionality between players" is pretty much unevitable
20:08 celeron55  the rest is pretty much up to minetest_game
20:08 celeron55  and servers
20:09 celeron55  maybe something like https://paste.fedoraproject.org/431149/74315791/
20:10 celeron55  but it's not like we could enforce any of these, or even want to
20:10 celeron55  (due to servers)
20:11 celeron55  other than making a package that only allows singleplayer and LAN games