Time  Nick        Message
00:35 Fixer       how can I use new text selection in console?
01:45 sofar       so currently our farming crops grow to mature in 2 1/2 days. However, 60% or them are already done after 2 days
01:45 sofar       do we want them to grow to full in 3 days? or should they be done in 2?
01:46 sofar       the change to nodetimer will make them a bit more regular in growth rate
01:46 paramat     hm good question
01:46 sofar       there won't be any plants left that refuse to grow
01:46 sofar       I'm thinking of making it ~3 days
01:48 sofar       or at least, aim for no mature plants in day 1 and day 2
01:50 paramat     3 sounds good to me
01:50 paramat     2 would be too easy
01:53 paramat     i'll merge #3797 and #3795 later. 3795 is a simple change that reduces chance of spawn failing by increasing max spawn altitude to 32, so i hope no one minds me merging it on my own approval
01:53 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3797 -- Decoration API: Allow force_placement of simple decorations by paramat
01:53 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3795 -- Mgvalleys: Correct spawn problems by duane-r
02:36 paramat     now merging those 2
02:43 paramat     merged
03:01 srifqi      Nice! Seems like valleys mapgen grows fast.
05:52 sofar       ShadowNinja: http://i.imgur.com/U2JbUHi.png
05:55 ShadowNinja sofar: Cool!  :-)
05:56 sofar       I think I still have to account for facedir
05:56 sofar       50 loc so far
05:56 sofar       so not bad
05:58 sofar       it's... not actually properly connecting to the right side just yet either, lol
06:14 sofar       ok, that's fixed
06:34 ShadowNinja sofar: BTW, your macro style seems a bit odd.  Normally it's #define X do { \ | ... | } while (0) (where | denotes a newline).
06:34 ShadowNinja Eg: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3503#discussion_r54914370
06:35 ShadowNinja You have "do {\t...".
06:35 sofar       \t ?
06:35 sofar       could be editor salad
06:35 sofar       wasn't intentional. "do" on the same line is fine, obviously
06:46 ShadowNinja sofar: \t = tab.
06:46 sofar       I know what a \t is :)
06:46 ShadowNinja The "do {" should be on a seperate line as the rest of the code.
06:46 ShadowNinja sofar: I thought so, but you asked...
06:47 sofar       the 'do' can be on the same line as the #define
06:47 sofar       that's probably nicer
07:09 ShadowNinja sofar: Yep.
07:13 sofar       ShadowNinja: http://i.imgur.com/iD9mcS8.png
07:13 sofar       note the fences only connect to the back of the chests
07:27 sofar       git rebase -i ftw!
07:49 sofar       ShadowNinja: pushed, go take a look. happy about how simple that ended up being.
08:00 sofar       l8r, /afk
08:38 VanessaE    #3772 "cantfix" seriously?
08:38 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3772 -- let the server check and fix the brightness of areas and stuck liquids
08:39 VanessaE    wtf are you thinking, paramat?  if you can't fix that bug then find someone who can.
08:40 VanessaE    (of course I refer to the root problem, not tchncs' idea)
09:32 srifqi      So, no MinetestBot here?
09:33 VanessaE    ShadowBot!
09:33 VanessaE    bah, figures it wouldn't respond.
09:34 srifqi      how to interact?
09:34 srifqi      #2874
09:34 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2874 -- Please document recommended screenshot.png size in lua_api.txt
09:34 srifqi      okay, got it
09:34 VanessaE    that's how. :)
09:35 srifqi      http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2015-09-11#i_4391225
09:36 srifqi      ~tell VanessaE can ShadowBot send message?
09:36 ShadowBot   srifqi: O.K.
09:36 VanessaE    clearly it can :P
17:10 hcorion     Hi All! I've been building Minetest on windows, and I'm wondering what the spatial dependency is? Is it an alternative to SQlite3 like redis and leveldb? I checked the sourceforge page, and it sort of seemed like that is what it did, but I'm not sure. It isn't mentioned on the Database Backends page as a supported backend, so I wasn
17:10 hcorion     't sure http://wiki.minetest.net/Database_backends
17:10 hcorion     gosh darn enter button!
17:11 est31       its no database backend
17:11 est31       its R* tree implementation is used for areastore
17:11 est31       if you dont have it, there is no difference, except suff may be bit slower
17:12 Fixer       i've compiled new version, and... how i supposed to select text in console?
17:13 est31       shift arrow
17:14 Fixer       nope, it just lists history
17:14 Fixer       goes back to previous commands
17:14 hcorion     @est31 Ok, thanks, I just wanted to make sure it wouldn't just cancel out SQlite and downloading it would be a useless measure
17:14 Fixer       mouse does not select anything either
17:15 est31       Fixer, shift left arrow
17:15 est31       and shift right arrow
17:16 Fixer       est31, pfff, who needs that? i thought I can select any text in console :/
17:16 hcorion     Also, does Curses add anything to the minetest experience? I know it is a text user inteface library, but what would it change?
17:21 Fixer       #3770
17:21 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3770 -- Fix superflous shader setting updates by ShadowNinja
17:25 est31       hcorion, it adds improved controls if you run a server
17:26 est31       you can chat with your players etc
17:26 hcorion     Ok, thanks
19:49 paramat     nore sfan5 please could you consider my 8th attempt? game#880 i would like 3 approvals (majority) on this
19:49 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/880 -- Default: New jungletree_top texture by paramat
19:50 sfan5       i'm still missing some smoothness in the texture
19:50 paramat     it has anti-aliasing now on the diagonals
19:50 sfan5       but oh well
19:50 sfan5       you have my +1
19:53 paramat     wow thanks
19:54 paramat     nore is it still okay for you?
19:56 paramat     nore sfan5 i'm considering adding root/branch nodes with side textures on all 6 faces, these would appear on trees only and drop normal logs
19:56 paramat     so the inside doesn't show when used as roots and branches
21:01 kilbith     paramat, an issue should be opened against minetest_game to determine which ABM is worth to be converted to LBM
21:02 kilbith     maybe est31 can help us with that
21:02 paramat     ok.LBM seems near-ready
21:04 paramat     the meshdoors replace ABMs, the old style slabs replace ABM ..
21:06 paramat     plus it's use with nodetimer crops
21:25 sofar       all of those will get replaced
21:25 sofar       if est31 doesn't do that, then I will
22:17 sofar       paramat: what was your ETA for the 0.4.14 release again?
22:18 paramat     flexible, but freeze around march 20th
22:20 sofar       ok, so we have some time to wrap up LBM and connected node stuff
22:20 sofar       any parts that need more attention?
22:24 Fixer       that is too soon
22:24 paramat     heh
22:24 paramat     it always is
22:25 paramat     obviously many things will be unfixed, but we would never release otherwise
22:25 Fixer       guh
22:29 Fixer       if someone can fix https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3770 i will help with testing it, noone is interested in it? it gives big fps boost :(
22:32 paramat     that should certainly be in the release, even if we have to delay