Time Nick Message 00:56 Hijiri Does require require an insecure environment? I have a mod using require() but I never had to request an insecure environment (this is on 0.4.13) 00:56 Hijiri stable 00:57 Hijiri but I saw a forum post by rubenwardy mentioning that it's needed 00:57 Hijiri maybe it's just in the dev version? 01:09 ShadowNinja Hijiri: Yep, you need an insecure env. You probably have mod security desabled (set secure.enable_security=true). 01:09 ShadowNinja I toyed with adding a restricted one to the secure env, but it was kind of a mess. 01:16 Hijiri ShadowNinja: ok, thanks 01:29 est31 ShadowNinja, i'll take care of weblate 01:30 ShadowNinja est31: K, also, see my messages on your SRP patch. 01:30 est31 ShadowNinja, question: you looked at #3503 and liked the idea, also you reviewed parts of the implementation 01:30 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3503 -- Nodebox: Allow nodeboxes to "connect" by sofar 01:30 ShadowNinja est31: What timezone are you in? 01:30 est31 can you give it a full review and a +1 possibly 01:30 est31 ShadowNinja, my sleep cycle is not sun aligned 01:31 est31 my timezone is CET 01:36 ShadowNinja est31: Commented. 01:37 ShadowNinja I haven't tested it or given it a particularly thorough code review though. 01:37 est31 where do technic wires need "connect_sides" 01:37 est31 and what does connect_sides do 01:37 ShadowNinja est31: So they don't connect to, eg, the front of a machine. 01:38 ShadowNinja The machines would have something like connect_sides={"bottom","back","left","right"}. 01:39 sofar est31: you're in CET? O-o... I never suspected that! 01:39 sofar est31: I have some alternative thoughts on that, will read comments and catch up 01:40 est31 i can connect technic machines from the front too 01:40 est31 atm 01:40 sofar right 01:40 est31 only exception is switching station 01:41 est31 but that one can be handled with a second nodedef 01:41 est31 but ShadowNinja is right there should be an option of some sort allowing this 01:42 sofar I was thinking 01:42 sofar (1) account for facedir 01:42 sofar and then 01:42 sofar (2) only connect when facing node connects back the same way 01:42 sofar that would solve this without additional options 01:43 est31 that'd be a cool idea 01:43 sofar the part where we connect back is trivial 01:43 sofar the facedir accounting may be tricky, but doable 01:45 sofar there's one minor thing 01:45 sofar we only check if we connect "back" if it's a ndt_connected 01:46 sofar if the connects_to lists e.g. a "default:stone" we'd just connect irregardless 01:50 est31 but technic machines arent ndt_connected 01:50 sofar yes 01:51 sofar ahh yes, hmm 01:51 sofar they won't have a nodbox for the connecting side 01:51 sofar I was wondering if an empty list would be possible 01:51 sofar e.g. connect_down = {} 01:51 sofar I need to test that 01:54 est31 what about connects_to = "all" 01:54 est31 and then allowing to connect to all things 01:55 sofar group:all ? 01:55 sofar could have multiple uses 01:55 sofar a generic way would be better then something fence specific 01:55 sofar getIds() should implement that 01:56 est31 nah 01:57 est31 it would allocate gazillions of ids 01:57 sofar absolutely 01:57 sofar hmm, so a struct flag would be better 01:59 ShadowNinja sofar: Just connecting back won't do, because technic machines might make use of nodeboxes or meshes. 01:59 sofar ah, right 02:01 ShadowNinja I'd just do connect_sides=0b000000 or so, but you may want to do something else a little more Lua-friendly as Lua doesn't have binary constants afaik. 02:01 sofar so um, did you guys hear the news about realbadangel btw? 02:07 sofar yes. someone came into #minetest and told paramat and me. He apparently has not regained consciousness after having a heartattack 02:08 est31 oh, shit. 02:08 sofar just wanted other devs to be aware of that, since I didn't see a lot of devs around 02:10 sofar considering his apparent condition I think no dev should expect him to update any of his PR's any time soon :( 02:10 Taoki_1 Wow... that happened? I see... 02:11 Taoki Yeah, it will obviously be a delat for the dev stuff too. Hope he'll be fine in any case though. 02:11 Taoki **delay 02:12 VanessaE sofar: WHAT?!? 02:13 sofar http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2016-02-26#i_4545766 02:13 sofar I'm out for a bit. 02:15 VanessaE :'( 02:28 Taoki Think I've had enough of a dose of dark stuff for several days now. Don't need to hear of more people I know almost dying... things are really going to heck these days :( 02:32 VanessaE I've sent his girlfriend a message (she's a friend on facebook), asking for details 02:32 Taoki Ok. Highlight me too if there's any news please. 02:33 VanessaE sure. 02:34 Taoki Thanks 04:17 est31 oka weblate is merged 04:17 est31 okay* 04:29 est31 gonna push this little fix: https://github.com/est31/minetest/commit/53bf079aecc86726bfab4bf0c9bbfe594f7231ef 04:29 est31 after that I update both minetest.conf.example and the translation file 04:29 est31 and I update the po templates 04:29 est31 so that the translators can add the new strings. 04:30 est31 waiting 20 mins for sb to say yes or no, if no reply i push the fix 04:45 ShadowNinja est31: I'd probably just write " =" and then prefix a space to the value if it's non-empty. Not really an issue though, so +1. 06:59 est31 ShadowNinja, you cant reproduce with irrlicht 1.8.3? 06:59 est31 thats interesting 06:59 est31 afaik the patch isnt in in 1.8.3 07:16 est31 dam i hate touchpads 07:16 est31 you just click on buttons you shouldnt click on 07:16 est31 closing issues you just reopened 07:16 est31 :/ 07:20 kahrl oh wow, just saw the logs. Hope RBA gets better soon 09:36 Emmanuel24 Hello when will the Android version of MT finally have a sun and moon? Im on 0.4.12 and it looks just weird with the empty sky (except clouds) 13:40 Fixer If someone wants to test superfl shaders 3770, i made 64bit windows binaries with, it hugely boost my fps, but has few unresolved bugs that happen occasionally: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/files/149330/minetest-0.4.13-e8a3d22-win64-VBO-SF.zip (vbo also included and can be enabled if needed) 16:00 everamzah #3770 16:00 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3770 -- Fix superflous shader setting updates by ShadowNinja 16:01 Fixer yes 16:01 Fixer test it 16:01 everamzah superfluous* 16:01 Fixer without RBA someone should try to fix it 16:01 everamzah sure thing, takes me awhile, mostly afk 16:31 ShadowNinja !tell est31 Well, 1.8.3-2, but that's just a packager version. It's worth noting that there's a sizable delay between pressing the kay and the field being filled out though. 16:31 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K. 17:06 paramat please can anyone make -project logged? logs are essential for dev work 17:06 paramat i see useful discussions going on there 17:07 paramat manual logging by oldcoder won't be good or fast enough 17:07 paramat (no offense) 17:07 srifqi make -project (?) 17:07 srifqi what do you mean, paramat? 17:07 paramat until then technical dev discussion should be here 17:08 rubenwardy #minetest-project 17:08 Krock srifqi, most likely is an IRC channel meant 17:08 Krock eww, got ninja'd 17:08 paramat yes 17:09 paramat mod discussion is ok there though 17:10 srifqi :O 17:10 paramat ^ celeron55 17:11 srifqi what is the difference between this and #minetest-project? 17:11 everamzah #minetest-project is a higher level venue. somewhere in between #minetest and #minetest-dev 17:11 rubenwardy see proposal 17:12 paramat also -delta -doc and -mods should be shut down and logging stopped at irc.mintest.ru 17:12 everamzah -mods is sofar's now? re his gh org 17:13 paramat i mean irc channels 17:13 srifqi I can't join #minetest-delta and #minetest-mods 17:13 srifqi But, I'm alone at #minetest-docs 17:13 srifqi *#minetest-doc 17:14 srifqi okay, both 17:18 everamzah oh, ok, i thought sofar was using #minetest-mods to represent his github organization of the same name 17:19 everamzah since it wasn't used for its original purpose anymore. but i see he's not in there, and the topic was never changed. so i must have been under the wrong impression 17:19 paramat correct no relation 17:20 celeron55 paramat: this is what i was questioning oldcoder about when he wanted to create the channel and he insisted that it's useful 17:21 paramat heh 17:21 celeron55 it should have logs but i doubt xyz will update irc.minetest.ru when i should have taken it over months ago and still don't feel like doing it 17:22 paramat ok 17:22 celeron55 setting up a perl-based IRC logger on openbsd sounds like hell 17:22 celeron55 they always use some obscure modules 17:23 celeron55 but... some day 17:27 paramat nore sfan5 ShadowNinja game#872 is ready for review, and any comments on book erasing in game#876 ? 17:27 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/872 -- Default: Add 'snowy pine tree from sapling' schematic by paramat 17:27 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/876 -- Change written book formspec to word-wrap by tenplus1 17:28 everamzah erasing books is a handy addition, requires no new items, and allows the preservation of materials in case a written book is unwanted 17:29 everamzah on the other hand, it is a bit queer 17:35 paramat hi hmmmm here's a pcgrandom PR in case you want to check it #3746 17:35 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3746 -- Optimize PcgRandom::bytes() by ShadowNinja 17:35 hmmmm NO. 17:35 ShadowNinja ^ Breaks determinism for said function, may be unsuitable for merging due to that. 17:36 paramat ok no problem 17:36 hmmmm seriously stop this 17:36 hmmmm that's the way I originally implemented the function until I realized it broke on different endian platforms 17:36 hmmmm PcgRandom::bytes() doesn't even NEED to be optimized 17:39 celeron55 what 17:40 hmmmm can't you find something else in MT that needs work? 17:40 celeron55 i can't imagine anyone's opinion differing from hmmmm's in this 17:40 nore paramat: I broke my drivers *again*, so I can't test anything now, sorry... 17:40 hmmmm SN: I feel like many of your changes are changes for the sake of changes 17:40 paramat no problem 17:41 celeron55 hmmmm: regardless, let's judge them on a per-change basis; it should encourage better stuff than just judging the person 17:41 hmmmm I haven't touched minetest or even been in this channel for over a month 17:41 hmmmm I just don't want people to start messing up what is already perfectly fine the way it is 17:42 paramat nore 872 is tested just needs approval 17:42 nore paramat: do you have a screenshot? 17:43 nore (I can't see how it looks since my drivers are broken :'() 17:43 paramat i'll add one 17:48 ShadowNinja hmmmm: That patch in particular wasn't a very serious patch, I just wrote it for fun really. 17:48 ShadowNinja This should fix the website AV wornings: http://ix.io/oF8 17:49 ShadowNinja https://github.com/minetest/minetest.github.io/issues/27 17:49 ShadowNinja I moved the