Time  Nick        Message
00:01 Sokomine    not having a games/<gamename>/menu/icon.png file in one of the games makes the game crash when clicking on the singleplayer tab. can anyone reproduce it?
00:17 paramat     i can't reproduce, but i always play singleplayer
00:24 paramat     i can't reproduce, but i always play singleplayer
00:24 paramat     oops sorry
00:36 paramat     player:override_day_night_ratio() is broken, my moonrealm is dark =/
01:12 paramat     .. looking at the history of l_object.cpp i suspect this is caused by nerzhul's changes
01:13 paramat     maybe this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/f8d5af753617d502920556cff88f451ef670c210
01:17 paramat     i might try adding #include activeobject.h to l_object.cpp
01:36 est31       can't reproduce Sokomine's problem
01:36 est31       (either)
01:37 est31       perhaps its because I dont have the latest _gamr
01:37 est31       game*
01:54 Sokomine    i'm not sure yet, but it may be a problem of builtin
02:48 Sokomine    the game is relevant, but as soon as a game misses a menu/icon.png, that's it - clicking on the singleplayer tab will crash the game
02:49 Sokomine    and fixing just that doesn't help either. if a given number of games is exceeded, it'll crash again
02:49 Sokomine    (maybe no more space for further images)
02:51 est31       ok I can reproduce that
03:06 est31       also I confirm its a regression
03:34 Zeno`       #2590 looks good to go
03:34 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2590 -- Fix MSVC error caused by ed10005 by SmallJoker
03:35 Zeno`       hmmmm ^
03:35 hmmmm       oh no
03:35 hmmmm       don't tell me I messed something up
03:35 Zeno`       naughty
03:36 hmmmm       oh come on how was I supposed to know that
03:36 Zeno`       hehe
03:36 Zeno`       nobody could know that
03:36 Zeno`       MSVC is weird
03:36 hmmmm       here I thought I used a uint32_t somewhere on accident :)
03:40 Zeno`       this is worse!
04:16 Zeno`       LuaJIT not found, using bundled Lua.
04:16 Zeno`       :/
04:17 Zeno`       how can that be?
04:17 Zeno`       I didn't uninstall it
04:17 Zeno`       hmmmm, didn't you have a problem with this the other day?
04:18 hmmmm       not the other day, a few months ago
04:18 hmmmm       delete CMakeCache and try again
04:18 Zeno`       no it was the other day
04:18 hmmmm       err rather you have to delete another temp directory as well
04:18 Zeno`       I just deleted it
04:18 hmmmm       you must be thinking of freetype
04:18 hmmmm       yeah i still don't know about that one
04:18 Zeno`       I do out-of-source builds... I just delete the whole make dir
04:19 Zeno`       well I *should* have to just delete the make dir.... maybe the cmake file is broken; me checks
04:20 Zeno`       yep nothing in minetest/
04:20 Zeno`       this is weird
04:20 hmmmm       you deleted CMakeFiles/CMakeTmp?
04:21 Zeno`       yeah... I do out-of-source builds... they are all in the build dir
04:22 ShadowNinja hmmmm: So I got mailman working...  lists.minetest.net
04:22 est31       o.O
04:23 hmmmm       sweet
04:23 Zeno`       Build files have been written to: /home/crobbins/build-minetest-gcc-debug so they're going in the right place... just won't find LuaJIT
04:23 hmmmm       I'm sorta busy with work atm so i can't post anything just yet
04:23 ShadowNinja hmmmm: What lists should I add?
04:23 ShadowNinja Just minetest?  minetest-dev?  Others?
04:24 hmmmm       well i figure just minetest-dev
04:24 hmmmm       i don't forsee any general discussion on there
04:24 ShadowNinja Alright.  I'll make it fairly closed for now.
04:24 Zeno`       ShadowNinja, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/93fcab952b28f4db39d9326b83f14cbd86c0cf17#diff-f9f0a13e55af8d8849e94baf3cb0bbefR4
04:24 ShadowNinja (logs available though)
04:25 Zeno`       is that correct?
04:25 ShadowNinja Zeno`: Yes, ENABLE_LUAJIT defaults to TRUE and USE_ is set to TRUE if it's found.
04:25 Zeno`       could it be because I am using LuaJIT 5.2?
04:26 ShadowNinja 5.2?  I'm on 2.0.3, and I'm on Arch!
04:27 est31       Sokomine, your issue was introduced with this commit: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/6d61375cc72bad5c569d25c253adca4e3701dd27
04:27 est31       !title
04:27 ShadowBot   Clean scaling pre-filter for formspec/HUD. · minetest/minetest@6d61375 · GitHub
04:27 est31       somehow the fallback got disabled.
04:28 est31       before, when an image wasn't found, some alternate text would be displayed. now minetest crashes
04:30 Zeno`       err sorry. 2.0.3
04:30 Zeno`       what is NAMES luajit-5.1
04:40 est31       Zeno`, btw, why those blank space?
04:40 est31       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/9527984dbcfc0a6cc7aa0470430cb6c3aa4103ba#diff-e2b656616d911eb8d3605c2ef99f50bbR24
04:40 Zeno`       oh no reason really
04:41 Zeno`       just to make it stand out while I was doing stuff and then there was no real reason to remove them
04:42 Zeno`       e.g. see profiler.h
04:42 Zeno`       it was so that when I was scrolling I could quickly see them and not "lose them" in part of the #include
04:42 Zeno`       in/as
04:43 est31       ok
04:43 est31       I use my text editors find feature for that.
04:43 Zeno`       I am not "searching" though; I'm scanning :)
04:43 est31       lol
04:43 Zeno`       scanning to see structure
04:44 Zeno`       I didn't particularly care what the header was called at that point heh
04:44 Zeno`       or what it even included
04:46 Zeno`       like scanning pages of text for paragraphs, except... err horizontal :3
05:04 ShadowNinja The minetest-dev list is created, if anyonw wants to try it.
05:05 est31       its non-public?
05:05 ShadowNinja Zeno`: LJ's versioning is a little confusing, there's a LJ version and a compatible Lua version.
05:06 ShadowNinja est31: No, it's public, although submitions need appreval currently.  lists.minetest.net.
05:07 Zeno`       ShadowNinja, ah ok. Yes that's a bit confusing
05:07 est31       ShadowNinja, I was at the wrong page, not noticing it
05:07 * est31     subscribes
05:07 Zeno`       is there an easy way to stop Lua errors being caught? I suppose not. /me edits
05:09 est31       ?
05:09 est31       you don't want to catch them
05:10 est31       why that?
05:12 ShadowNinja Zeno`: pcall = function(f, ...) return f(...) end
05:23 Zeno`       and of course the crash never happens when running gdb :/
05:23 Zeno`       typical
05:27 Zeno`       hdf_4f.pngslc_0.png  <--- what would that be from?
05:32 Zeno`       finally got a sane error message
05:34 Zeno`       est31, so I could get this: #2541
05:34 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2541 -- Singleplayer World Crashes - Malformed Packet Read, Server Running Different Version of Minetest.
05:34 Zeno`       instead of garbage ;)
05:40 Zeno`       not that it help a lot
05:40 Zeno`       lol
05:48 Zeno`       there you go est31... a backtrace. You may debug it
05:49 est31       lol
05:49 est31       btw seen #2591 yet?
05:49 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2591 -- Formspec image_button crashes for empty filename (regression)
05:49 est31       first I need to reproduce it
05:50 Zeno`       yeah, have really looked at it though. was trying to get that backtrace for 2541 (annoyingly the issue wasn't happening often for me :/)
05:51 Zeno`       haven't
05:52 est31       hm, how old is your map?
05:54 est31       but I guess its of some other other, a more deeper, origin
05:54 est31       with network code perhaps
05:57 Zeno`       my map?
05:57 Zeno`       it's not my map
05:57 est31       nvm, I think the error is inside some network thing
05:58 Zeno`       The error, caused by a network packet, is in ClientEnvironment::addActiveObject
05:59 Zeno`       doesn't seem to be reading the size?
06:00 est31       havenhttps://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/70074800a207974a0c1383275186cefe6955f297/src/object_properties.cpp#L149
06:00 est31       it fails reading the version
06:01 est31       line 115 of that file
06:03 Zeno`       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/util/serialize.cpp#L116
06:03 Zeno`       ^^ that is what's throwing the exception though
06:03 Zeno`       isn't it?
06:04 est31       at least not from the error you posted
06:04 Zeno`       e = @0x7fffb2dd5e50: {<BaseException> = {<std::exception> = {<No data fields>}, m_s = "deSerializeLongString: size not read"}, <No data fields>}
06:04 est31       yea
06:05 Zeno`       hmm
06:06 Zeno`       yes
06:40 Zeno`       hmmmm, have you seen c55 recently?
06:41 hmmmm       he was last seen talking about mailing lists about 3-4 days ago
06:41 hmmmm       !seen celeron55
06:41 ShadowBot   hmmmm: I saw celeron55 in #minetest-dev 1 day, 8 hours, 2 minutes, and 9 seconds ago saying "i have decided to switch the name of Minetest back to Communismcraft"
06:41 hmmmm       oh that
06:41 Zeno`       lol
06:41 Zeno`       I like the name change
06:41 hmmmm       those damn free software commies
06:41 Zeno`       hippies
06:42 hmmmm       I made noise.cpp 2-clause BSD
06:42 hmmmm       :)
06:42 hmmmm       true freedom
06:42 Zeno`       you're a commie
06:42 hmmmm       FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM
06:42 Zeno`       ok, you're william wallace
06:42 hmmmm       maaaaan
06:42 Zeno`       just wondered if he'd considered new core devs yet I guess
06:43 Zeno`       we don't have enough devs :(
06:43 hmmmm       but we don't need to go adding core developers willy nilly
06:43 hmmmm       est31 is good, i agree
06:43 Zeno`       of course not
06:43 hmmmm       but who else
06:43 Zeno`       well, just est31 atm probably
06:44 hmmmm       smalljoker would probably be good too but he's not super active
06:44 hmmmm       and darkrose should probably be removed
06:44 Zeno`       !seen darkrose
06:44 ShadowBot   Zeno`: I saw darkrose in #minetest-dev 51 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 49 minutes, and 57 seconds ago saying "actually they can do it, as LGPL 2.1 explicitely allows upgrading to GPL"
06:45 Zeno`       she seems active
06:45 hmmmm       51 weeks man
06:45 Zeno`       lol
06:45 hmmmm       that's almost a year
06:45 Zeno`       I guess that's when she forked
06:45 hmmmm       no she forked way longer ago than that
06:45 est31       I think it was when freeminer got GPL
06:45 hmmmm       i didn't know that darkrose was involved in a fork until more recently
06:45 Zeno`       I've only ever spoken to her once and that was when I PMd her
06:45 est31       (from the message content)
06:45 hmmmm       i thought she was just a very inactive dev
06:46 hmmmm       i don't personally like darkrose
06:46 hmmmm       the only time i spoke to her she was committing something very dumb and dangerous
06:46 Zeno`       Well, she's Australian; all Australians are weird
06:46 hmmmm       and i remember i went into rage mode
06:46 Zeno`       haha
06:46 hmmmm       actually now i'm curious about what the context of that convo was
06:47 Zeno`       well you may search the logs
06:47 Zeno`       lol
06:47 Zeno`       selat, I still haven't gotten around to your PR :3
06:48 est31       aren't you australian too Zeno`?
06:48 Zeno`       est31, I am
06:48 est31       lol
06:48 Zeno`       hmmmm, anyway maybe suggest to c55 est31 (he may have missed your approval)
06:49 Zeno`       est31, what's wrong with being Australian?
06:49 Zeno`       xD
06:49 est31       <Zeno`> [...] all Australians are weird
06:49 est31       :p
06:50 Zeno`       it's true!
06:51 est31       why should i believe a randomly bunched lunatic?
06:51 est31       http://www.minetest.net/
06:51 est31       "and is now developed by a random bunch of lunatics."
06:52 est31       but gtg now
06:52 hmmmm       oh wow, darkrose talked a lot more than i recall
06:52 est31       bye
06:52 hmmmm       lots of devs came and went
06:53 Zeno`       yes
06:53 hmmmm       i can't find it =/
06:53 hmmmm       i remember doserj and dannydark were good but they just sorta disappeared
06:54 Zeno`       I guess people move on when their interest fades or priorities change
06:54 Zeno`       shame
06:54 Zeno`       anyway, I must take my kangaroo for a walk; it'd be nice to have est31 on-board though (even though he yells at me)
06:54 hmmmm       i'm always worried that they don't get frustrated with the minetest patch submission process
06:55 Zeno`       well, that as well
06:55 Zeno`       it is quite frustrating at times
06:55 Zeno`       bbl ;)
06:55 hmmmm       bye
06:55 hmmmm       i should go too
06:55 hmmmm       all i'm doing is coding some lame dns parser for work :/
07:27 nrzkt       hmmmm: why rewrite DNS parser instead of re-use an existing one ?
07:27 jin_xi      they need a lame one...
07:32 nrzkt       oh, i understand why, it's because it's dell: okay, not use well working things under bsd licence, recode broken things :D
07:33 kilbith     finally the cause of the crash has been pointed out : https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2541#issuecomment-88576964
07:33 nrzkt       i see that
07:34 nrzkt       look at the different solutions and provide the patch today
09:04 celeron55   i now added est31 to the core team on github and removed darkrose
09:05 celeron55   (there seemed to be an agreement on both)
09:06 neoascetic  Hi. Does perlin noise generator available trough Lua API takes care of neighbor chunks? I. e. generated noise will not look too different in context of several chunks?
09:51 Megaf_      Hi all, what do I have to do to compile a 32 bit version of Minetest on 64 bit machine? Install the 32 bit libs and what else?
12:55 kilbith     Zeno`, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2541#issuecomment-88885464
12:55 kilbith     can you revert that please ?
12:57 Zeno`       revert the comment?
12:58 kilbith     the commit mentionned by Megaf_
12:58 kilbith     and LazyJ
12:58 Megaf_      Zeno`: Hi there, I can confirm that that comment is causing the crash
12:59 Zeno`       I'd rather it was fixed than reverted
12:59 Megaf_      Zeno`: do you have any idea on how to fix that then?
12:59 Zeno`       not at the moment, but lookin
12:59 Zeno`       g
13:01 Zeno`       messy :(
13:02 Zeno`       The thing I'm worried about is that this particular commit exposed a "deeper" bug
13:02 Zeno`       reverting it would just hide it
13:02 kilbith     a crashy bug as well ?
13:02 kilbith     not worse than the current one i guess
13:02 Zeno`       well yeah. I can reproduce it quite reliably now
13:03 Zeno`       which is how I got the non-corrupted error message and backtrace
13:04 Zeno`       But with the backtrace I supplied surely nazghul can fix it :/
13:05 Zeno`       I *could* fix it but I am not sure why it's happening it the first place... just *how* it's happening
13:05 Megaf_      Zeno`: the test server with that reverted 187.113.244.197 30003
13:07 kilbith     Megaf_, i confirm : everything's fine in reverting that shit
13:07 Zeno`       get another dev to agree an I
13:07 Zeno`       get another dev to agree and I'll revert it
13:07 Zeno`       atm I want to look more closely
13:08 kilbith     sfan5, kahrl ^
13:08 kilbith     urgent
13:09 Megaf_      https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/bfc4652c#commitcomment-10545461
13:09 Zeno`       there are two issues here: a) the server is sending dumb packets (because of that commit it seems); and b) the client is not ignoring malformed unreliable packets as it should
13:10 Zeno`       brb
13:53 Zeno`       ok, well that's certainly the commit
13:53 Zeno`       causing the crash I mean
13:53 Zeno`       where is nazghul?
13:55 Zeno`       will merge #2593
13:55 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2593 -- Fix crash caused by null texture in GUI formspec/HUD. by Warr1024
16:53 paramat     this bug urgently needs fixing https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2501#issuecomment-85078339 still present in latest dev
17:11 VanessaE    I can confirm that on my creative server (with damage *dis*abled), I still appear to take damage from falls, lava, etc even though I have no heart bar displayed.  no idea if it'll actually "kill" me though
17:12 VanessaE    (the server is at commit 284fefb0c )