Time  Nick         Message
00:55 iqualfragile Fresh_meat_: minetest is more of a cpu and less of a gpu benchmark
07:46 ShadowNinja  ~tell sapier Your android build sends all chat twice.
07:46 ShadowBot    ShadowNinja: O.K.
08:42 RealBadAngel hi
08:42 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, have you tested shaders commit?
08:43 ShadowNinja  RealBadAngel: Nope.  And heading off to bed now.  I might nor have a chance to until the weekend.
08:45 RealBadAngel i do have next commit almost ready but for that i need previous part merged
08:46 RealBadAngel i have rebuilt shader.cpp and prepared it for various kind of shaders, including postprocessing
08:48 RealBadAngel you have saw the code i was interested in, i have mixed it with ours
11:14 RealBadAngel well, with modifications to mapblock_mesh.cpp and shader.cpp i think ive gained 15-20fps on my box
11:15 RealBadAngel im hitting all the time 60fps, while a few weeks ago i was having 25fps
11:15 RealBadAngel and this is with all the shader effects enabled
11:16 RealBadAngel and 256x textures ofc
11:24 celeron55    what kind of modifications
11:25 RealBadAngel shaders are no longer created in mesh collector, theyre prepared on startup
11:26 RealBadAngel each material can have own shader
11:26 RealBadAngel it is possible now to send variables to shaders per node
11:27 RealBadAngel before shaders were instantly rebuild or fetched from cache
11:27 celeron55    so it works now closer to the speed of when no shaders are used
11:27 RealBadAngel its significantly faster
11:27 celeron55    well that depends on the GPU
11:28 RealBadAngel ofc, but i havent changed my gpu for 2 yrs
11:28 RealBadAngel and got double fps now
11:29 celeron55    if you can ever make anything that uses shaders that runs faster on my old laptop (950GM) or my desktop computer (i3 integrated), you're... ehm, getting false results
11:29 celeron55    but i guess on more high-end things that might be true
11:30 RealBadAngel i cannot make everything faster but i can move some things from runtime to startup
11:30 celeron55    in my book 2 years is very new
11:30 RealBadAngel take a closer look at meshcollector, there are lotsa things that should be done just once
11:31 RealBadAngel not on every refresh
11:31 celeron55    why are you trying to re-explain what you already said
11:31 celeron55    you always do this
11:31 RealBadAngel uh, ok ;)
11:32 RealBadAngel btw, with those changes ive managed to return to single shader for terrain
11:32 celeron55    how many were there before?
11:32 RealBadAngel 5
11:32 RealBadAngel mostly copy pasted
11:34 RealBadAngel now i can have more shaders but just one for nodes, another for sky, water surface etc
17:49 tomasbrod    The windows client lags a lot on my machine even if renderdistance=5, while other 3D openGL games are OK.
17:49 tomasbrod    I will try to diagnise it.
18:28 VanessaE     tomasbrod: lag != low fps
18:28 VanessaE     please do not mix the two up.
18:32 proller      mt have both
18:40 VanessaE     it can, yes
18:40 VanessaE     but the two are not the same and happen independently of one another
18:40 VanessaE     especially if the server and client are running a separate processes
18:44 celeron55    tomasbrod: what GPU
18:44 celeron55    you're likely hitting the choppines caused on some GPUs by the dynamic loading of new meshes
18:44 celeron55    in minecraft it's even more visible
18:46 celeron55    we're quite limited in what we can do to counter it when doing stuff with irrlicht
18:48 celeron55    (without irrlicht there might be some kind of options using more advanced opengl)
18:49 celeron55    actually, i'm not 100% sure it's that
18:49 celeron55    it hasn't been throughly diagnosed and could be due to something else, or could be due to a number of different things
21:19 tomasbrod    Sorry for no answer. I was bussy and forgot to logout.
21:19 tomasbrod    By the lagging I mean low fps when turning around.
21:19 tomasbrod    When moving camera slowly, fps is high even on view range 40, but if I turn around spf (secon per frame) is about 5.
21:19 tomasbrod    I will post more details tomorrow.
21:21 proller      because draw list rebuild
21:22 tomasbrod    Yes.
21:23 tomasbrod    Next thing. If I the window looses focus while joining game, the game freezes and when I kill the process then system hangs and beeps.
21:24 tomasbrod    No problems on older versions (i have to test which), however.
21:30 VanessaE     system hang+beep is your OS being busted,.
21:30 VanessaE     the window losing focus and crashing the game is a known bug though
21:31 VanessaE     (but that it causes an OS crash is your OS's fault)
21:31 VanessaE     the FPS sagging while you turn around is a known issue also.  one way to help it is to lower your maximum view distance to something like 60 to 80, something that'll always be sure to render at a reasonable speed
21:34 tomasbrod    Thnks
21:35 tomasbrod    However, I do not seek help. I just letting you know :)
21:35 tomasbrod    am
21:35 proller      also you can get stable 60 fps with 0 view distance!
21:36 proller      i like play with 1000
21:38 tomasbrod    proller: 60? There is a fps limit? Oh, I see something in config.
23:04 Fresh_meat_  sfan5 : sorry, I didn't have anytime to look at the patch you made, I hope I can do it tomorrow, anyway, I sent your work to Michael (the guy behind the phoronix test suite)