Time Nick Message 00:03 sapier https://gist.github.com/sapier/8907170 this is how old/new clients behave with my latest fixes 01:17 Exio4 [15:15:51] <+hmmmm> you're right, linux doesn't have it < you can use "libbsd" 01:17 Exio4 :P 17:18 VanessaE UGH! will someone PLEASE add some kind of color-coding to the chat window? or at LEAST make /msg's stand out better? they get lost in a busy chat WAY too easily 17:32 Calinou +1 for colors 20:37 emptty1 sapier: I can test whatever you want, tonight 20:37 emptty1 I'm done redacting that 20:37 emptty1 s/redacting/writing/ sorry for my broken english 20:45 sapier ok first thing we need to find out your exact environment, 20:46 emptty1 debian testing 20:46 sapier cpu, gcc, glibc, irrlicht version, debug / release build, luajit version 20:47 sapier do we have a issue for this one already? we should create a issue for this and add this information so you don't have to add it twice 20:48 emptty1 We have http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=733974 but that's all for now 20:48 emptty1 (I guess) 20:48 sapier well we can link to this one too 20:52 emptty1 gcc 4:4.8.2-2 ; libc6 2.17-97 ; libirrlicht1.8 1.8.1+dfsg1-1 ; libluajit-5.1-2 2.0.2+dfsg-1 20:54 emptty1 cmake flags: -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DFREETYPE_INCLUDE_DIRS=/usr/include/freetype2 -DFREETYPE_INCLUDE_DIR_ft2build=/usr/include -DCUSTOM_LOCALEDIR=/usr/share/locale -DCUSTOM_SHAREDIR=/usr/share/games/minetest -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr . 20:54 emptty1 sapier: did you got the package versions? 20:54 sapier back ... sorry tested if it's a connection issue 20:54 sapier I'm gonna look in log 20:55 emptty1 applied patches: http://sources.debian.net/src/minetest/0.4.9%2Brepack-4/debian/patches 20:57 emptty1 sapier: what info you need about my CPU? That's an amd64, but I can provide more advanced info on need 20:57 sapier how fast? 20:58 emptty1 quite a lot 20:58 emptty1 that's a brand new machine 20:58 emptty1 cat /proc/cpuinfo reports 5986.60 bogomips, if it helps you (I don't understand it myself) 20:59 sapier intel core i7? 21:00 emptty1 Indeed. Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3540M CPU @ 3.00GHz 21:01 emptty1 (according to /proc/cpuinfo again) 21:01 emptty1 4 cores 21:01 emptty1 16Gb of RAM, SSD disk 21:01 emptty1 quite a neat machine :) 21:02 sapier wow :-) ok as we assume this to be a race condition I don't expect to be able to reproduce it on my phenom II x4 :-) 21:04 emptty1 well, tell me what I can do to help you :) 21:06 sapier you could try to create a few more gdb backtraces, case we're lucky this effect will show in different ways 21:06 sapier and console output for those situations 21:06 sapier but don't try to long if you don't feel anything different to happen 21:16 emptty1 well I didn't try yet. I got interrupted, sorry 21:17 sapier no problem same happens to me quite often 21:33 emptty1 sapier: 5 backtraces, and no difference 21:34 sapier :-( guess it won't change 21:34 emptty1 I get exactly the same bt as in the debian bug 21:34 sapier seems I have to find it in theory 21:35 emptty1 I'm fireing an older machine to see whether the CPU speed has any impact 21:35 emptty1 I also checked in ~/.minetest/debug.txt, but nothing there 21:36 sapier that'd be interesting 21:41 emptty1 Mmm, gime some time: one machine has not gdb installed, and the other lacks the minetest debug symbols 21:41 emptty1 That's installing right now, but the network is not very fast here 21:41 sapier do they crash too? 21:43 emptty1 yes for the middle range one, and no for the slow one 21:43 emptty1 but I don't see no public server either 21:44 sapier hmm interesting ok I guess my machine could be called slow in between 21:46 emptty1 Should I detail the hardware a bit? 21:46 sapier yes maybe I can find a machine with similar performance 21:48 emptty1 I just checked, the slow machine on which it works has exactly the same versions of irrlicht, luajit and libc6 21:48 sapier what's the slow machine? 21:50 emptty1 intel core2 2ghz 21:50 emptty1 3994.76 bogomips 21:50 sapier hmm that's quite slow 21:50 emptty1 I told you ;) 21:50 emptty1 but I cannot reproduce the bug here 21:50 sapier actually it's almost same performance as mine 21:50 sapier which somehow matches 21:51 sapier and the mid machine? 21:51 emptty1 I can on the middle-range one, which is a core i5 @ 2.53Ghz 21:51 emptty1 5054.21 bogomips 21:51 sapier my laptop is a core i5 too ... hmm maybe that's an option 21:52 emptty1 On the core i5, it seems to me that I have to wait one or two extra second before triggering the bug 21:52 emptty1 but that's very empiric 21:53 emptty1 is it expected that I don't so no public server? (even on the machine that does not bug) 21:54 emptty1 all three machines are laptops, btw. But I'm not sure that this is relevant 21:54 sapier no you should still see it 21:55 emptty1 well, I restart 21:55 emptty1 and my net connection is really overcrowded, as I'm currently uploading the debian package of widelands ;) 21:56 emptty1 Almost 300Mb to upload through a 512k upload link :) 22:31 emptty1 sapier: I go to bed now 22:31 emptty1 we can discuss about it tomorrow night if you need more test 22:33 sapier ok good night