Time  Nick     Message
07:00 hmmmm    i hate microsoft
07:00 hmmmm    this is complete bullshit
07:12 VanessaE ?
07:13 VanessaE well everyone hates them, but why now?
07:15 hmmmm    http://paste.dy.fi/c2u  i got it :p
07:15 hmmmm    so then now I can do this:
07:16 hmmmm    #ifdef _WIN32 #define strlcpy(d, s, n) strcpy_s(d, n, s) #endif
15:56 tomreyn  hey there
15:57 tomreyn  looks like you're not using coverity's free (for open source) static analysis, yet: https://scan.coverity.com/projects?search=minetest
15:58 tomreyn  i'm not affiliated with them, but it's kind of useful.
17:47 hmmmm    guys
17:48 hmmmm    when you are *making* a lua api that takes some sort of flags field, don't go and do your own thing, use getflagsfield() instead
17:48 hmmmm    this accepts both the string flag format, "flag1, flag2, noflag3" or a table boolean format {flag1=true, flag2=true, flag3=false}
17:51 sapier   can you add a doc in lua_api too? (if not already there)
18:00 sapier   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1143 ... new aproach for clean client init. Investigation has shown the initial attempt to use existing messages to detect client beeing ready doesn't work reliable. Therefore it's useless to "abuse" a existing message as "ready". I added a new one which is now really sent only on client ready (after media, texture loading and preloading item images).
18:01 sapier   old clients will (hopefully) work as good as before. but could suffer about some bugs hidden by broken texture dowload before.
18:11 MrElmux  latest git suffers from (probably) missing strlcopy in c_content.cpp
18:11 hmmmm    is that on windows?
18:12 hmmmm    MrElmux, try this https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/3b7c5ca963a398a22dd2daa3406859040e7a8c5d
18:12 MrElmux  no Arch Linux
18:13 hmmmm    hmm
18:13 MrElmux  missing headers ?
18:15 MrElmux  it seems that strlcopy isnt a standard c function
18:15 hmmmm    oh wow
18:15 hmmmm    i'm sorry
18:15 hmmmm    i thought it was posix standard for some reason
18:15 hmmmm    you're right, linux doesn't have it
18:26 hmmmm    well
18:26 hmmmm    fuck drepper
18:26 hmmmm    i wonder how much C he writes outside of glibc
18:26 hmmmm    probably zero
18:27 hmmmm    such a pompous, arrogant attitude, and thanks to him everybody who wants to use strlcpy and strlcat have to reimplement them
19:03 MrElmux  thx works again
19:08 sapier   https://gist.github.com/sapier/8904455 Does anyone (except me) understand what I have written in there?
19:09 hmmmm    i get it
19:09 hmmmm    wow that's actually a very nice diagram
19:09 hmmmm    haha
19:10 sapier   it's the new handling only ... old one was quite chaotic
19:12 sapier   well it did work ... but did create "states" from multiple bool variables set or not set
19:39 emptty1  sapier: you may want to look at http://plantuml.sourceforge.net/
19:41 specing  java. NOPE
19:43 sfan5    eeeww.. java
19:44 sfan5    sapier: you may want to respond to https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1143#issuecomment-34580868
19:50 sapier   thanks emptty ... I've been looking for something like that before :-)
19:51 sapier   well celeron55 didn't say anything about client and there's already something linke a client version so it's not a real difference
19:55 sapier   and as I said the lua access is optional.
19:56 sfan5    can you add suggestion 1 then
19:56 sfan5    ?
19:56 sapier   what's system information good for?
19:56 sfan5    nothing
19:57 sfan5    just informal
19:57 sfan5    could be used for statistics
19:57 sapier   what exactly do you mean with "systeminformation"?
19:58 sfan5    >Return system information
19:58 sfan5    >e.g. "Linux/3.12.7 x86_64"
19:58 sapier   and where to get that information?
19:58 sfan5    do you even click the link
19:58 sfan5    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/porting.h#L170-174
19:59 sapier   what's this gonna result on windows?
19:59 sapier   w
19:59 sapier   nothing
20:00 sapier   wrong file
20:00 sfan5    Windows/6.1-Service_Pack_1 x86 for example
20:03 sapier   I guess it won't be a big issue ... except I don't like to send more information about client then necessary ... especially as this is not minetest data
20:03 sapier   lets hear what others do think about this first
20:03 sfan5    it is sent with the http user agent too
20:03 sfan5    the server would get it anyway
20:04 sfan5    (when the client uses http to fetch things [assuming remote_media and the mt server are on the same machine])
20:04 sfan5    but it is available to lua this way too
20:24 sapier   http is a feature you don't have to use
21:26 hmmmm    ahhhh
21:26 hmmmm    m_emerger was the work of kahrl
21:27 hmmmm    pretty sure I can eliminate the entire IBackgroundBlockEmerger interface now
21:37 hmmmm    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/89f7dc1efd6b0062b4b9e5c3509c301ccadb7a13