Time  Nick      Message
19:12 BTtoArch  celeron55, did you contact MiJyn about the C++ mob system he was building? I think he said it was almost ready or something
19:15 BTtoArch  I know this is not _exactly_ core development (as I'm not developing, I'm just communicating), but he said that contacting through #minetest-dev is better than /msg'ing you, is that correct? I'm sorry if it's not, I'm seriously a newbie at this...
19:15 BTtoArch  I'm just communicating for him (I live right beside him, though we use the same modem)
19:32 celeron55 BTtoArch: ummmmm... sounds like something i need to look at sometime
19:33 BTtoArch  oh, I thought someone told you about that previously!
19:33 celeron55 i can't promise anything and i will forget everything, probably
19:34 celeron55 thus try to work with some less busier people than me
19:34 BTtoArch  ok, just tell me someone who can merge and review, and I'll contact him instead :)
19:34 BTtoArch  I have actually not really played the game (I'm just acting as a relay)
19:35 BTtoArch  well, I have, but not developed it or anything
19:35 celeron55 ehm
19:35 celeron55 that's easier said than done
19:36 celeron55 hello everyone, could anyone look at this? 8)
19:36 VanessaE  ha!
19:37 celeron55 there is a huge gap between those who have any idea about the core side and those who just do modding
19:37 celeron55 and the first ones are rare and generally not around
19:37 celeron55 and generally only interested in small parts of the thing
19:38 BTtoArch  I know...
19:38 BTtoArch  I have done a bit of C/C++ coding
19:38 celeron55 and i need to focus on something totally different at the moment
19:38 BTtoArch  I've seen a bit of the minetest source (though not nearly enough)
19:38 BTtoArch  ok, well good luck on your work!
19:39 BTtoArch  code well! :P
19:39 VanessaE  celeron55: it might be in everyone's best interest to give darkrose access to the repos.  Less work for you to have to do.
19:40 celeron55 your options are 1) wait, and possibly remind after some weeks; 2) continue the work and get people interested without me being between you and the people
19:41 BTtoArch  celeron55, I don't think you are getting it. MiJyn was not coding a mod, he was coding some engine stuff (you can ask him for more details, I only know a bit about it)
19:41 celeron55 VanessaE: he hasn't been here for days
19:41 VanessaE  she.
19:41 VanessaE  and yeah I noticed.
19:41 celeron55 ehm, whatever
19:41 VanessaE  just my best suggestion.  I know you're trying to avoid too much focus on minetest right now.
19:42 celeron55 BTtoArch: yes and that makes it problematic; you can't just throw something and expect it to work well and suit the general interest and the interests of me; much less than with a mod
19:43 BTtoArch  I think it's just a scripting API
19:44 BTtoArch  I'm seriously unsure about what it is
19:44 BTtoArch  like the details
19:44 celeron55 anyway, nothing more to do about it currently; your job is done for now 8)
19:44 BTtoArch  :D
19:46 celeron55 VanessaE: i have seriously never even thought about the gender of darkrose; i find it odd that nobody hasn't caught me on saying "he" before (in finland we don't have separate words for he and she so i don't need to care in my thinking)
19:47 celeron55 (one of the reasons i love finnish is exactly that, in fact, as an offtopic thing)
19:49 VanessaE  celeron55: it's no biggie.  This is the internet - where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI agents.
19:51 celeron55 some non-computer-geeky people have sometimes been unsure about my gender - people who don't know that celeron is a cheap-ass processor 8)
19:52 VanessaE  heh
19:53 BTtoArch  lol, is the celeron family still being produced?
19:53 VanessaE  "in finland we don't have separate words for he and she" .. interesting actually since some languages go totally the opposite, assigning gender even to inanimate objects
19:53 celeron55 BTtoArch: it is, but they're rarely sold anywhere as-is
19:54 celeron55 BTtoArch: some cheap pre-built computers have them
19:54 BTtoArch  VanessaE, *cough*spanish*cough*
19:54 BTtoArch  celeron55, oh, I see
19:54 VanessaE  huh.  Guess it's like the Z80 or 6502...some companies still make them even today
19:54 BTtoArch  I'm not an intel-geek here, but I imagine that Pentium is better?
19:55 celeron55 ehm, no, celerons are just the lowest speed chips of whatever family of x86 processors is produced at a given time
19:56 celeron55 like, currently there are sandy bridge celerons
19:56 celeron55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116410
19:56 VanessaE  oh?  didn't know that
19:56 celeron55 complete shit, but plugs into relatively modern motherboards
19:56 VanessaE  I figured they were still the old K6-class stuff :-)
19:57 celeron55 and nobody sells those separately
20:01 BTtoArch  I assume you do not use those?
20:02 VanessaE  Phenom II X6 (1055T) FTW :-)
20:02 celeron55 BTtoArch: it's a secret!
20:02 BTtoArch  ll
20:02 BTtoArch  *lol
20:08 celeron55 now that i think of it, i am pretty damn impressed if darkrose is a female
20:09 celeron55 you just don't see those coming and coding away C++ and Lua at the same time, thing that almost nobody can do here
20:16 celeron55 (i love it when i have an actual reason to sound like sexist or some other unappreciated thing)
20:16 celeron55 8)
20:16 VanessaE  heh
20:16 VanessaE  well to be perfectly blunt, you're absolutely right
20:16 VanessaE  those of us who know multiple languages are a rare bird, and I really don't understand why
20:17 celeron55 "us"?
20:18 BTtoArch  pourquoi?
20:18 BTtoArch  I thought most of us could speak more than one
20:18 VanessaE  celeron55: yes.  I know 5 programming languages myself, two of which are obsolete.
20:18 VanessaE  I just don't know C++
20:19 BTtoArch  oh, program in more than one
20:19 celeron55 C++ is like the only language in the world i can allow somebody to skip learning
20:19 BTtoArch  how is that a rare bird?
20:19 BTtoArch  nearly everyone I know can program in like 5
20:19 BTtoArch  at least
20:20 VanessaE  BTtoArch: because in this case it's about women who program, and in more than one language.
20:20 BTtoArch  oh
20:20 VanessaE  it's rare enough to find female programmers, even moreso who can grok more than one language
20:21 BTtoArch  and I wonder why
20:22 celeron55 i sometimes find it very mind-blowing to think about stuff after working a lot in this team working style of mine, where nobody knows anything about anyone 8)
20:23 VanessaE  haha
20:23 VanessaE  that
20:23 VanessaE  that's what general chitchat is for :-)
20:23 celeron55 like with kahrl; "oh yeah, i'm just still merging these patches this guy i don't know anything about wrote with me half a year ago"
20:24 celeron55 nah, true programmers don't chit-chat, and text-based chit-chat doesn't really get you anywhere
20:25 celeron55 you need to be face-to-face, then it can do something good in a strange way
20:26 VanessaE  celeron55: perhaps.  Depends on each person though.
20:28 celeron55 well... as an example of that, some people are terrible at concentrating IRL but get along just fine on IRC
20:28 VanessaE  celeron55: funny you should say that - that's me all over. :-)
20:28 celeron55 you still do get to transfer subtle information that wouldn't really transfer otherwise, unless you already know each other
20:28 celeron55 +very well
20:29 VanessaE  On IRC I seem to do okay, but in real life, pfft.  I get confused just trying to get out of bed :-)
20:31 celeron55 i am very sure that if eg. we met, it would be the strangest of situations ever, anywhere
20:31 celeron55 in the history of humans
20:32 VanessaE  haha
20:32 VanessaE  no doubt :)
20:32 celeron55 i'm laughing at imagining that
20:33 celeron55 (oh yeah, core development, exactly)
20:34 celeron55 well, this is more like a 10-people-talk-to-celeron55 channel anyway, and founded to be such, so whatever
20:36 BTtoArch  lol
20:36 BTtoArch  why don't you just go on #minetest-delta too? Because then you can chit-chat there, and develop here! :P
20:37 celeron55 because i have talked about stuff i don't really want that big an audience for
20:38 celeron55 this is the "insider" channel, pretty much
20:38 celeron55 altough the people here are very random