Time Nick Message 05:25 Guest43986 has anybody tried to run minetest on raspberrypi 05:29 jyfl987 i think it might could 05:29 jyfl987 i have a ac100 smartbook, which have a tegra2 inside 05:29 jyfl987 will test if i could run minetest on it after work 05:31 jyfl987 celeron55: could a linode 512mb ram vps run minetest server? 05:41 celeron55 if it has enough CPU power, easily 05:41 celeron55 the minetest server mostly just eats CPUs like some CPU-eating monster 05:43 celeron55 jyfl987: it'll likely work fairly well, but we'll see 05:43 celeron55 on the ac100 i mean 05:44 celeron55 (the two upper lines were about linode, the two lower were about ac100 :P) 05:44 jyfl987 celeron55: well i was thought that server would eat much more RAM 05:44 celeron55 it doesn't use much memory at all 05:45 jyfl987 celeron55: and i found that when clients network laag, like i am in china , and yesterday i connect to redcrab's server on amazon ec2 05:45 celeron55 i don't think it ever goes above 200M, barely 100 05:45 jyfl987 celeron55: i can see the block load and unload 05:45 jyfl987 celeron55: that's good 05:46 jyfl987 celeron55: i mean why not trigger the block load just before player enter to the block next to border? 05:46 celeron55 about the laptop with the tegra2 chip: it's GPU seems to be some OpenGL ES thing 05:46 celeron55 i have no idea what that means in terms of minetest and irrlicht 05:47 celeron55 i guess it can do regular opengl too with possibly the drivers doing the wrapping 05:47 jyfl987 yep, i can use SDL on that machine 05:47 jyfl987 so i think maybe irrlicht could work with opengl es 05:47 celeron55 ehm... SDL is mostly a software-only library 05:48 celeron55 minetest requires some actual 3D HW acceleration to work reasonably 05:48 jyfl987 sdl could use any possible hardware optimization 05:48 jyfl987 just use soft impl when it couldnt found the match library support 06:07 MiJyn lol yeah 06:08 MiJyn it'd be quite hard to write the 3D stuff though 06:08 MiJyn all kinds of raytracing 06:09 jyfl987 and the light system seems has bug 06:09 jyfl987 if you head downside, and quickly head upside, you'll found the light toggling 06:09 jyfl987 but in physic world, it should dont have differences 06:23 VanessaE that does raise a question - why DOES the game do that anyway? 06:28 jyfl987 when i head downsize, the light change which let me thought it turn to night 06:29 VanessaE yes, I've seen that effect 06:29 VanessaE oh well, I always assumed it was deliberate 06:29 jyfl987 VanessaE: and the block chunk loading effect, have you saw that? 06:29 VanessaE you mean where blocks change from dark <-> light if you suddenly spin around 06:29 VanessaE kinda randomly I mean 06:30 jyfl987 VanessaE: nope, i mean the loading 06:31 jyfl987 VanessaE: when you enter a border chunk, it will load the neighbor chunk on the forward 06:31 jyfl987 so you could see one chunk loaded while another chunk not load 06:31 VanessaE oops 06:32 VanessaE I'm not sure I understand what you mean though 06:32 VanessaE no matter, I'm too tired to really grasp it now. Good night. 06:32 VanessaE :-) 06:33 * VanessaE wanders off to bed 06:34 jyfl987 VanessaE: ok i'll gave a screenshot when i met that 06:36 celeron55 the light changes that way to make large caves dark on shorter rendering rnages 06:36 celeron55 ranges* 06:36 celeron55 or if world data hasn't been loaded yet 06:37 celeron55 it sometimes looks a bit silly, but it's kind of hard to guess what the background should look like 06:37 celeron55 minecraft does it even worse 06:38 celeron55 if you go in the shade of a tree, the sky turns darker 06:38 celeron55 at least when i last played it 06:40 celeron55 minetest basically tries to determine if you might see the sky through anywhere through the rendering limit where you're looking at, and if so, it'll make it look like sky; otherwise it will make it look like the background of a cave at the guessed light level 06:43 jyfl987 celeron55: what time do you last play minecraft? 06:43 celeron55 the algorithm in minetest is 100% independent on any map generator properties or anything, it's solely based on the downloaded world data as is 06:44 celeron55 jyfl987: dunno, at least roughly at the end of beta 06:44 jyfl987 celeron55: how about re-playing that to got a new experiences? 06:44 celeron55 altough i don't remember if it had that then 06:45 jyfl987 i didnt found minecraft has that problem , maybe i play the new version 06:45 celeron55 minecraft stopped working on my laptop sometime when it became beta 06:45 jyfl987 it might be the memory stuff :] 06:46 jyfl987 celeron55: and does minetest support to use minecraft's texure? 06:46 celeron55 i enjoyed it most a at the end times of alpha, after the summer of 2010 06:46 celeron55 and then i started minetest 06:46 jyfl987 there's so many good looking 3rd party texture for mc 06:46 Calinou jyfl987, he didn't even buy the game, iirc 06:46 celeron55 i have bought minecraft 06:46 jyfl987 Calinou: i didnt eigher 06:46 Calinou ah 06:46 celeron55 but didn't buy it back then 06:46 jyfl987 Calinou: i am a chinese, so you could guess 06:47 jyfl987 i was thinking if we could use the anti-alias tech to make the world looks more smooth? 06:48 celeron55 i bought it with donation money some time after it became beta as a thanks for the inspiration and the week of fun gaming 06:48 Calinou let's also use quantum computing to generate the world too 06:48 Calinou jyfl987, you mean, having a non-cube world? just no 06:48 Calinou having any kind of non-cube world is probably impossible - what when you want to build/mine? 06:49 celeron55 being all cubes is the point of minetest; nobody needs to worry or should wait for that to change 06:49 jyfl987 Calinou: nope just make some block looks more smooth 06:49 jyfl987 Calinou: its the looking effects 06:52 Calinou won't that slow the game down? 06:52 Calinou smoothing the blocks was proposed a while ago 06:52 celeron55 jyfl987: what kind of smoothing you are talking about; that isn't clear at all from what you've said 07:01 jyfl987 celeron55: the mountain look 07:01 jyfl987 celeron55: and the tree 17:46 jyf1987 just bought a linode vps and setup a minetest server celeron55 17:56 jyf1987 VanessaE: remember the loading problem? i just got two screnshot http://imgur.com/a/XOVNB cc celeron55 17:58 VanessaE I don't remember the content of that conversation actually. What was he trying to point out in these images?