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IRC log for #luanti, 2025-02-27

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01:49 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> @vejou sure, just bridge your own in-game chat to this IRC channel :P
01:49 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> just don't be surprised if Libera bans it for flooding
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08:52 pgimeno @vejou there's an IRC mod
09:07 MTDiscord <zeminori> Come to irc.edgy1.net for such thingy 😆
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09:38 dibesfer hey guys im writing a luanti guide, it includes a tutorial on how to create a game from scratch
09:38 dibesfer https://info.dibesfer.com/games/luanti/
09:38 dibesfer all feedback is welcome
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11:32 MinetestBot [git] kno10 -> luanti-org/luanti: Note that `core.hash_node_position` is not a hash function 58ad604 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/58ad604a4bf96836fd9ea2342c6cb075681e7cab (2025-02-27T11:30:55Z)
11:32 MinetestBot [git] appgurueu -> luanti-org/luanti: Add test for matrix4::getRotationDegrees 0e86366 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/0e8636632478607829a070adc7ba3cff32eb5815 (2025-02-27T11:31:04Z)
11:32 MinetestBot [git] appgurueu -> luanti-org/luanti: Add quaternion conversion unit tests 3ae1fd4 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/3ae1fd459abada44f42b6669e3a7d98e05d682f5 (2025-02-27T11:31:04Z)
11:32 MinetestBot [git] appgurueu -> luanti-org/luanti: Extend quaternion tests 1ceeea3 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/1ceeea34f442d367af9b3357a50e3923a85b7813 (2025-02-27T11:31:04Z)
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17:13 Guest46 Hi can anyone tell me if Luanti is compatible with x360 11MK G3 EE Chromebook nebooks?
17:15 Guest46 It does say no eligible devices for app install through the google App Store. So I am assuming that it might be a hardwire compatiblity issue.
17:15 ireallyhateirc from what I can see by a quick google it uses an Intel Celeron core
17:16 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> luanti provides both x86 and x86_64 native libraries for the android version, so if there is something making it incompatible it is likely out of our control
17:16 ireallyhateirc I guess it's just Chromebooks being dystopian
17:17 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (well, if it's an x86 chromebook and you personally own it, you can always flash coreboot onto it and install a proper linux distro 8)
17:19 celeron55 download the x86 (or x86_64, i don't know) apk from here and see if you can install it from the file https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/releases
17:19 Guest46 It’s for an educational set up! I was leaning on the processor may be being the issue
17:19 celeron55 (there's always a small chance google play just doesn't figure out the compatibility correctly)
17:20 celeron55 wait, is that even an android device
17:20 Guest46 If I wanted to do it through Google Play.
17:20 Guest46 Chromebook’s can download from Google play as long as it’s compatible
17:21 ireallyhateirc it uses ChromeOS ?
17:21 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> celeron55: chromebooks contain an android environment, yes
17:21 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> sideloading is not as easy as on regular android devices though unfortunately, so the app needs to be published and installable through play for normal usage
17:21 ireallyhateirc Oh man, sounds like nightmare "Refresh the devices you already own at no cost with a modern, cloud-based operating system that’s secure and easy to manage."
17:22 celeron55 i would never recommend a device with ChromeOS for anything
17:22 celeron55 even windows is a better idea. heck, maybe even an apple device
17:22 ireallyhateirc translating it from corporate to human: "turn your perfectly fine computer into a locked down Google botnet terminal"
17:23 Guest46 Agreed! Unfortunately that seems like the only option in the educational setting is using chromebooks. They also want to avoid going the Linux route.
17:24 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yeah giving students crostini access is kinda opening pandora's box there
17:25 celeron55 there's the fork of luanti that runs in a web browser, of course. but it's not made by us, you'll have to find support for it elsewhere. and it seems to be abandoned
17:29 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> would have hoped to see the web port be upstreamed before it bitrots into the void, but alas
17:30 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> there are also some external moving parts associated with the web port such as a web proxy to tunnel UDP traffic for multiplayer, since you can't do fun arbitrary network sockets through a web browser
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17:38 mikewilzn I know Guest46 said this is for education, so unlikely they can move away from ChromeOS, but just wanted to mention many Chromebooks can actually be flashed with vanilla coreboot and then can run Linux or whatever, ironically making them one of the more "free" devices you can use. https://docs.mrchromebox.tech/
17:43 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> it's quite nifty
17:43 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I still have the chromebook which I had during school (I could keep it after graduating), which I flashed coreboot onto last year: https://voxelmanip.se/2024/09/02/turning-a-chromebook-into-a-chrultrabook/
17:56 ireallyhateirc being cheap and corebootable is their only advantage
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18:34 mikewilzn Yeah mine was literally like $25 on eBay lol
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19:25 [ ireallyhateirc: the advantage over old thinkpads is lower power usage/longer battery life (and lighter weight)
19:26 ireallyhateirc thinkpads are better in combat though
19:26 lemonzest ThiccPad
19:31 mikewilzn Thinkpad gang
19:31 mikewilzn Typing this from an X220
19:32 MTDiscord <vejou> it would be pretty sick if minetest for the web was taken on by the main project
19:32 MTDiscord <vejou> the same person also was working on minetest vr
19:33 MTDiscord <vejou> one of the easiest ways to introduce yourself to minetest is the web version
19:39 ireallyhateirc you'd need volunteers for that, I'd rather want to see some nasty mapgen bugs fixed
19:40 lemonzest mikewilzn: I have a X270 and T470 :)
19:43 lemonzest with no shadows and everyting else turned on (bloom/volumetric lighting etc) I still get 40s-50s fps
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21:17 Oblomov old thinkpads maybe
21:17 Oblomov new ones are crap
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