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| 00:32 |
cheapie |
ireallyhateirc: That sounds like a good thing, though? |
| 00:32 |
ireallyhateirc |
yeah it's a feature |
| 00:33 |
cheapie |
A while back we changed the minimum protocol version on VE-Creative to not allow clients older than 5.7 (IIRC Multicrap is based on 5.4 or something), it's been so much calmer there now. |
| 00:33 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> comments can be made on the class of player multicraft brings, i just wish they would rebase there engine version tbh |
| 00:34 |
cheapie |
If they do, then I hope they provide some other way to detect it. |
| 00:34 |
ireallyhateirc |
wsor4035, it's up to them to maintain their client? why do you even care if it's rebased or not? |
| 00:35 |
ireallyhateirc |
unless you use it yourself for whatever insane reason :D |
| 00:35 |
cheapie |
I would assume the rebase comment is because it's a mess when presented with [png or paramtype2="4dir", and it confuses players to no end |
| 00:35 |
cheapie |
These are from 5.5 and 5.7 respectively, IIRC |
| 00:36 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i dont use it. but mainly because its outdated, so mods less and less will support it, complaints as cheapie said, etc |
| 00:36 |
cheapie |
For [png I can see why it has problems if it doesn't support that, but for paramtype2="4dir" I'm not entirely sure why the server doesn't just detect it's an old client and pretend it's facedir instead. |
| 00:37 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> its 5.4+few cherry picked things here and there |
| 00:38 |
cheapie |
There might be more, but those are the two big things that come to mind, they meant that Multicrap players on VE-C were usually met by nonstop error spew and nodes rotated wrong. |
| 00:38 |
cheapie |
That and I swear like half of the users of it can't follow instructions and 95% of the rest grief and/or spam. |
| 00:39 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i mean, iirc its user agent is multicraft? |
| 00:39 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> cheapie: pretend it's facedir can't work with color4dir though |
| 00:39 |
ireallyhateirc |
on our servers it was mostly players asking to give them stuff and not knowing how to play |
| 00:39 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> you have to patch your engine to see that info in lua api since the engine is stupid af, but servers should have that patch anyways |
| 00:39 |
cheapie |
luatic: Sure. But this is regular 4dir. |
| 00:40 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> technically it probably can't work with 4dir either actually since modders are free to use those other bits. though you could now start working around it by sending different param2s to different clients... |
| 00:41 |
cheapie |
That's about what I had in mind, yeah - tell the old clients it's facedir and make up a new param2 that gives the rotation it should be. |
| 00:41 |
ireallyhateirc |
btw I watched a video on youtube that tested multiple "Minecraft knockoffs" (on iPad) and Multicraft was the top one |
| 00:44 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> its possible #15451 might go somewhere |
| 00:45 |
ireallyhateirc |
what's Crapple store's policy on GPL ? |
| 00:45 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> *lgpl |
| 00:46 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> also depends who you ask on that one |
| 00:46 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> some say yes, other say no |
| 00:46 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i dont feel like hashing that out, do your own searching. |
| 00:48 |
ireallyhateirc |
I heard from a friend that apple store also has paid Krita idk like 20$ ? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> krita is usually paid in stores, but also then freely avialable from there site |
| 00:49 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> its on steam, microsoft store for sale as far as i know |
| 00:50 |
ireallyhateirc |
that's true but Appstore has monopoly on idevices |
| 00:50 |
ireallyhateirc |
though that's fair if the cash goes to Krita foundation |
| 00:52 |
ireallyhateirc |
hmmm turns out it's for Mac only? Though I believe desktop apps can be used on mobile ithings too. |
| 00:52 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> no, its the other way around |
| 00:52 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> (run ios apps on macos) |
| 00:53 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> https://support.apple.com/guide/app-store/iphone-ipad-apps-mac-apple-silicon-fird2c7092da/mac |
| 00:53 |
ireallyhateirc |
well anyway, hope that license won't stop the iOS port of Luanti |
| 00:54 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> anyways, there is altstore or whatever it was where you sign the apps in dev mode every so many days, or the stores in the eu |
| 00:57 |
ireallyhateirc |
and even if luanti lands on iOS I doubt it will be more popular than Multicraft |
| 00:57 |
ireallyhateirc |
because Luanti doesn't get advertised as the ultimate Minecraft knockoff |
| 01:19 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> crita is on the mac app store and not available for iOS |
| 01:19 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> *krita |
| 01:20 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> https://old.reddit.com/r/krita/comments/rzhjb3/is_there_any_chance_of_getting_krita_for_ipad/ |
| 01:20 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> MisterE: it looks like this bridge is one-way at the moment, is the bot muted, in the wrong channel, something else? |
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| 01:21 |
Blockhead256 |
krita is on the mac app store and not available for iOS |
| 01:21 |
Blockhead256 |
https://old.reddit.com/r/krita/comments/rzhjb3/is_there_any_chance_of_getting_krita_for_ipad/ |
| 01:21 |
Blockhead256 |
as noted, no OpenGL and GPL makes it impossible |
| 01:22 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> but luanti is lgpl, not gpl |
| 01:23 |
Blockhead256 |
oh yeah |
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Blockhead256 |
I don't imagine we're moving to support Metal any time soon though |
| 01:23 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> see my previous comment of it depends who you ask, and me not wanting to get into any more |
| 01:24 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> ios still support ogles 2 last i checked |
| 01:25 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> anyways, see the linked pr above |
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SFENCE_arch |
We do not have to support Metal. We only have to support Google ANGLE. http://angleproject.org/ |
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[MatrxMT] |
<MisterE> sometimes the bot gets moderated on the irc side I think |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> well it's two way now |
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MTDiscord |
<ruslan1> is homthack here |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> maybe not, but leroy was |
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ireallyhateirc |
Is the footstep sound play interval hardcoded? |
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Krock |
ireallyhateirc: afaik it's played once per meter or node |
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bdju |
is there a way in the UI to delete a Game or do I have to do it at the filesystem level? |
| 22:36 |
bdju |
I have Crafter Alpha 0.07 and I think it was abandoned |
| 22:37 |
bdju |
I see for stuff like MeseCraft I can find it on the same screen you install new Games from and then hit uninstall, but I'm thinking Crafter isn't on the list |
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rubenwardy |
uninstall in the content tab |
| 22:39 |
bdju |
ahh nice. thank you |
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ireallyhateirc |
my intrusive thoughts tell me to implement a Dead by daylight clone in Luanti |
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