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02:20 perrier I used to play mineclone.
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04:20 MTDiscord <s​rinivas> is it possible to alias a modname
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07:09 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Remove unused functions reported by cppcheck (#10463) f46509d https://git.io/JUFRh (2020-10-05T07:07:33Z)
07:30 luk3yx jas_: Have you considered using a lua-based SSCSM implementation (such as https://github.com/GreenXenith/sscsm_ssm or https://github.com/luk3yx/minetest-sscsm) for your mods instead of distributing a separate CSM for each one?
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09:59 jas_ oh, no, i hadn't.  thanks, i'll look into it! :D
10:00 jas_ (i did combine them into a single CSM mod, and started distributing with the game itself, anyway: https://github.com/jamesalexanderstevenson/jastest/tree/master/jastest_csm )
10:01 jas_ but uhh, yeah, i'll check out these two links you've shared -- thanks again
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10:30 Miniontoby hey
10:30 Miniontoby I wana have some help
10:31 Miniontoby check https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=22339&amp;p=381791#p381791
10:32 Miniontoby I wana make an door which is controlable with an doorbell from anywhere
10:35 Miniontoby !up minetest.orange.ircnow.org
10:35 MinetestBot minetest.orange.ircnow.org:30000 is up (172ms) (IPv4)
10:35 Miniontoby !up minetest.orange.ircnow.org:30001
10:35 MinetestBot minetest.orange.ircnow.org:30001 is up (171ms) (IPv4)
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10:37 jas_ MinetestBot: do local door = doors.get(pos) and then door:open(player) and door:close(player)
10:37 jas_ oops, that was for Miniontoby
10:38 Miniontoby ok
10:38 Miniontoby but I wana make a special door
10:38 jas_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/game_api.txt#L192
10:38 Miniontoby sorry
10:38 Miniontoby I cant open that
10:39 Miniontoby school blocks it
10:39 Miniontoby github = it
10:39 jas_ do you have the repo?
10:39 jas_ the directory is the repo
10:39 jas_ so as long as you have minetest_game somewhere, you have game_api.txt
10:39 Miniontoby minetest game
10:39 Miniontoby yes
10:39 Miniontoby ok
10:39 jas_ read that, it will tell you how to make a custom door, and how to use the doors API
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10:39 jas_ welcome back
10:39 Miniontoby I wanted to be conected from NL
10:40 Miniontoby not fr
10:40 Miniontoby verne.freenode.net
10:40 Miniontoby this one
10:40 jas_ ok
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10:40 Miniontoby its mine
10:40 jas_ kinda picky, but
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10:40 Miniontoby I will see
10:42 Miniontoby I wana register my own locked door which is only openable with doorbell or owner
10:42 jas_ check out mechanisms.lua in xdecor
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10:43 jas_ but if you make a locked door, it will operate like a steel door for example, and then just register the doorbell to only work with that one door?
10:43 Miniontoby ye
10:43 Miniontoby pleas echeck the url
10:43 Miniontoby check https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=22339&amp;p=381791#p381791
10:44 jas_ so in the doorbell, have it check for doors:miniontoby_door and doors:open(miniontoby) if present?
10:44 Miniontoby ok
10:45 Miniontoby at the forum link there are the points I wana use
10:45 Miniontoby which I need an formspec for
10:45 Miniontoby whcih does functions
10:46 Miniontoby https://ca.xeroxirc.net/formspec-editor/
10:46 jas_ the formspec will send fields, then minetest.register_on_player_receive_fields will do the functions
10:46 Miniontoby this can I use to create
10:46 Miniontoby ok
10:46 jas_ i can't open that
10:46 Miniontoby I also not
10:46 Miniontoby I think its down
10:46 jas_ i was joking at first
10:46 Miniontoby !title https://ca.xeroxirc.net/formspec-editor/
10:46 jas_ heh
10:46 Miniontoby !title https://ca.xeroxirc.net/formspec-editor/
10:47 MinetestBot urllib.error.URLError: <urlopen error timed out> (file "/usr/lib/python3.6/urllib/request.py", line 1327, in do_open)
10:47 MinetestBot urllib.error.URLError: <urlopen error timed out> (file "/usr/lib/python3.6/urllib/request.py", line 1327, in do_open)
10:47 Miniontoby hmmm
10:47 Miniontoby ERR_CONNECTION_RESET
10:47 Miniontoby it doesnt work
10:48 Miniontoby https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&amp;t=15236
10:48 jas_ size[8,8]button[0,0;2,1;db_id;Ring Doorbell => if fields.db_id then doors:open(player)
10:48 Miniontoby no
10:48 Miniontoby it need to be settings
10:48 Miniontoby like:
10:49 Miniontoby open door on ring, open door on cmd, open door only by owner
10:49 jas_ oh like checkboxes?  to determine behavior of doorbell?
10:49 Miniontoby I will need to get learning
10:49 Miniontoby yes
10:49 Miniontoby but then 1 choise
10:49 Miniontoby but then 1 choice
10:49 Miniontoby btw what language do you speak
10:49 jas_ oh i see, then perhaps a dropdown[] is better than multiple checkboxes[]
10:49 jas_ idk
10:49 jas_ i only know english, sorry
10:50 Miniontoby ok
10:50 Miniontoby I can speak Dutch
10:50 jas_ that is cool
10:50 Miniontoby yes
10:50 jas_ what other languages do you know?
10:50 Miniontoby I can transalte
10:50 Miniontoby Im rn at school at French
10:50 Miniontoby and I learn German
10:50 jas_ so englush, french, german, and dutch?!  TRE MAGNIFIQUE (or something)
10:51 Miniontoby let me check rubenwardys modding book
10:51 Miniontoby https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/players/formspecs.html
10:52 Miniontoby I see
10:52 jas_ you know, you can do formspecs in different places, including in the node itself.  you can register the doorbell with its own builtin formspec, and builtin on_receive_fields
10:52 Miniontoby after
10:52 Miniontoby Node Meta Formspecs
10:52 Miniontoby ye
10:52 jas_ so i see two main options, yes: Node Meta Data, or not
10:52 Miniontoby ok
10:52 jas_ i think in your case with the doorbell the formspec and receive_fields should be inside the node definition
10:52 jas_ and then perhaps set its state using metadata:set_int, etc
10:53 Miniontoby ok
10:53 Miniontoby btw I need to inplement translating just before I start with this
10:53 jas_ local S = minetest.get_translator("mymodname")
10:53 jas_ then S("text") whereever
10:53 jas_ and then i think you make a locale directory and populate it, but i dunno
10:54 Miniontoby ik
10:54 jas_ ok
10:54 Miniontoby I got more than 1k downloads
10:54 jas_ nice!
10:55 Miniontoby yes
10:55 jas_ now, if you want to interact with the doorbell from somewhere away from the node, like from a command or IRC, then you'll have to account for all the in-game doorbells... ?
10:56 Miniontoby ik
10:56 jas_ perhaps handle all the stuff inside the node itself, and once its setup properly and activated, it registers itself in the DoorbellDatabase
10:56 jas_ oh ok
10:56 Miniontoby Cool
10:56 jas_ just braindstorming here, let us know when you get further and show us :D
10:56 Miniontoby I dont know how to use sqlite
10:56 Miniontoby so I will not use that
10:56 jas_ well, we can use simple key=value stuff in lua tables
10:56 jas_ that qualifies as a "database," though i was using the term loosely
10:57 Miniontoby ok
10:57 Miniontoby ye
10:57 Miniontoby do you know how to use Got
10:57 Miniontoby I got GOT
10:57 Miniontoby (game of trees)
10:57 jas_ no i dunno it, do you mean Git?  no, i dunno GOT
10:58 Miniontoby for hosting
10:58 jas_ game of trees, hehe no is that a minetest game?
10:58 Miniontoby not git
10:58 Miniontoby No
10:58 jas_ oh no, i never heard of it.
10:58 Miniontoby openbsd
10:58 Miniontoby packages
10:58 Miniontoby package
10:58 jas_ oh cool!  a zero, a one, a one zero one one!
10:58 Miniontoby I got an openbsd
10:58 Miniontoby vps
10:58 jas_ i love openbsd
10:58 jas_ i use to get them in the mail
10:58 Miniontoby minetest.orange.ircnow.org
10:58 jas_ they came with musics, prolly still do?
10:58 Miniontoby is on an openbsd
10:59 jas_ each release had a theme song
10:59 Miniontoby I got only known linux (raspberry pi) before
10:59 jas_ i got that pf book too, what a trip
10:59 Miniontoby now I kinda know
10:59 Miniontoby how unix works
10:59 jas_ but i'm back on debian because it's easy and nice to me
10:59 jas_ so much to learn!  lots of fun... what do you like to do in france?
11:00 Miniontoby idk
11:00 Miniontoby I like German more than French
11:00 jas_ what do you like to do in germany?
11:00 Miniontoby idk
11:01 jas_ so cool, good for you i wish you the very best
11:01 Miniontoby but the language is like Durch
11:01 jas_ in your studies and travels
11:01 Miniontoby but the language is like Dutch
11:01 jas_ oh i see
11:01 jas_ i took a german language class once but i didn't retain anything
11:01 Miniontoby btw im making my mtserverrequest site useing sqlite in stead of mysql
11:01 Miniontoby its soooo much more difficult
11:02 jas_ yeah sqlite3 made my head hurt and i don't want to ever go back there
11:02 jas_ i really wanna learn blender tho
11:02 Miniontoby ye
11:02 Miniontoby I use paint3D
11:02 Miniontoby for 3d models
11:02 Miniontoby or something on the web
11:03 jas_ i wanna modify the 3d_armor model and add a crouch, and a detachable backpack
11:03 Miniontoby for nodeboxes I use the nodebox editor
11:03 jas_ that program is really great, i used it before, to make the backpack model actually
11:04 Miniontoby I got an node which gots an hole in every middle of the sides
11:04 jas_ but if there was one thing i would want to learn, it'd be C++ and the quake code, and work on the physics in minetest.  it's my dream to strafejump in minetest
11:04 Miniontoby with a mod I am able to get small enoguh
11:04 jas_ oh yeah, that change for collisionboxes is great!  i can sneak under 1-node high holes too, it's really fun
11:04 Miniontoby c++ i am leanring yeah, I got a start of an per game menu
11:06 jas_ don't hesitate to ask if you need more help with the doorbell
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11:06 Miniontoby just with json
11:07 Miniontoby https://miniontoby.us5.ircnow.org/my.domain/forum/main_forum.php
11:07 Miniontoby dont use it rn
11:07 Miniontoby ok
11:09 Miniontoby I got my own irc
11:10 Miniontoby https://miniontoby.us5.ircnow.org/my.domain/tooltip.html
11:10 Miniontoby check the tooltips
11:10 Miniontoby https://miniontoby.us5.ircnow.org/my.domain/misc/
11:10 Miniontoby this is also cool
11:10 Miniontoby https://miniontoby.us5.ircnow.org/my.domain/misc/connect-four.html is really difficult
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11:25 Miniontoby hmm
11:26 jas_ !mod
11:26 MinetestBot jas_: Hidden Doors [hidden_doors] by Hamlet - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=18294 - https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game
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11:30 Minionto Miniontoby:
11:30 Miniontoby yes
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12:10 jas_ !server
12:10 MinetestBot jas_: Steamworks [0.4 OR 5.0+] | steam.edgy1.net:48016 | Clients: 0/15, 0/2 | Version: 2.0.0-dev / survivalworks-basic | Ping: 97ms
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15:14 fmlatghor Is anyone here an admin on multicraft? I lost my password.
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15:30 perrier I have a question. What mod makes it so you can use steel rods to make pickaxes?
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15:55 Emerald2 Hmmm that mod sounds familiar...
16:05 Emerald2 All my brain is coming up with is the tools from when I played civtest, bah.
16:05 Emerald2 Still digging around though.
16:08 Emerald2 perrier:  do you remember any more details about the mod?
16:14 perrier Not really I just seem to remember making axes with rods on a server.
16:14 perrier Maybe I'm imagining things.
16:21 Emerald2 It kinda reminds me of xtraores or a mod like that.
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16:24 Emerald2 Looks like that uses sticks though... sorry I'm out of ideas now.
16:25 perrier no problem
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16:35 perrier I'll look at xtraores.
16:37 perrier Still need sticks for mese torches so I can't eliminate wood entirely anyway.
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17:03 Emerald2 Not unless you change crafting recipes, anyway.
17:21 perrier Well if I can make my own recipes I might as well just use creative.
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17:47 perrier I just struck granite and I installed technic so I think that's the one.
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17:50 perrier Ocean stone is actually one of the prettiest types of stone in the game.
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17:52 specing perrier: yes, it's quite pretty
17:52 specing perrier: which mod is it from?
17:58 perrier Maybe xocean
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17:58 perrier Or more coral
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18:53 perrier Do you eat the goblin's mushrooms?
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19:04 rndd hi everyone! is there way to run minetest remotely and stream gameplay on local laptop?
19:05 Krock remote control software
19:05 Krock dunno about any "game straming" that works with Minetest
19:06 Krock rndd: perhaps this? https://parsecgaming.com/
19:07 rndd Krock, hmmmmm. any foss alternative?
19:07 Krock dunno. I barely heard aobut parsec
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22:39 MTDiscord <s​rinivas> also if the server is windoze, maybe rdp
22:39 MTDiscord <s​rinivas> but agian, not foss
22:39 MTDiscord <s​rinivas> vns is your foss alternative
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