Time  Nick        Message
02:05 pevernow    I'm going to build a content DB mirror in China
02:07 rubenwardy  good luck
02:07 rubenwardy  easiest way would be to use nginx
02:07 rubenwardy  use a proxy and a proxy cache
02:07 rubenwardy  make the uploads have a super high timeout, and cache to disk
02:08 rubenwardy  you can even preload the cache using a script
02:08 rubenwardy  just make sure to proxy redirect rewrite to not bypass the cache
02:10 pevernow    That 's a good ideaBut does contentdb provide synchronization scheme with other contentdb?
02:13 rubenwardy  there's only one contentdb
02:13 rubenwardy  uploads are guaranteed to be uniquely named
02:13 rubenwardy  the API can be cached short-term
02:13 rubenwardy  ContentDB does not provide a facility to download everything
02:14 rubenwardy  you'll be ratelimited if you try to do that
02:15 pevernow    I think I'll have to try nginx proxy first.
02:15 pevernow    Thanks for your help
13:33 MTDiscord   <10K​ajūto> Hey
13:46 MTDiscord   <10H​exBubble> Hey, Do you need anyhelp?
14:08 dievri      Hello. Is settings from mod.conf already accessible after mod loaded, or I should manually load lite mod_settings = Settings("mod.conf") and after that just user mod_settings?
14:08 rubenwardy  yes, you'll need to use Settings()
14:08 rubenwardy  make sure to include   get_modpath
14:09 dievri      rubenwardy, thanks!
14:20 MTDiscord   <04o​neplustwo> why is it you can float on air if you crouch on a block then break that block and continue holding shift?
14:21 sfan5       you can't
14:27 MTDiscord   <04o​neplustwo> you can
14:29 sfan5       I don't know about your settings or client source but I just opened a minetest game world and what your describe wasn't possible
14:31 MTDiscord   <04o​neplustwo> you literally hold shift, and break the block underneath you
14:32 MTDiscord   <11J​onathon> what game?
14:32 sfan5       I literally hold shift and break the node undearneath me, consequently I fall down
14:40 specing     it's possible, but you have to be still partially standing on the neighboring block
14:46 rubenwardy  what Minetest version? This used to happen in 0.4
14:48 MTDiscord   <04o​neplustwo> 5.3
15:19 jas_        specing: indeed you are correct
15:22 specing     Oh, I've always wondered... why the strange numbers for world limits?
15:22 specing     why 30912 or so, and not 2**15?
15:25 MTDiscord   <12W​arr1024> Probably safety margin
15:25 MTDiscord   <12W​arr1024> The closer you get to the actual limit, the more risk there is of being able to try to see into it, or having a really fast entity sort of "quantum tunnel" into that space, and it could cause weird bugs to shake out
15:26 MTDiscord   <12W​arr1024> The limit is 31000 in all directions, but I think the way it works a mapblock (or even mapchunk) needs to be within that limit to get generated.
15:26 MTDiscord   <12W​arr1024> Mapchunk alignment is ... weird.
15:27 MTDiscord   <12W​arr1024> I tried to make a mod to calculate what the ACTUAL map generation limits would be given the configuration, ran into all kinds of weird cases with very small limits, and ended up giving up and leaving it broken for now.
15:34 specing     so, why is the limit 31000 and not 32768
15:34 specing     it's a large gap
15:34 specing     also, why is the limit 31000 and not 2**31?
15:40 MTDiscord   <12W​arr1024> large gap is because they wanted a large safety margin
15:41 MTDiscord   <12W​arr1024> 31k instead of 2G because that's the size of the integers they used for node coords
15:41 MTDiscord   <12W​arr1024> probably due to either irrlicht internal limitations or concerns about storage space
15:41 MTDiscord   <12W​arr1024> either way, there has been a lot of talk about raising the limits but nobody is actually doing the work necessary
15:42 MTDiscord   <12W​arr1024> which, btw, is theorized to be quite a lot.
15:43 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Wuzzy2 -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Add icons for invisible nodes (#2718) 136605724 https://git.io/JUDQN (152020-09-30T15:41:04Z)
15:45 specing     About storage: how much of the storage is consumed by chunks that were explored once and then noone returned to them?
15:45 specing     could probably save a lot of chunks that were unvisited for months were just pruned away
15:45 specing     could probably save a lot of space by removing* chunks that were unvisited for months were just pruned away
15:45 specing     ugh that sentence
15:45 specing     let's try again
15:46 specing     could probably save a lot of space by removing chunks that were unvisited for months
15:47 MTDiscord   <12W​arr1024> I actually have a mod that collects per-mapblock statistics, including stuff like how many times players have dug/placed nodes in them.  The original idea was to be able to prune such mapblocks.  I just never got around to doing the work on the pruning part.
16:05 specing     W​arr1024 can you share any interesting insights?
16:06 MTDiscord   <12W​arr1024> The main insight I've gained from it is the fact that I apparently often end up gathering a lot of data that I never make the time to analyze.
16:13 specing     :(
16:24 MTDiscord   <12W​arr1024> https://gitlab.com/sztest/szutilpack/-/tree/master/szutil_usagesurvey if you're interested.  It's also on CDB as part of szutilpack.
18:29 dievri      Hello. in mod.conf I have very long string in format key=value,value,value,value,value,value ..... an so on. How can I spread this on a multiple lines?
18:30 dievri      btw, there is also a Discord channel of minetest?
18:33 MTDiscord   <10J​ordach> https://discord.gg/6W84ytH
18:35 MTDiscord   <11d​ievri> thanks!
18:49 Krock       dievri:  setting = """
18:49 Krock       multi
18:49 Krock       line setting
18:49 Krock       """
18:49 Krock       and that's documented in lua_api.txt
18:51 Krock       though this will add newlines at the end of each line, hence ensure that it works properly in your case
18:51 rubenwardy  depends etc ignores whitespace, and just looks for commas
18:52 rubenwardy  I think that's the only comma-seperated field?
18:52 Krock       mapgen flags,"initial_give_items": "Am I a joke to you?"
18:53 Krock       also mod security (overall and HTTP-API)
18:54 rubenwardy  ahh, I was thinking of mod.conf
18:54 rubenwardy  well, they did say mod.conf
18:57 Krock       oh right
18:58 Krock       that part was already off-screen
21:21 clavi       should I change "max_packets_per_iteration" on a server, or is 1024 fine?
21:25 sfan5       how many players?
21:26 sfan5       did you get relevant warning(s) in your log?
21:27 clavi       5 players at most, but perhaps on crappy connections
21:27 clavi       had a pathological case rn with an american player on bad wifi (server is in germany)
21:27 clavi       they had "WARNING[ConnectionSend]: con(16/4) Packet quota used up for peer_id=1, was 1024 pkts" in their logs
21:28 sfan5       you don't need to increase it then
21:29 sfan5       especially not if that message pops up in the *clients* log
21:30 clavi       okay
21:30 clavi       the server itself has a fast connection, but I can't do anything about players far away on not-so-great internet
21:31 clavi       could I increase it for a LAN-only server though? and to what value?
21:31 clavi       ethernet lan that is, with at least 1 gbps
21:34 sfan5       you can theoretically increase it to a very large value in a LAN but I'm pretty sure part of the reason for the limit is also to not overwhelm clients
21:35 sfan5       (very large = 10000 or 65335 if you want, doubt it makes a difference at that point)
22:26 est31       emphasis on LAN here, wifi is different
22:26 est31       it'd just try to retransmit the same huge packet over and over
22:27 est31       wait it's numbers of packets
22:27 est31       not packet sizes