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IRC log for #minetest, 2020-09-20

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00:55 Elon_Sat0shi is the minetest murder mod sort of like among us?
00:56 Elon_Sat0shi i guess everyone knows who the murderer is though
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04:11 Kimapr[m] no, nobody knows who the murderer is in murder mod either (except the murderer of course)
04:12 Kimapr[m] it is like the "murder mystery" minigame, seen in other games, like minecraft
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09:20 LPKI_Ramen1 Hi, who can help with mapserver mod?
09:22 LPKI_Ramen My mapserver can't rendering the world. I use minetest 5.3.0 server
09:22 heavygale any error message?
09:23 LPKI_Ramen No, but rendering doesn't work.
09:23 LPKI_Ramen not all areas of the map are displayed. And also some parts of the map are displayed incorrectly
09:23 heavygale is the initial rendering finished?
09:24 LPKI_Ramen How to start initial rendering correctly, how to understand that it is correct?
09:24 heavygale it starts automatically, check the log to see if it finished
09:25 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> "not all areas of the map are displayed" - chunks which have not been generated yet can of course not be displayed
09:28 LPKI_Ramen The parcels that are already generated are not displayed, since I built my house on that parcel.
09:31 LPKI_Ramen is there a mod that can immediately generate a map of the desired size?
09:34 Krock immediately? no
09:34 Krock but you can run /emergeblocks (pos1) (pos2)
09:34 Krock see /help for details
09:35 Krock > And also some parts of the map are displayed incorrectly
09:35 Krock image?
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09:48 BuckarooBanzai LPKI_Ramen: "And also some parts of the map are displayed incorrectly" -> can you open an issue about that or report here what exactly goes wrong? thanks :)
09:59 BuckarooBanzai !tell aldenp https://github.com/minetest-mirrors/playerfactions/issues/1
09:59 MinetestBot BuckarooBanzai: I'll pass that on when aldenp is around
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11:45 LPKI_Ramen BuckarooBanzai:
11:45 LPKI_Ramen Map is works, i'm use 5.4.0minetest, maybe bug in dev version)
11:47 LPKI_Ramen Can I limit the size of the map, for example, to 5000 blocks on each side?
11:53 Krock yes you can
11:54 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L1761  <-- into your map_meta.txt file
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14:48 MTDiscord <G​enshin> Hello
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19:34 Bloodaxe Hi, this is Bloodaxe! I'm trying to set up a minetest-server on my RaspberryPi 4, with Ubuntu installed. I've installed the minetestserver-package, and I'm trying to run it. I get this response:
19:34 Bloodaxe terminate called after throwing an instance of 'FileNotGoodException'
19:34 Bloodaxe what():  Failed to open log file /var/log/minetest/minetest.log: Permission denied
19:34 Bloodaxe Aborted (core dumped)
19:35 Bloodaxe I'm not sure what it means by me not having permission? I've tried running it as root as well, but no luck.
19:37 Krock chmod 777 that file. not a good solution, but it's one
19:37 Krock never run Minetest as root. please just don't.
19:37 sfan5 aren't you supposed to be starting it with systemctl?
19:38 Bloodaxe Yeah that's what I'm trying to avoid xD I am? From what I read I should be able to launch it by just typing "minetestserver --world (world name)"
19:38 Bloodaxe but doing so produces this error message
19:39 sfan5 run it with --verbose and please pastebin the output and post the link here
19:40 Hawk777 Sounds like you’re running it as the wrong user. There’s probably a “minetest” user or something which systemd is set up to run Minetest under, and that user has permission to write to /var/log/minetest/minetest.log, but your (human) user doesn’t.
19:42 Bloodaxe in the home folder there are two users, the root user and a user I'm intending to use as host for different games as I see fit. I'm not too experienced with Linux yet, so I've probably made some basic error... I'll try that --verbose stuff, and see what happens
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19:44 Bloodaxe So what's  good practice? sending a link to one of those paste-websites, or just paste raw text here in chat?
19:44 Hawk777 Do you have a reason for wanting to avoid launching Minetest from systemd?
19:44 Hawk777 pastebin, not here
19:45 Bloodaxe https://pastebin.com/dpstfhv5 like this?
19:46 Bloodaxe no, not that I'm aware off. I was just following a random tut I found. How do I launch it from systemd?
19:46 sfan5 huh
19:47 sfan5 try systemctl start minetest-server.service
19:50 Bloodaxe well, it's running now. But I had to type my sudo-password, does that mean the server is running as root?
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19:51 MTDiscord <a​utomaton> no, iirc you need escalation to screw with systemd
19:51 Hawk777 No, that would be to make systemctl work, but systemd will run the server under its own dedicated Minetest user.
19:52 Bloodaxe aaah, ok that's cool!
19:52 Bloodaxe and to stop it I just type stop minetest-server.service?
19:53 sfan5 yea
19:54 Bloodaxe that's pretty sweet :-D Not sure how to launch a specific game + world though xD
19:54 Bloodaxe can I do systemctl start minetest-server.service --gameid mineclone2 --worldname bananaphone ?
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19:58 MTDiscord <a​utomaton> iirc no
19:58 Bloodaxe Ok, so I have to launch the server through a normal user to get those commands to work, and not through systemd?
19:59 Bloodaxe It seems like the wiki assumes you're not launching through systemd at least.
20:00 MTDiscord <a​utomaton> idk bout the second part, but the answer may lie within the .service file
20:00 Bloodaxe where can I locate the file? I just open it with nano right?
20:00 MTDiscord <a​utomaton> cat should work too
20:03 MTDiscord <a​utomaton> or just use sudo systemctl edit <the service file>.service
20:04 sfan5 the service file is at /lib/systemd/system/minetest-server.service
20:04 sfan5 or /usr/lib/systemd/system/minetest-server.service
20:05 MTDiscord <a​utomaton> oh, i see, ty
20:05 Bloodaxe I checked those folders without any luck...
20:05 Bloodaxe Weird
20:06 sfan5 well systemctl status minetest-server.service can tell you either way
20:07 Bloodaxe hmm, it tells me it's in /lib/systemd/system/minetest-server.service
20:07 Bloodaxe wth I'm 100% certain I just checked there. Well, it has to be there if it tells me so xD
20:08 Bloodaxe ok, found it! I'll try to manage from here then :-D Tnx a lot peeps!
20:09 Hawk777 I don’t use systemd myself, but my understanding is you’re really supposed to copy the file to somewhere in /etc if you want to customize it, not edit it in place.
20:09 Hawk777 I’m not sure where exactly though.
20:09 Hawk777 Otherwise when you e.g. update the Minetest package your customizations would be lost.
20:16 Hawk777 Looks like probably /etc/systemd/system/minetest-server.service would be the proper place.
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20:23 MTDiscord <a​utomaton> hm, i read somewhere that the preferred methos was systemctl edit <something>.service
20:28 Hawk777 Maybe it is. I don’t know systemd. Perhaps that does exactly what I said, makes a copy in /etc.
20:29 Hawk777 But I know just editing the file in /lib directly is not recommended.
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20:50 MTDiscord <a​utomaton> ye
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21:47 hisforever Hi I really need help MT keeps crashing. https://pastebin.com/hQzn3L8v
21:49 sfan5 aliveai has a bug
21:49 MTDiscord <G​enshin> ^this
21:50 MTDiscord <G​enshin> at line 1354 in "/home/hisforever/.minetest/mods/aliveai/aliveai/base.lua"
21:51 hisforever ok I'll just uninstall that mod thanks
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