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10:23 hisforever Hi I have 1 question. can digrton dig up grades?
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11:27 fruitsnack Hello, is there a way to force-generate a certain area of world, and also run all the abm's for some time, lbm's, etc?
11:28 fruitsnack For example, when I want to pre-generate a large area of world on a server, but it should be like the mapblocks were loaded for players, for example like with moretrees and plantlife modpacks, which spawn their stuff later
11:28 sfan5 emerge_area and forceload them for a while
11:29 sfan5 alternatively patch biome_lib to generate instantly and use only emerge_area
11:29 Krock /emerge_area, and a mod that does forceload
11:29 fruitsnack Ah, so a mod, I was hoping there's some server command maybe, ok thanks, maybe worldedit has something like that
11:29 Krock moretrees might depend on ABMs (for mapgen-placed saplings)
11:35 fruitsnack I'm also having some problems with sound_fade. It seems it always fades towards gain 1 with positive step and towards 0 with negative, it doesnt actually reach target gain
11:35 fruitsnack so it's either full gain or 0, depending if step is negative
11:44 Krock weird. I thought I tested those cases
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16:00 independent56 where can i ask questions about modding? after reading the wiki page on irc chat, i doubt that this is the place.
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16:00 rubenwardy here's correct
16:00 rubenwardy here, the forums, or discord
16:01 independent56 ah, ok. what discord server (im more comfortable wit discord, having been on it for a few years).
16:03 independent56 is the discord server listed on disboard? what are the names of the offical, or largest servers?
16:03 rubenwardy it's not official, it's still unofficial
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16:06 independent56 anyways, i have a few questions. first of all, i would like to detect a certain node in a certain radius. i also want to intergrate digilines, so heat detectors notify alarms and extinguishers that a fire as started.
16:07 independent56 firesafety is very important. thats wy im making a mod about it
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16:09 independent56 ive done countless duckduckgo searches on my two questions
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16:16 independent56 since three ne pwople have joined, potentially with answers, i will repeat my question: how can i detect a node in a certian radius, and how can i send and recve digiline messages? thank you for reading.
16:19 specing for 1) I don't know, I only know that digistuff has a camera that detects players in a certain area
16:19 specing for 2) it depends on the detector you use
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16:21 independent56 thank you. i will look through code, especially from the fire_extingusher (im not using in my mod, im amking my own)
16:27 independent56 i think i found the correct function.local nn = minetest.get_node(p).name
16:27 independent56 if nn == "fire:basic_flame" then
16:27 independent56 i will use it
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16:42 calcul0n independent56, you might want minetest.find_node_near() and find_node_in_area
16:43 calcul0n and if you don't have it already this is a must have for modding: https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/index.html
16:44 calcul0n (must have *and* must read of course :)
16:45 rubenwardy !book basic map
16:45 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Basic Map Operations - https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book//en/map/environment.html
16:45 rubenwardy is the chapter in question
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16:46 rubenwardy (the book is written such that you can read any chapter at anytime, although you may need to read earlier chapters if you don't understand something)
16:58 independent56 thank you very much
16:58 independent56 a lotof thanks, and genuine too!
16:59 independent56 anyways, i want people who will volenteer their time i making textures for my mod. if i cant find anyone, i will likely make them myself
17:02 independent56 !help
17:02 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
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17:44 independent56 where can i find out how to use digilines inside my mod, to send and recive messages?
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17:46 specing other mods
17:54 cheapie independent56: If you want a relatively simple example, take a look at lines 44-71 of this: https://cheapiesystems.com/git/digistuff/tree/timer.lua#n44
17:55 cheapie Line 47 there sends a message, and then 55-69 are a function that receives one.
17:59 independent56 the long response times wre realy worth te wait.i give you a great thanks
18:02 independent56 i really wish that they ahd commented it.
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18:29 specing independent56: all the mesecons/digiline stuff is severely underdocumented
18:30 independent56 wow. where should i help? where do i put my documentation? im willing to write, as writing in plain english is slightly easier then writing in code
18:31 independent56 specing:  there are a lot of outlets. i can write in github wiki, minetest offical wiki, a third part website, or even a book.
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18:37 specing independent56: ideally into mods that add the items that you are prepared to document
18:38 specing independent56: e.g. https://gitlab.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/-/wikis/home
18:39 specing as you can see, the autocrafter section contains no documentation on its use over digilines
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19:13 independent56 alrigt
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19:30 independent56 specing: ive decided that i wont edit a wiki, il just write a book about mesecons, digilines and pipewroks, and how to use them together
19:30 independent56 although, im not actually gonna make it until i run out of motivation for my firesafety mod
19:36 specing lol
19:36 specing just update the wiki
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19:45 independent56 i have a legal query. im using a sound that is licensed under cc4. i ahve attributed it in readme.md and credits.txt. can i still distrobute my software under a open-source license (like mit)?
20:12 specing cc4 isnt a license, is it?
20:14 independent56 i dunno, but it just says you can use it how you like, BUT only if you attribute. so i guess yes? i was just confirming, so i dont break more laws
20:14 independent56 (ive pirated software)
20:16 Krock cc-by-sa 4 is a license
20:16 Krock but cc4 alone isn't
20:16 Krock cc0 is a license
20:22 specing independent56: the creative commons has real good (human understandable) guide on what it allows you to do
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20:24 independent56 thank you
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20:29 independent56 i still cant belive i used to think that digilines was a mesecons clone.
20:35 specing hah
20:36 specing I have not used mesecons ever since I found digilines
20:36 specing (mesecons the lines I mean)
20:36 specing *wires
20:40 independent56 wow. connecting buttons directly to luacontrollers is crazy. i love using both, and ive come up with an ide for binary computing, using the mesecons wires ON and OFF states, as well as connecting luacontrollers. digilines can have as many points as you want. you can have decimary, with 10 possible states.
20:41 specing I use digilines as what they are-packet transport
20:48 independent56 it would be cool, to have a exper tlike you making a program to recive and senp packets via mesecon wires. form port a to port a, you could send morse code.
20:53 specing I use mesecons as a tool, not as a project in itself
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20:56 independent56 oh. minetest is a sandbox, so i like to play around and do crazy stuff, like building a 1000*1000 solar grid to power a single technic furnace, or burning innocent luacontrollers.
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21:12 specing yes
21:12 specing right now I'm working on a can-make-everything factory using a single furnace+pipeworks autocrafter
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22:02 nicholas hello?
22:03 nicholas i was just testing
22:03 indpendent56 great
22:05 indpendent56 can anyone reply to prove ive connected?
22:05 heavygale no :D
22:08 indpendent56 oh, then there must be something seriously wrong with my client (jk). maybe i will have to change computers
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22:17 independent56 had to resatrt my computer
22:17 independent56 it froze. 4gb of ram isnt that much, even on linux
22:19 wsor4035 does anyone happen to have a copy of advcarts? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18316
22:21 awell Sorry, not I.
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22:29 independent56 hello. i would like some general tips on increasing minetest speed
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22:36 Wuzzy turn of fancy graphics?
22:36 Wuzzy reduce render distance?
22:36 Wuzzy sorry i cant really give good tips ­čśŤ
22:38 Calinou set Undersampling to 2/3/4 in the Advanced Settings menu
22:38 Calinou (you can also edit minetest.conf and write "undersampling = 2")
22:42 independent56 thank you for trying to help. im working on a calculator, and the lag makes it painfully slow. il also disble a few mods i dont currently need
22:43 specing independent56 made a calculator out of a thousand mesecons item and wonders about lag. Lol
22:43 independent56 no, ive only made the buttons
22:43 specing ok
22:44 independent56 like, theres a buttons for the numbers and operators. i havent evn started wit scripting.
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22:53 independent56 the undersampling is making minetest look like a SAND box
22:55 specing haha
22:56 independent56 i wish that the luacontroll IDE had at least some colours to show e=wat things do. one of the best things about code is seeing a rainbow come as you type and type.
22:58 independent56 does anyone want me to send a photo of how the calculator looks as of now?
23:02 specing independent56: I develop code outside minetest and then paste it in
23:05 independent56 oh, ok. thanks for the tip
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23:06 independent56 goodnight, im shutting down my computer
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