Time Nick Message 01:13 SoylentCow -------------------------------------------------------------------- 01:14 SoylentCow is there a way to give items at spawn, on character creation? i feel like there is something i could put in .conf, but what? 01:15 SoylentCow oh nmd give_initial_stuff.... 01:16 SoylentCow thanks rubenwardy :F 01:17 SoylentCow talk about a crooked smile... 02:09 disillusion oh shit there's a lot of users in here 02:10 swift110 does anyone here play minetest on a tablet? 02:10 swift110 hey disillusion 02:10 disillusion hi! 02:10 swift110 lots of users but many are perennially idle 02:10 disillusion I've never played Minecraft but decided to try Minetest in order to try 3D city design stuff on linux. 02:10 swift110 how r u disillusion 02:11 disillusion so I ran a server just as an experiment, brought some people I know in, and they're all addicted to it. 02:12 disillusion this quarantine has made it a way for us to bond with other family, and kids seem to love it 02:12 swift110 thstd really cool disillusion 02:12 disillusion anyway, how do I find the log files for a server I'm running with the GUI, but it's running in flatpak? 02:13 Extex sfan5: oof sorry I only just saw that now... Well I don't know how groups and tools work :3 always avoided them xD 02:13 swift110 i heard of this years ago and plY IT RARELY BUT I REALLY LIKE THE EPROJECT 02:13 disillusion I started running a Mineclone 2 server and now people are addicted, but I haven't yet figured out how to run a Mineclone 2 server on its own, so need the GUI, but occasionally want to see the log files. 02:14 swift110 I was thinking of doing a server myself 02:14 disillusion I can't find the config and log files when running a server on the gui on flatpak 02:15 Lone_Wolf Not familiar with flatpak but I think you can find it if you search for a `debug.txt` file 02:15 disillusion swift110, I run a openvpn server that gets people securely connected, plus I have nextcloud server running which we all use for group voice and video chat as well as file sharing. 02:15 disillusion nextcloud now comes with built-in group video chat, all run from the browser so there's no setup for the clients 02:15 Lone_Wolf 'it' being the log file 02:16 disillusion oh this reminds me, a HUGE problem to solve: mac mouse cannot right click, thus making minetest almost unusable. If someone can fix the game so a mac mouse can right click (or keyboard alternative), that would be great. 02:17 Lone_Wolf Need more devs with a mac lol 02:17 disillusion it was a huge pain in the ass to get a mac user on the game, since I had to find a version for 10 year old mac. But then we learned there's no way to right click on a mac, so mac users can't build in minetest, only walk around and observe. 02:17 swift110 oh wow disillusion 02:17 swift110 lol 02:18 disillusion they don't feel like buying a pc mouse 02:18 swift110 oh 02:18 disillusion I wouldn't be surprised if there are others who discover this issue when running minetest on a mac 02:19 swift110 then get a radical mouse 02:19 Emerald2 Guy I'm talking to said for the mac person to doubleclick. 02:19 Lone_Wolf hah 02:19 Lone_Wolf So it uses the android setup? 02:24 disillusion people need to start making youtube videos of themselves playing minetest like the minecrafters do. 02:24 disillusion what's a good way of doing that on linux? 02:26 swift110 oh 02:26 swift110 disillusion, they do 02:26 swift110 richard jeffries on youtube 02:27 disillusion I mean with people doing something in the game for the first time and people total goofballs 02:27 disillusion I should have been recording some of these people. It's basically a lot like the goofballs on minecraft, but I don't think people know you can have just as much fun on the free stuff as you can on Minecraft. 02:28 disillusion the current youtube vids of minetest are usually just one person explaining the game and maybe showing some stuff, but not showing a group getting crazy and having fun. 02:29 swift110 oh 02:29 swift110 why dont you be that person then 02:29 disillusion lol anyone can try it by talking some people into playing the game, and if they're over 21 convincing them to drink alcohol while playing, and just record what everyone's doing. 02:30 swift110 lol 02:30 swift110 i would do it but dont need alcohol 03:22 osprey_ Greetings 03:24 SoylentCow 3Moooooooo!!!! 03:28 Extex Oof no 03:28 Extex Osprey left :/ 03:37 swift110 hey os 03:37 swift110 hey Extex 03:39 Extex Uhh hi 07:49 TovSvetov why using OpenBLAS through ffi causes minetest crashes? 07:49 TovSvetov in pure luajit everything works fine 07:50 TovSvetov (pure—without minetest) 09:29 sfan5 TovSvetov: "crashes" in what sense? do you get an error message? 09:30 TovSvetov sfan5: no, minetest just closes 09:30 sfan5 I suggest debugging that with gdb then 09:31 TovSvetov on Windows it can be tricky 09:35 sfan5 another debugging should also work but I'm familiar with gdb myself and it can be used on Windows too 09:36 sfan5 debugger* 12:45 bebebeko folks, i have a strange question, i'm added two entities, first one at position {x = 1, y = 1, z = 1} and the second placed at { x = 12, y = 12, z = 12 } is there way to draw a LINE between these entites? 12:52 calcul0n__ i'd create a line entity and play with orientation/scaling 12:52 calcul0n__ don't know if there's a better way 12:54 bebebeko calcul0n__: thank you 14:19 Andrey01 hello 14:20 Andrey01 is it possible to adjust altitude of the clouds extension? 14:22 sfan5 yes 14:24 Andrey01 and how? 15:15 bairradino I just installed minetest server usin this site instructions on ubuntu https://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server/Debian on a raspberry pi 15:16 bairradino the server is running and i changed the port on the minetest.conf to 30010 15:17 bairradino when i try to connect the load bar stops at media 0% and then gives this error: Access denied. Reason: Connection timed out. 15:17 bairradino any idea? i did use the save game/world from a client and used on the apropiate 15:19 sfan5 are you sure the port was changed correctly? 15:21 bairradino sfan5, yes, i checked at the log 15:22 bairradino i did find this error 15:22 bairradino 2020-07-22 15:14:49: ERROR[Server]: saveMapMeta: could not write /var/games/minetest-server/.minetest/worlds/Mundo do Mateus/map_meta.txt 15:22 bairradino 2020-07-22 15:14:49: ERROR[Server]: saveMapMeta: could not write /var/games/minetest-server/.minetest/worlds/Mundo do Mateus/map_meta.txt 15:23 bairradino could it be a permissions issue with the folder? since the original owner is different? 15:23 bairradino i used zip to try and avoid it... 15:31 bairradino I tried with a different user, a new one, it asked for the registration thing and after thet the connection timed out 15:31 sfan5 firewall? 15:31 bairradino it was running on my sons laptop from the gui client and i could connect. 15:32 bairradino does ubuntu has a firewall by default? 15:32 sfan5 don't think so 15:32 bairradino let me try to port scan my network 15:41 bairradino the last line of the log is like this Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.0:30000. 15:48 sfan5 then the port was not changed correctly 15:53 bairradino i just deleted the world and the server made a new one and i entered 15:54 bairradino so, the problem is with the save files somewhere 15:54 bairradino maybe the useres or permissions... 15:54 sfan5 ?? 15:55 sfan5 if your log says "listening on 0.0.0.0:30000." then it's is not listening on port 30010 and you should fix that first 15:57 bairradino i changed it to see if it was that the problrm 15:57 bairradino i connected with 30010 and same problem. 15:57 bairradino i am connected and playing on the server but not with the world save i had.... 15:59 bairradino something on the world save is not allowing me to connect to the server, we werent using passwords could it be that? i could edit the sqlite if needed 17:43 bairradino sfan5, I fixed it, i compiled it myself and i am running it from the compilation folder, 22:02 specing > rubenwardy | How can we (core devs) facilliate the development of a community-led Minetest Game? 22:03 specing I don't know the answer to that, but an admin complained to me that mods do not follow common configuration formats 22:03 specing Perhaps forcing mods to be configured the same way would be a great start? 22:23 specing minetest_game 6d2a897e1bb9e6af31f3b2b5e8e28cb1cf4892f7 breaks for me on 5.2.0 22:23 specing 2020-07-23 00:20:26: ERROR[Main]: ModError: Failed to load and run script from /home/specing/.minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/creative/init.lua: 22:23 specing 2020-07-23 00:20:26: ERROR[Main]: ...ing/.minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/creative/init.lua:35: attempt to call upvalue 'old_is_creative_enabled' (a nil value) 22:24 bairradino starting my stream in 5 minutes - Technical playing - Expanding my bonemeal farm http://twitch.tv/bairradino 22:24 specing cc: sfan5 22:24 sfan5 minetest_game 5.3.0 is not compatible with 5.2.0 22:26 specing Ok, I have a bunch of local checkouts for development purposes. checked out 5.2.0 now and it works 23:09 balirt he has a relaxing voice, I'm going to fall asleep to this 23:28 fedora117 Why does 5.3 break 5.2 compatibility? 23:29 fedora117 I'm on 5.2 right now and I can still use mods from 4.x series.... 23:29 fedora117 Nvm I'm on 5.1* 23:55 swift110 hey 23:55 swift110 lol