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IRC log for #minetest, 2020-06-26

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00:56 freelikegnu nvm I figured out the visual_size property :D
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01:45 oil_boi How does one create the max heardistance for footstep sounds?
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04:07 SoylentCow is there a node property to make walk faster or slower?
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08:20 oil_boi I just made redstone faster than mesecons oh my god
08:33 NetherEran oh boi :D
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10:08 oil_boi NetherEran, 7 1/2 hours oh god, those doors still need to be optimized because the 2 part thing is poop
10:08 oil_boi I think I can make the top node a fake air node that's conductive and make it so you can activate it at any position
10:10 oil_boi Door rewrite later, but now sleep
10:11 oil_boi Oh yeah NetherEran the repeater bug thing you reported in the forum is fixed as well
10:11 oil_boi You can now place levers and buttons on anything because I managed to develop a metadata method to sneak data through nodes which means I can make metal blocks conductive as well
10:14 oil_boi Also the update is incomplete so redstone might make something crash for now, until later
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10:52 appguru oil_boi: meta performance is not the best
10:52 appguru I'd try to use param2 if possible
10:53 appguru Or swap out blocks or something
11:24 NetherEran appguru: He's not online, you have to use !tell
11:26 appguru I'll go Discord then
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12:42 MinetestBot [git] script@mt -> minetest/minetest_game: Update translation templates 8855490 https://git.io/JfjXt (2020-06-26T12:41:30Z)
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17:27 Calinou Wuzzy: I don't think I can promote users so they can edit the main page, unfortunately
17:27 Calinou (I saw your post on the forum)
17:27 Calinou otherwise I'd gladly make you an admin
17:27 Wuzzy sigh
17:28 Calinou celeron55: can you do that, please?
17:29 Wuzzy doe you really need to go all they to admin only to edit main page?
17:29 Wuzzy i want to believe MediaWiki is a little bit more flexible than that
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17:31 celeron55 i think there are three groups currently and for some reason the main pages are for admins only
17:32 celeron55 looks like there's no groups suitable for this
17:32 celeron55 i'll have to add one
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17:40 Wuzzy okay...
17:42 Wuzzy celeron55: you're also Dev Wiki admin, right?
17:42 celeron55 of course
17:43 Krock imagine not being admin on the wiki you're running on your servers
17:43 Wuzzy hahaha
17:44 Wuzzy Did any user ever get banned from either of the wikis?
17:45 celeron55 nope, our strategy of barely making any accounts works to avoid that
17:46 Wuzzy that's a strategy? πŸ˜€
17:46 Krock it works, so yes.
17:46 Wuzzy i thought its because the CAPTCHA is broken πŸ˜›
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17:52 appguru the wikis should be graciously killed
17:52 appguru relevant information (mostly about engine internals, or TODOs etc) should be moved to Markdown files in the repo
17:56 Wuzzy haha
17:56 celeron55 i added the protected page editing permission to moderators and made wuzzy a moderator
17:56 Wuzzy ah thanks. both wikis?
17:56 celeron55 both
17:56 Wuzzy great!
17:56 Wuzzy a big issue in dev wiki is the huge duplication of lua_api.txt information πŸ™
17:57 Wuzzy i havent figured out how to fix it. its a really MASSIVE amount of function names that are just copied from lua_api.txt at one point, then never updated
17:57 Wuzzy unsurpsigingly, huge amounts of the Dev Wiki are now out of date
17:58 Wuzzy okay celeron55, any special rules/advice/guidelines/whatever i should know about MainPage?
17:58 celeron55 none
17:58 celeron55 make it good
17:58 Wuzzy ok
17:58 Wuzzy πŸ˜€
17:58 Wuzzy excelleng guideline πŸ™‚
17:59 celeron55 it's difficult to mess up a wiki too bad as it has this "history" thing
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18:02 Wuzzy indeedy
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18:36 oil_boi The dev wiki is helpful sometimes if you know what isn't correct
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18:44 Wuzzy i know, but this doesn't excuse the large number of highly misleading pages...
18:44 Wuzzy I am working on it right now
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18:56 texmex Maybe all references to the Lua API documentation could be dynamic somehow? Sections of lua_api.txt embedded instead of copied?
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19:46 appguru all sections of lua_api.txt should either be removed or automatically copied over by a script
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20:15 skyliner_369 is there a way to change the way leaves wave? from big slow waves to something smaller and quicker. also to change the size of the leaf blocks. from 1.5 blocks to 1 block.
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20:46 Krock skyliner_369: check the shader code. grep -r "WAVE" Β or so in client/
20:46 Krock nodes_shader/opengl_vertex.glsl:wavePos.x /= WATER_WAVE_LENGTH * 3;
20:47 skyliner_369 it was the mod, Ethereal, setting leaf visual scale to 1.4 instead of keeping it at 1.
20:47 Krock oh. "leaves" not "waves"
20:49 skyliner_369 the waves of leaves can be altered from slow, large, and gradual to quick and tight later. right now, I'm gonna go ahead and pop over to forums and message TenPlus1
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21:58 Wuzzy Ooff. OK, for today my wiki editing spree comes to an end...
21:59 Wuzzy I have touched a lot of pages including the Main Pages on both wikis to get rid of bad links, outdated descriptions, and the like
21:59 Wuzzy esp. the Dev Wiki has those badly outdated pages that replicate lua_api.txt
21:59 Wuzzy I didn't remove those pages, but at least i tried my best to remove most links that point to them
22:02 Wuzzy Please have a look πŸ™‚
22:03 appguru Wuzzy: if possible, I'd add some kind of "warning banner": "this modding API related-post may be outdated, the official documentation can be found at [link lua_api.txt]"
22:04 Wuzzy i did for *some* pages
22:04 Wuzzy but the thing is, there are 100s of such pages.
22:04 Wuzzy and i Β dont have time or willpower to add it by hand or write a script
22:18 appguru understandable
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