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00:59 frabbit can i disable that players can use the debug info and other stuff?
01:01 frabbit espacially i just want to disable pos, yaw and pointed the rest doesnt matter
01:03 frabbit i want to force players to use a compass, their sense for orientation and knowledge about nodes to navigate throught the world
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02:07 SoylentCow that's an interesting idea, but from what i understand, this is not possibe with the current client
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03:16 skyliner_369 Why is it that nvidia refuses to open up any details about their gpu but at the same time has 2 unpaid interns as the sole staff working on the linux GPU drivers?
03:33 blaise unpaid?!
03:33 blaise what a bunch of cock suckers
03:34 blaise skyliner_369: I believe they stole the tech from aliens and if they opened their spec then they would be exposed
03:34 blaise and then the gov, and the aliens would be after them
03:35 skyliner_369 Hardy har har
03:35 blaise I'm not joking
03:35 blaise you might think it's a shitty joke, but in my heart, I truely believe it
03:35 blaise why else wouldn't they do it,, everyone else did
03:36 blaise I mean if they're such bad asses then it wouldn't matter because they're the only ones that could design and build it, right?
03:36 skyliner_369 or maybe they just wanna stomp on AMD as much as they can to try and stay in the lead.
03:36 blaise beyond that, MAYBE they stole the tech from both amd and intell and THAT is why they refuse to open their spec
03:37 skyliner_369 it's highly possible
03:37 blaise becuase if the truth came out they would have absolutly nothing
03:37 blaise in my honest opinion they don't got shit anyway
03:38 blaise fuckin 2080 super is kinda shit
03:38 blaise amd is about to leave em in the dust too
03:38 blaise intell might just surpass them
03:40 skyliner_369 once their IPs run out, and they stop forcing extreme planned obsolescence. Honestly? I kinda feel GPU technology is actually pretty far behind.
03:50 blaise it is.. it's a damn shame
03:51 blaise we need like 5 or 6 more brands to really shake up the industry and make it a good market again
03:51 blaise back in the 90's there where boat loads of companies producing video cards
03:52 blaise and video card chips!
03:52 blaise now we aint got shit
03:52 blaise same with the cpu market
03:52 blaise it's completely hosed
03:52 skyliner_369 Honestly? one of intel's GPU ideas seemed like it could actually be a bit of a winner. just shovel cores onto a piece of silicone.
03:53 skyliner_369 least AMD is coming back and forcing intel to innovate.
03:53 blaise yeah, but it's a half assed effort..
03:53 blaise intel couldn't give two shits about the pc market..
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03:54 skyliner_369 which means only red for PCs soon to come
03:54 Quiark well ... macs are going to be ARM ..
03:54 Quiark that's competition
03:55 blaise with the way ARM and RiSK5 is looking, the x86-* future is looking bleak
03:55 blaise mac isn't competition
03:55 skyliner_369 honestly x86 dying seems a good thing to me
03:56 blaise back in the 80's and early 90's apple was serious
03:56 blaise now it's a nitche poser market for uppitty bs'ers that don't understand that they paid way too much money for shit on a pogo stick.
03:58 blaise their hw is litterally marketed anywhere from $10-15k higher than the SAME EXACT HARDWARE that just doesn't run iOS
03:58 skyliner_369 in a "Well-built aluminum case" like... if you're gonna put some high-end CPU in a machine, make sure the machine can even use that CPU.
03:58 blaise lol
03:59 blaise I don't even care about a case
03:59 skyliner_369 it's like they feel that cooling is for plebs
03:59 blaise I'll bolt that thing to a wooden box, fuck it.
04:00 blaise or to the wall, and put plexi over it
04:00 blaise or buid it IN to a desk, like any sane person
04:00 skyliner_369 inside a desk, with a nice glass top
04:00 skyliner_369 honestly Linus's desk PC looks pretty awesome
04:01 skyliner_369 Linus Sebastian
04:02 blaise yeah, I like the one Greg Salazar made for his wife
04:03 blaise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHYeWWzfeBQ
04:03 blaise but honestly, if I were going to do it I would go homemade
04:04 blaise I love building furnature
04:04 blaise a nice hardwood with a glass panel that has active matrix display built into it..
04:05 blaise that way you can either make it clear, make it glow, or put what ever you want on it..
04:05 blaise and you can custom design your cooling how ever you like
04:05 skyliner_369 a fun thing to do might be converting an irreparable (internally) commodore PET to a nice modern thing.
04:06 blaise sleeper pc's are fun...
04:06 skyliner_369 the trouble would be finding CRTs of the right size.
04:08 skyliner_369 a flat-panel of that size wouldn't be easy to find at all
04:13 blaise flat panels arent that great anyway
04:13 blaise modern displays can't even come close to keeping up with real fast scan video feed
04:14 skyliner_369 CRTs strained my eyes but if I turned the refresh up, that tended to help a ton.
04:16 blaise I had a real nice crt that was very easy on the eyes.. 43.7"
04:16 blaise I paid a chunk for it though
04:16 blaise the cheap ones are terrible on your eyes
04:20 skyliner_369 Dell made pretty decent CRTs, though, schools almost never had workable display settings... refresh of... I've seen as low as 25 hz. (That literally churned my stomach) I'd crank up the refresh rate to max if I could and then set resolution to max for that refresh. I kinda miss 120hz. though anything able to refresh above 60 hz seems to be ONLY 4k
04:21 skyliner_369 or a CRT
04:29 blaise isn't that what most movies are at?
04:30 blaise like 27Hz ?
04:31 blaise my optiquest could push insane refresh rates
04:31 blaise but I spent like 8k on that thing
04:32 blaise dpi or dpp on that thing was insane
04:32 swift110 hmm
04:32 blaise MUCH better picture than todays shit
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05:07 oil_boi direct3d9 completely crashes the game :(
05:07 oil_boi But direct3d8 doesn't hm
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13:48 frabbit is there a way to shrink the craft grid in player inventory?
13:49 NetherEran_ yes, you can change the formspec and the corresponding inventory list
13:53 NetherEran_ in sfinv the grid is defined in init.lua, line 12, the last two numbers specify the size
13:53 frabbit NetherEran_: thank u! =) will have a look at it.
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13:55 NetherEran_ yw, to change the inventory list you can do player:get_inventory():set_size("craft", size) in an on_joinplayer
13:56 frabbit and with the last one i can change the number of inventory slots?
13:56 NetherEran_ last one is internal, first one is visually in the inventory
13:57 frabbit internal?
13:58 frabbit cool 2x2 craftgrid works
13:58 NetherEran_ if you only do the first one a hacked client could probably still use the 3x3 grid
13:59 NetherEran_ actually doing only the last one might work, not sure though
13:59 frabbit i see
14:00 frabbit but i wonder if that 2x2 cg really make sense, i mean sure now i could add a workbench and use mc mechanic, but the thing i prefer would be that some things need a workbench to be crafted
14:02 frabbit i mean doesnt make sense in minecraft at all, that u can build a huge workbench whereever u are, but stick a stick into some stone to make an axe for example is not possible without workbench
14:04 frabbit it would make sense when u would need another tool too for that, to first shape the stone for the axe and a knife to carve the stick for it
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14:07 NetherEran_ terrafirmacraft has a mechanic where you can carry certain things only in a special inventory slot on your back.
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14:20 Wilker hello
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14:20 MinetestBot Miniontoby: Jun-13 16:54 UTC <BuckarooBanzai> rtfm please: the readme is here: https://github.com/minetest-monitoring/monitoring/blob/master/README.md and that what you are looking for is probably this: https://github.com/minetest-monitoring/monitoring/blob/master/monitoring/doc/standalone.md
14:20 Miniontoby hey
14:21 Miniontoby hmm
14:21 Miniontoby ok
14:21 Miniontoby yeah
14:21 Miniontoby !tell BuckarooBanzai5 I got it working and the .json not but I made it working and btw better
14:21 MinetestBot Miniontoby: yeah, sure, whatever
14:25 frabbit NetherEran_: interessting
14:25 frabbit i gtg cya soon =)
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17:59 MinetestBot [git] oilboi -> minetest/minetest: Fix typo (#10043) a1b444b https://git.io/JfdzM (2020-06-17T17:59:02Z)
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18:20 frabbit ive set "disable_fire = false" in minetest.conf and with flint and steel i can burn down tree trunks, but not with torches, why?
18:27 calcul0n developers choice i guess
18:28 calcul0n it would quickly be boring to burn a whole biome each time you place a torch :)
18:28 frabbit calcul0n: ok and how to enable that again?
18:28 Krock torches only ignite TNT
18:28 frabbit it was possibel once i remember
18:29 frabbit *possible
18:29 calcul0n maybe with a mod then? i've never seen that i think
18:29 Krock must be a mod. since 0.4.7 vanilla Minetest did not have any torches that ignited wood
18:29 frabbit nah there must be some group or something
18:29 Krock probably neither before, but can't tell from first person
18:29 frabbit hmm...
18:29 frabbit a fire mod then
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18:32 frabbit any clue what mod that could be?
18:33 frabbit i think i could do it in mineclone too, ive burned down a forest there once, but im not sure if i did it with torches...
18:35 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=24935
18:35 rubenwardy !title
18:35 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Minetest 5.3.0 release candidate 1 - Minetest Forums
18:36 sfan5 cool
18:36 sfan5 thanks for doing that
18:37 Krock nice.
18:39 frabbit cant be that i cant find anything... o_0
18:40 Krock perhaps you did it using lava?
18:42 frabbit Krock: no
18:42 frabbit placing torches on tree were enough im sure
18:42 frabbit 100%
18:43 Krock (X) Doubt
18:43 frabbit that was cool, because u had to be very careful with open fire, good mechanic for children to learn how to handle it, without making the same experience by burning down the flat
18:43 frabbit Krock: i dont care if u doubt or not
18:45 frabbit ok lets do it the reverse way: is it written in the torches.lua that torches cant burn things?
18:45 frabbit if so then maybe other torches mods do not disable that, cause i also tried some of them in the past
18:48 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/fire/init.lua#L270-L283
18:48 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/e8a7e75319847f50b495bbc5316f1d536e58b623/mods/default/torch.lua#L38
18:48 Krock "missing" igniter group. It cannot create flames
18:49 Krock Though mods can modify that
18:49 frabbit ah fck github that doesnt work without js -.-
18:49 Krock then replace "blob" by "raw"
18:49 frabbit but thx
18:50 frabbit im checking real torches atm, i remember that i have that one too
18:53 frabbit Krock: ok what does that mean?
18:53 frabbit not blob pattern in both luas
18:53 frabbit *no
18:54 Krock frabbit: the URl
18:54 frabbit ah ok
18:54 Krock GitHub will redirect you to the plaintext version
18:55 frabbit nah i mean that u cant use that specific line in url without js
18:55 frabbit #L270-L283
18:55 frabbit what is totally stupid
18:56 frabbit but i think that was neede even befoe Micro$oft annex it
18:56 frabbit *needed - *before
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18:58 frabbit i will test group:igniter
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19:03 frabbit works nicely! =)
19:03 frabbit thx again Krock
19:07 Krock !next
19:07 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
19:07 frabbit oh...
19:07 frabbit the server burned down...
19:07 frabbit Krock: lol
19:08 frabbit Krock can u hep me please with my burned down world mister?
19:08 frabbit ;)
19:08 Krock sudo rm -rf /*  should fix all your issues
19:08 frabbit =o thats an evil joke
19:09 Krock or   sudo resize2fs 0G /dev/sda1
19:09 Krock though that might not work because the partition is still mounted
19:09 frabbit nah to be sure all problems are really gon run: dd if=/dev/urandon of=/dev/sda
19:09 frabbit *gone
19:09 Krock urandon
19:09 frabbit *m
19:09 frabbit =P
19:10 frabbit seems like marram grass is in bloom
19:11 frabbit all this orange-red
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20:10 MinetestBot BuckarooBanzai5: Jun-17 14:21 UTC <Miniontoby> I got it working and the .json not but I made it working and btw better
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20:47 Zughy uhm, if I have a string like "32_something2idk40" and I want to retrieve only what comes before the undescore, how can I do in Lua? Like, %d is not enough and %d+ should return 32240
20:50 sfan5 :match("%d+") works but you can also use :match("(%d+)_") if you want to explicit about the _
20:53 Zughy The latter is what I was looking for, I had no idea I could do that. Ty sfan
20:54 sfan5 https://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1
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